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CeroFrio996 said:
How juvenile. My fiance shared her work experiences and feelings about certain clientele. I've made anecdotal observations based on those stories.
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Oh dear. I think you may have married a feminist. It's likely the men respond poorly to being told to shut up and listen, stop manspreading and tuck their cock and balls between their legs (presumably the offence surprises her as you take it far better).
 
hariseldon said:
Oh dear. I think you may have married a feminist. It's likely the men respond poorly to being told to shut up and listen, stop manspreading and tuck their cock and balls between their legs (presumably the offence surprises her as you take it far better).
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A.) I don't think you understand what a fiance is. I haven't married her yet.

B.) My fiance is a classical liberal raised in a chritian household. Her parents voted for Trump and hated Clinton. I like them both very much, and I'm excited for them to be my in-laws.

C.) You are making massive assumptions about who my fiance is, and as is customary with wild assumptions, you are very wrong. She's a timid person. Yelling and telling people to shut up and listen is what I wish she would do.
 
LegendOfKage said:
What would you say was the point of those anecdotes, then?
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To show that everyone has their experiences that shape their personal biases. Assuming that "man hate" is some kind of irrational phobia ignores entirely that there are still real issues, even if I don't believe most feminists are really tackling core problems. That there is really what I dislike about the feminist movement. It has no ability to pick it's battles and wants to fight more than it wishes to prove itself

LegendOfKage said:
My mistake to suggest that you personally were doing so. The point was, as it would seem to me, you were defending someone who was doing so.
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Hm, that's fair.

LegendOfKage said:
You should perhaps consider the argument that you're making seems to suggest "negative feelings about a particular gender are okay, as long as they're not too hateful, and they're based on experience."

I don't know you or your fiance, so I'm in no position to judge from the outside. Maybe the context was different than what I'm gathering from what you said. And even if she's a bit sexist, it's not like that aspect defines her as a person.

My big thing is double standards. Especially if you'd have no issue with a male making similarly slight generalizations of women based on his experiences. But that's something that I really shouldn't assume either way. That's something to consider and decide for yourself.

I remember a time when a co-worker was generalizing women, and rather than harshly confronting him about it, I just reminded him that just because he'd be hurt before, it doesn't mean all women are like that. And I reminded him that a lot of women get hurt and think the same of men, and that's not good either. Him finding some sort of comfort in speaking negatively about "women" as a whole would ultimately hurt him a lot more than it could ever help, so without being judgmental I said something about it.
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I'm not really OK with it either way, but it's not like it comes from nowhere. It's less that it's OK but rather there's an origin to those feelings that has been established and should be discussed rather than being dismissed as irrational women being irrational or something.
 
CeroFrio996 said:
You sound like someone who thinks they can bully someone into having the "right" opinion, which is odd because it never seems to work.
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Why are you trying to be sincere to obvious trolls who wont read past three words in anything you've written? its laudable that you try, but ultimately fruitless.

The tepid response of "Hey, look there are issues with men and women that need to be addressed" getting dog piled because it shows a modicum of self awareness and reflection is very telling in how you'll be received further.
 
TheJoe said:
Why are you trying to be sincere to obvious trolls who wont read past three words in anything you've written? its laudable that you try, but ultimately fruitless.

The tepid response of "Hey, look there are issues with men and women that need to be addressed" getting dog piled because it shows a modicum of self awareness and reflection is very telling in how you'll be received further.
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It doesn't cost me much time or effort to type out a response. Words are free.

It's funny too because it's not like I'm even on the man hate bandwagon or something. I believe in helping men. Helping them in school as children, helping their mental health... but I don't think we need to insinuate that women are irrational/ crazy bitches or something. I've hardly been here, what, a week? and apparently I'm already stirring up trouble with what I'd consider very moderate replies and being open to (valid) critism. I'm not perfect, and I enjoy learning from people like LegendOfKage LegendOfKage even if I doubt I'd agree with him all the time.
 
CeroFrio996 said:
You sound like someone who thinks they can bully someone into having the "right" opinion, which is odd because it never seems to work.
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I don't want you to change your opinion. I want you to keep being a weasel so I can keep pointing and laughing.

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CeroFrio996 said:
It doesn't cost me much time or effort to type out a response. Words are free.

It's funny too because it's not like I'm even on the man hate bandwagon or something. I believe in helping men. Helping them in school as children, helping their mental health... but I don't think we need to insinuate that women are irrational/ crazy bitches or something. I've hardly been here, what, a week? and apparently I'm already stirring up trouble with what I'd consider very moderate replies and being open to (valid) critism. I'm not perfect, and I enjoy learning from people like LegendOfKage LegendOfKage even if I doubt I'd agree with him all the time.
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It kinda makes you wonder at times....who's worse at over reaction? When women make a slight criticism at men when men do something, or the faceless void of crying man children who believe their very masculinity is being attacked when asked "Hey can you scoot over?" "EXCUSE ME MAMM, MY BALLS ARE SITTING HERE!"
 
TheJoe said:
Why are you trying to be sincere to obvious trolls who wont read past three words in anything you've written? its laudable that you try, but ultimately fruitless.

The tepid response of "Hey, look there are issues with men and women that need to be addressed" getting dog piled because it shows a modicum of self awareness and reflection is very telling in how you'll be received further.
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Watch out lads, the male feminists are invading!
 
TheJoe said:
It kinda makes you wonder at times....who's worse at over reaction? When women make a slight criticism at men when men do something, or the faceless void of crying man children who believe their very masculinity is being attacked when asked "Hey can you scoot over?" "EXCUSE ME MAMM, MY BALLS ARE SITTING HERE!"
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The fuck are you even talking about
 
TheJoe said:
It kinda makes you wonder at times....who's worse at over reaction? When women make a slight criticism at men when men do something, or the faceless void of crying man children who believe their very masculinity is being attacked when asked "Hey can you scoot over?" "EXCUSE ME MAMM, MY BALLS ARE SITTING HERE!"
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There's absolutely a flip side to that kind of situation too. Sometimes people are rude. It'd be nice if we could teach people to behave more civilly when there is a conflict.

matt404au said:
He's trying to bait us into calling him a cuck.
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I wasn't aware you needed baiting to use that totally meaningless word?
 
CeroFrio996 said:
There's absolutely a flip side to that kind of situation too. Sometimes people are rude. It'd be nice if we could teach people to behave more civilly when there is a conflict.



I wasn't aware you needed baiting to use that totally meaningless word?
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Your fake civility is a game you play so that you can continue pushing your ideology unabated and I won't play according to your rules. Why should I show you any respect when you're parroting the same feminist talking points I've seen and dismissed a thousand times before? Do you show any respect to a Jehovah's Witness who shows up at your door to tell you that you're living your life wrong and that his religion is your only path to salvation?
 
Hey Tyler it's TheJoe, just borrowing my bully's account real quick (but you can delete it, he doesn't care). Firstly, cute thing you did there with my ban message. Secondly, just for clarification are you seriously okay with the way NeoGaf is right now? There will be an Incel Community | OT thread by the end of the year (if there isn't one already). Is the site's moral grotesqueity supposed to be your revenge against the "sjw" who scorned you? Good grief. No offense but be honest, if you heard of someone else doing that, wouldn't you think that it's the most pathetic and predicatble thing ever?

As a fellow male feminist, if you're still manspreading in your Aeron (ugh, so patriarchal), I strongly urge you to consider buying one of these:


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Zog said:
Men can't do anything without complaints, not even sit down. Actually, I shouldn't have even responded because now I may be accused of 'Mansplaining'. Men can't explain something either, without complaints.
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Goes back to that old saying, "all women do is complain", eh?
 
matt404au said:
Your fake civility is a game you play so that you can continue pushing your ideology unabated and I won't play according to your rules. Why should I show you any respect when you're parroting the same feminist talking points I've seen and dismissed a thousand times before? Do you show any respect to a Jehovah's Witness who shows up at your door to tell you that you're living your life wrong and that his religion is your only path to salvation?
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So would you rather I be fake civil or really nasty, like you? I'm not being disingenuous simply because you make that assertion.

DeepEnigma said:
Goes back to that old saying, "all women do is complain", eh?
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"it's okay when I do it"

So it's fine to generalize women?
 
CeroFrio996 said:
Those seem to be the only two you gave, so why don't you tell me?
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I didn't give you any options. All I said was that your civility is fake and it's like a game to you where you can play the victim and claim victory if someone breaks your personal ruleset. Fuck that.
 
CeroFrio996 said:
I'm not really OK with it either way, but it's not like it comes from nowhere. It's less that it's OK but rather there's an origin to those feelings that has been established and should be discussed rather than being dismissed as irrational women being irrational or something.
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I think that's fair. I would assume most prejudice doesn't come from nowhere, though. Pre-judgement has to start from somewhere.

CeroFrio996 said:
I'm not perfect, and I enjoy learning from people like @LegendOfKage even if I doubt I'd agree with him all the time.
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Thanks, and I appreciate you keeping it respectful as well.

TheJoe said:
or the faceless void of crying man children who believe their very masculinity is being attacked when asked "Hey can you scoot over?"
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"Hey can you scoot over" would be the sensible way of dealing with this "issue." This is a thread about a woman who designed a chair that forces men to sit with their legs together. A single chair, mind you, not some sort of divided bench, which is the only way sitting with your legs apart would ever be a problem requiring a polite request to sit differently to accommodate others in the first place.

That's far past sensible.
 
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DeepEnigma said:
Goes back to that old saying, "all women do is complain", eh?
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...and you can't criticize women, that's misogyny.

CeroFrio996 said:
So would you rather I be fake civil or really nasty, like you? I'm not being disingenuous simply because you make that assertion.


"it's okay when I do it"

So it's fine to generalize women?
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If it's a positive generalization, yes but not the other way around.
 
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LegendOfKage said:
I think that's fair. I would assume most prejudice doesn't come from nowhere, though. Pre-judgement has to start from somewhere.
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I mean that's the logical assumption, but I feel like some people are just of the mindset that women are attacking them for no reason at all. Certainly if you are just a normal dude trying to sit comfortably on a subway car and you get screamed at it might seem that way... but it also might be that the person on the other end of that screaming has been harassed by men who refuse to respect her personal space. Doesn't make screaming at someone right, but trying to see that angle makes those type easier to handle and talk to in my experience.

LegendOfKage said:
Thanks, and I appreciate you keeping it respectful as well.
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I'm not of the mindset that assuming I'm right means I am. There are a lot of people out there, each with different perspectives and ideas. I want to hear those perspectives and try to gauge them objectively as much as possible.

LegendOfKage said:
"Hey can you scoot over" would be the sensible way of dealing with this "issue." This is a thread about a woman who designed a chair that forces men to sit with their legs together. A single chair, mind you, not some sort of divided bench, which is the only way sitting with your legs apart would ever be a problem requiring a polite request to sit differently to accommodate others in the first place.

That's far past sensible.
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Yes, this chair is silly. No one needed this and it really serves no real function. It's a weird symbolism that adds nothing and merely stokes the fires of anti-sjw types.
 
CeroFrio996 said:
but it also might be that the person on the other end of that screaming has been harassed by men who refuse to respect her personal space. Doesn't make screaming at someone right, but trying to see that angle makes those type easier to handle and talk to in my experience.
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You have a lot of experience talking to screaming women on public transport?
 
I severely disagree with TheJoe and pretty much all cu.. male feminits but he wasn't telling people to eat a dick or anything. He shouldn't have been banned and I wanted more things to laugh at.
 
Zog said:
...because you were asked a specific question.
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I guess?

Cunth said:
You have a lot of experience talking to screaming women on public transport?
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My response was just that I've had a more general experience dealing with loud unhappy people. Still don't understand why the specifics matter though. Should my method of empathsizing with someone so that I can deescalate change because the scenario changed?
 
CeroFrio996 said:
Certainly if you are just a normal dude trying to sit comfortably on a subway car and you get screamed at it might seem that way... but it also might be that the person on the other end of that screaming has been harassed by men who refuse to respect her personal space. Doesn't make screaming at someone right, but trying to see that angle makes those type easier to handle and talk to in my experience.
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When men lose their temper with women, people don't care to understand why. Ever notice that?
 
Zog said:
When men lose their temper with women, people don't care to understand why. Ever notice that?
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Mmmm, it depends on the situation. Certainly the tendency is to protect the woman yes. But does that mean that women are advantaged or that women have historically had to deal with much violence at the hands of bigger, stronger men?

But ultimately I'm not nearly as concerned with other people as I am myself and how I can approach a conflict.
 
CeroFrio996 said:
Mmmm, it depends on the situation. Certainly the tendency is to protect the woman yes. But does that mean that women are advantaged or that women have historically had to deal with much violence at the hands of bigger, stronger men?

But ultimately I'm not nearly as concerned with other people as I am myself and how I can approach a conflict.
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The cognitive dissonance is almost tangible.
 
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