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[Raist]

Is there a link that lists the TV sets compatible with the Full RGB setting through HDMI ? I have my PS3 connected to a 50" Sony SXRD and I was wondering if i can take advantadge of that setting.

Just try

If you set it to full rgb and can't see anything in dark levels, like in RFoM, then your TV doesn't support full rgb.

There was also a post in the FW 1.80 thread with links to images, to set lighting and contrast correctly and easily determine whether your TV is compatible or not.

 

[The Faceless Master]

hope this fixes the VSHG

This isn't a big deal.

it isn't if you're not affected, and it's a huge deal if you are.

 

[Arsenic]

I didnt even know that it was a bug within 1.80 that killed my WLAN connection for a few seconds....I thought it was just my new router that had problems. I guess im disabling media server connection until this is fixed. thank god for the fix

 

[maximum360]

Still no DTSMA.

 

[antiloop]

I didnt even know that it was a bug within 1.80 that killed my WLAN connection for a few seconds....I thought it was just my new router that had problems. I guess im disabling media server connection until this is fixed. thank god for the fix

Seems like some people are unaffected. It may be the routers that can't take the stress that this new feature puts on them.

 

[Core407]

This isn't a big deal.

So wrong.

 

[Kinan]

Actually I just recalled that Korean launch is this weekend (16th), so I guess they need to patch in that IPTV stuff anyway. I guess they used the possibility and added some bug fixing stuff as well.

 

[I3rand0]

Hope they fix it so I can use my VS High Grade again.

 

[FightyF]

I hope this fixes my blu tooth headset, since 1.8 it connects and then when I go to game it disconnects for no reason

Yup, and we have the same headsets as well, IIRC.

This is great news!

Hopefully comes at the same time, or a bit before the new Resistance maps!

 

[lunlunqq]

1.81 is out. im download it now. 49%

 

[rc213]

Hoping for a headset fix here as well.

 

[Raistlin]

It's odd, though, that we're getting this - the bugs aren't terribly serious, and normally Sony tends to fix those silently in the hitherto monthly firmware update.

That isn't really true.

Sony is slow for 'feature' upgrades, but is generally quite fast to fix actual 'bugs' with the features they previously added.

 

[Evlar]

Got it downloaded and installed. It fixes the Full RGB Color reset bug, at least when returning to the XMB from a Blu-Ray disc.

 

[Kinan]

Sony hinted at official blog that except HDMI fix, also PS2 compatibility was addressed. Can anyone (of PAL users, obviously) check some titles that were not working before the update?

 

[Trevelyon]

MGS3
MGS2
Z.O.E
Z.O.E II
Xenosaga
FFX
FFXII
Xenosaga II
Dragon Quest VII
God of War II

Are now working.

 

[spwolf]

gotta love how Sony is working hard to please

 

[B-Ri]

has sony done any work witht he PSone FF collections? I just got all 3 collections and now im realizing it doesnt seem compadibility on them has improved any at all, and problems were obviously present on the PS2 with them.

Good thing my trusty PSone still works.

 

[PuppetSlave]

Well, God of war II worked for me before this update atleast. Have not tried the others you listed.

 

[MadFuzzy]

Looks like the only official fixes are for the full range RGB setting, improved stability for PS2 online games and the usual PS1 and PS2 backwards compatibility fixes: http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/

 

[Goldrusher]

Where are our region-free dvds & PS2 games damnit ?

 

[EGM92]

Where are our region-free dvds & PS2 games damnit ?

Not going to happen, EVER.

 

[llTll]

Where are our region-free dvds & PS2 games damnit ?

keep dreaming

 

[gofreak]

Got it downloaded and installed. It fixes the Full RGB Color reset bug, at least when returning to the XMB from a Blu-Ray disc.

Can you check if it fixes the reset when you turn the system off? Mine resets it when you reset the system, annoyingly..

Where are our region-free dvds & PS2 games damnit ?

I'm not one to usually say "never", but if I ever did it would be here..

 

[Adama]

It's out.

 

[Yixian]

Sweet mother of god. 8 minutes downloading and I'm only at 1%.

WTF SONY?!

 

[Goldrusher]

keep dreaming

Still isn't fair Europeans get NTSC + PAL, while Japanese and Americans only get NTSC. Both region 2.
There's not a single reason to region-lock PS2 games and DVD anyway.

Anyway, crappy update. Nothing changes for me.

 

[TTP]

Can you check if it fixes the reset when you turn the system off? Mine resets it when you reset the system, annoyingly..

Just checked. It stays Full *for real* this time

Fixed 100%

 

[Yixian]

Still isn't fair Europeans and Hong Kongers get NTSC + PAL, while Japanese and Americans only get NTSC.
There's not a single reason to region-lock PS2 games and DVD.

Anyway, crappy update. Nothing changes for me.

I'm just surprised, and pretty disappointed, that there hasn't been a hack to fix this yet. I mean, it shouldn't be particularly hard to do, right?

The PS3 homebrew scene seems to have floated like a lead balloon.

 

[nofi]

There's not a single reason to region-lock PS2 games and DVD anyway.

Of course there is.

 

[gofreak]

Still isn't fair Europeans get NTSC + PAL, while Japanese and Americans only get NTSC. Both region 2.

PAL PS3s play NTSC + PAL DVDs or NTSC + PAL PS2/PS1 games, or both? Hmm?

There's not a single reason to region-lock PS2 games and DVD anyway.

There is - they're legally bound to by their licensing agreements with third parties. That was part of the deal. It was not part of the deal with PS3 games, but PS3 licensing agreements don't change the rules for existing PS2 and PS1 licensing agreements. In order to change this for PS2/PS1 games they'd have to renegotiate all those agreements, and that's not going to happen..

 

[vdo]

Where are our region-free dvds & PS2 games damnit ?

Not going to happen, EVER.

keep dreaming

Does anyone think that publishers would ever offer PS2 games released as downloadable from PSN and be able to make them region free there? I am thinking that maybe when releasing on PSN, the legalities of distribution would be drawn up fresh and they could make them worldwide from the start.

I just don't understand why publishers don't want to remove the regional restrictions and make more money. It seems like it would be free money with no distribution costs if they did it on PSN. I can't see why 3rd party publishers would not jump on being able to milk more money out of another region buying their game on PSN with little effort on their part since so many PS2 games work with the backwards compatibility.

 

[donkey show]

I'm just surprised, and pretty disappointed, that there hasn't been a hack to fix this yet. I mean, it shouldn't be particularly hard to do, right?

The PS3 homebrew scene seems to have floated like a lead balloon.

It's a lot more complicated than it seems, but it's possible...

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/4/499497

I'd never do it though. Too much hassle.

 

[Pristine_Condition]

Downloading now. Hope this fixes my occasional disconnections I've been getting with Resistance on the wireless lately (since the last update).

 

[Goldrusher]

PAL PS3s play NTSC + PAL DVDs or NTSC + PAL PS2/PS1 games, or both? Hmm?

DVD.

Japan = region 2 & 0 NTSC
Europe = region 2 & 0 NTSC + region 2 & 0 PAL

There is - they're legally bound to by their licensing agreements with third parties. That was part of the deal. It was not part of the deal with PS3 games, but PS3 licensing agreements don't change the rules for existing PS2 and PS1 licensing agreements. In order to change this for PS2/PS1 games they'd have to renegotiate all those agreements, and that's not going to happen..

I know there are agreements, but those are old and dated. And they were for use with PSone and or PS2. Make new agreements. PS3 agreements.
If for example Rockstar or Konami agree that all of their games can be played on any console...add some kind of "game code check" to the firmware and voila...load a Gran Turismo and won't work. Load a GTA or Metal Gear Solid and it will.

 

[M3wThr33]

Does anyone think that publishers would ever offer PS2 games released as downloadable from PSN and be able to make them region free there? I am thinking that maybe when releasing on PSN, the legalities of distribution would be drawn up fresh and they could make them worldwide from the start.

I just don't understand why publishers don't want to remove the regional restrictions and make more money. It seems like it would be free money with no distribution costs if they did it on PSN. I can't see why 3rd party publishers would not jump on being able to milk more money out of another region buying their game on PSN with little effort on their part since so many PS2 games work with the backwards compatibility.

Usually the publishers should be quite open to it. Except for:

1. Competiting with local branch. Buying from Ubisoft in USA doesn't give a dime to the Ubisoft in Europe. (Well, to a large degree)
2. Licensed properties like music are more cumbersome to get for international licenses.
3. Legal copyright reasons surrounding the technology or naming.

However, given all of this, it doesn't seem to have ever stopped handheld games. I would seriously pay money to make my PS3 region-free.

 

[vdo]

Usually the publishers should be quite open to it. Except for:

1. Competiting with local branch. Buying from Ubisoft in USA doesn't give a dime to the Ubisoft in Europe. (Well, to a large degree)
2. Licensed properties like music are more cumbersome to get for international licenses.
3. Legal copyright reasons surrounding the technology or naming.

However, given all of this, it doesn't seem to have ever stopped handheld games. I would seriously pay money to make my PS3 region-free.

OK, thanks, with what you listed above it seems it is much more complicated (and therefore expensive) to do than I thought.

But yeah, I have never even considered modding a console but region free PS2 playability is the one thing that I want and it looks like it will remain in the realm of mods. Oh, well.

 

[M3wThr33]

But that's the reason a lot of people were considering getting a Japanese PS3. Since PS3 games are all region free and the few Blu-Ray discs that are region coded share a region (A) between Japan and the USA, keeping the PS2 meant that you could play any Japanese PS title and still play your PS2 games.
However, some games, like Resistance, have differences when running on a Japanese console.

 

[jakeellis01]

The only PAL PS2 title known to be improved by network stability changes in Fw 1.81 is 'Phantasy Star Universe' by Sega

 

[gofreak]

Just checked. It stays Full *for real* this time

Fixed 100%

So it never resets? That's a relief...it was tiring setting that back to full so often.

 

[Lain]

I'm not one to usually say "never", but if I ever did it would be here..

Never from Sony, but maybe some custom firmware will unlock that... or at least I hope.

 

[disc]

Still isn't fair Europeans get NTSC + PAL, while Japanese and Americans only get NTSC. Both region 2.
There's not a single reason to region-lock PS2 games and DVD anyway.

Anyway, crappy update. Nothing changes for me.

They are apparently working on NTSC+PAL for Japanese PS3s.

 

[TTP]

So it never resets?

Never

 

[M3wThr33]

So it never resets? That's a relief...it was tiring setting that back to full so often.

I bet if you format the PS3 it would reset it.

 

[TheGuardian]

DVD.

Japan = region 2 & 0 NTSC
Europe = region 2 & 0 NTSC + region 2 & 0 PAL

NTSC DVDs are either region 1 (which PAL PS3 can't read) or region 0 (which every PS3 can read)

 

[Goldrusher]

NTSC DVDs are either region 1 (which PAL PS3 can't read) or region 0 (which every PS3 can read)

Japan has region 2 NTSC. Some call it NTSC-J, but most dvd's just have the region 2 logo, with NTSC written next to it.

 

[Manp]

just finished updating. i may be wrong but the update process seems a lot faster than usual.

 

[TheGuardian]

You're right, my mistake. Japan DVDs are region 2. They switched to region 1 for blu-ray.

From wikipedia:

Region 1 - Bermuda, Canada, the Cayman Islands, United States and U.S. territories

Region 2 - The Middle East, Western Europe, Central Europe, Egypt, French overseas territories, Greenland, Japan, Lesotho, South Africa and Swaziland

 

[ram]

Does anyone think that publishers would ever offer PS2 games released as downloadable from PSN and be able to make them region free there? I am thinking that maybe when releasing on PSN, the legalities of distribution would be drawn up fresh and they could make them worldwide from the start.

I just don't understand why publishers don't want to remove the regional restrictions and make more money. It seems like it would be free money with no distribution costs if they did it on PSN. I can't see why 3rd party publishers would not jump on being able to milk more money out of another region buying their game on PSN with little effort on their part since so many PS2 games work with the backwards compatibility.

because its not so easy?

for example:

shadow hearts 3:

- japan: aruze
- usa: xseed
- europe: ghostlight
- germany: thq

> different publishers / distributors and all want money

 

[Oni Jazar]

Anyone want to test their Motorola Headset to see if the connection issue has been fixed?

 

[badcrumble]

Another thing to report: HDCP issues (blue sparkles) with older-firmware Westinghouse LCDs at 1080p resolution seem to have been significantly reduced.