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10 Cloverfield Lane |SPOILER THREAD -OT-Hybrid| It’s still not Voltron

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Croc said:
Like I said earlier in the thread that theory makes no sense because Emmett and Howard built the bunker together. Howard knew the air filter room was there and since all of the stuff with his daughter happened before the attack, there was no reason he couldn't have entered it from the outside as opposed to the air vent. There's no way it would have been his own daughter that would have been hidden there.
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It doesn't matter if they built the bunker together or not. The room only had two exits: the way that led outside and the ventilation shaft. Now considering it was locked from the inside, it means that Emmet was the only one who could have left the room after it was locked. This had to have been a collaborative design between both parties though as a means to prevent anyone from the outside from getting into the room. But regardless of, it also means that Emmet could have kept anything or anyone in there without Howard's knowledge since he would be the only person with access to the room after it was locked.

For a different theory I just thought of while typing that, what if Howard's reasoning behind kidnapping Michelle was because of the air filtration room? He sees her at the gas station, on his way back the attack happens and he realizes he has no access to the room so he drives her off the road to abduct her as a contingency should he ever have need for someone to get into the room. He himself can't get in, so someone has to right? He wasn't expecting Emmet (he fought his way in, remember?) so he had to think fast and she was his best option at that moment.

Oh and Howard showing up clean shaven with ice cream after he killed Emmet? I think it was meant to be a type of "celebratory" moment. The person he suspected of allegedly having killed his daughter is now dead, which puts him in a cheerful and sane peace of mind. Which is clearly short lived when he feels betrayed by seeing Michelle's plans for escape.

EDIT: Well he does say in the movie that his daughter's mother turned her against him and they left and went to Chicago. Though the movie does hint that his daughter was actually killed (assuming the girl in the picture was Megan, which I believe to be true).
 
This is some Dhalsim-level stretching now lol.

But also: why did that ventilation room even exist? Why would anybody build a critical life support system in a totally inaccessible way? That latch that Howard tried to open but couldn't: what was that going to give him access to anyway?
 
Wasn't the other way in blocked? Wasn't that the reason she had to go through the vents? Making three ways to get in.

I might be remembering wrong.
 
Joe Prodigy said:
Wasn't the other way in blocked? Wasn't that the reason she had to go through the vents? Making three ways to get in.

I might be remembering wrong.
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The way I remember it is John Goodman tried to pull down a 2-foot-long door or something and it wouldn't budge, so something was blocking it. Either way, he wasn't fitting in there.
 
Joe Prodigy said:
Wasn't the other way in blocked? Wasn't that the reason she had to go through the vents? Making three ways to get in.

I might be remembering wrong.
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You're right. I forgot about that. So my theory of her deliberate abduction for access to the room is likely very, very wrong lol I would say though that the blocked off entrance was probably deliberate to keep Howard from getting up there and still leaving Emmet with the only access. He didn't want Howard to know what he had allegedly done to Megan.

EDIT: Hmmm Reelbigtink. Hadnt thought about Howard not fitting into that entrance either. If true, then my theory could
work after all. Although, it would be odd that he wouldn't have some way of getting in himself, unless he always planned for Emmet to be with him. Even though he had his suspicions against Emmet, he would need him for the room in case of emergencies, so figured it was better than the alternative of dying. Maybe that ties into why Emmet also had to fight his way in? Howard didn't need him for the room anymore because he had Michelle?
 
The only thing I keep thinking about is that if I were stuck in the bunker (if I were any of the three of them), my primary focus would have been to keep a close eye out of the bunker window to ascertain what's going on outside. They would have definitely seen a few UFO's milling about if they did that, considering they passed over the bunker multiple times.
 
Durock said:
You're right. I forgot about that. So my theory of her deliberate abduction for access to the room is likely very, very wrong lol I would say though that the blocked off entrance was probably deliberate to keep Howard from getting up there and still leaving Emmet with the only access. He didn't want Howard to know what he had allegedly done to Megan.

EDIT: Hmmm Reelbigtink. Hadnt thought about Howard not fitting into that entrance either. If true, then my theory could
work after all. Although, it would be odd that he wouldn't have some way of getting in himself, unless he always planned for Emmet to be with him. Even though he had his suspicions against Emmet, he would need him for the room in case of emergencies, so figured it was better than the alternative of dying. Maybe that ties into why Emmet also had to fight his way in? Howard didn't need him for the room anymore because he had Michelle?
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Yeah, I'll buy that. This is the last movie I thought I'd have any crackpot theories on but I'm really enjoying this one.

Also why else would Emmet destroy a week's worth of food on the first day other than trying to stir up tension?
 
Arkeband said:
The only thing I keep thinking about is that if I were stuck in the bunker (if I were any of the three of them), my primary focus would have been to keep a close eye out of the bunker window to ascertain what's going on outside. They would have definitely seen a few UFO's milling about if they did that, considering they passed over the bunker multiple times.
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And they would have if Howard wasnt forcing them to stay away. Which is why i think he was mainly just wanting to use that place as a home for his hostages.
 
~Kinggi~ said:
And they would have if Howard wasnt forcing them to stay away. Which is why i think he was mainly just wanting to use that place as a home for his hostages.
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But if you can see outside the window, then something could also see inside the window, correct? Think of how paranoid Howard was. Why would he want to risk that kind of exposure?
 
So I kept wondering if Emitt was in on it with Howard because ever since they found the picture of Howard with Megan I was wondering...who took the picture?
 
The outer door wasn't sealed why would you spend any more time next to it than you need to.

Y'all so much more interested in talking about things that weren't in the movie instead of the things that were.
 
bigboss370 said:
So I kept wondering if Emitt was in on it with Howard because ever since they found the picture of Howard with Megan I was wondering...who took the picture?
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I never thought about that. And since the girl in the picture is actually Brittany I believe, and since she's presumed dead, the whole earring in the room + Emit being small enough to fit thing lines up.
 
Elitist1945 said:
I never thought about that. And since the girl in the picture is actually Brittany I believe, and since she's presumed dead, the whole earring in the room + Emit being small enough to fit thing lines up.
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Why would Howard take a picture with Brittany though? Wouldn't it make more sense of Emmet taking a picture of Megan with her father?
 
Durock said:
Why would Howard take a picture with Brittany though? Wouldn't it make more sense of Emmet taking a picture of Megan with her father?
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Because it sounds like Brittany was the previous Michelle, in that Howard made her into his new daughter. Maybe I have to watch the film again.
 
Elitist1945 said:
Because it sounds like Brittany was the previous Michelle, in that Howard made her into his new daughter. Maybe I have to watch the film again.
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Then if Emmet took that picture, then it would imply that he was in the abduction of Brittany with Howard, and there hasn't been anything to suggest that they were in such a thing together. Which would mean one of two things: it was Megan, or Emmet didn't take the picture.
 
Durock said:
Then if Emmet took that picture, then it would imply that he was in the abduction of Brittany with Howard, and there hasn't been anything to suggest that they were in such a thing together. Which would mean one of two things: it was Megan, or Emmet didn't take the picture.
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I'm under the belief Emmet is innocent but I was just pitching in ideas on the conspiracies. Always good when a movie is open to interpretation.
 
Felt like the ending jumped the shark. Didn't like it.

Anything that happened prior to the last 10 minutes was pretty great though. Goodman did an amazing job.
 
I'm actually kinda glad I had the ending somewhat spoiled for me now that there's so many negative impressions on it . Who knows if it would've killed my vibe if I was completely in the dark .

To me the ending is a non issue. It was there to appease people that wanted more than just 3 people in a bunker and to tie it into a Cloverfield universe BUT they could get away with it because I feel like it solidifies MEWs arc and her transformation as a person, after going through what she had to in the bunker her she can get through anything . Monsters come in many forms !
 
bigboss370 said:
So I kept wondering if Emitt was in on it with Howard because ever since they found the picture of Howard with Megan I was wondering...who took the picture?
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i thought emmet know who brittany was (the school photo picture that howard showed michelle, which was the same one she showed emmet). the polaroid was a picture of howard and megan, presumably taken by howard's wife/megan's mother.
 
Really solid thriller film. Definitely liked it quite a bit more than the first Cloverfield. I would've preferred if it ended right when she said "you're kidding me" and the alien ship flies toward her, but I guess they've gotta fill their explosion quota.

Goodman being both right and insane was nice; too many movies do one or the other with that kind of character.
 
This movies marketing and just coming out of nowhere and releasing feels so fresh to me. I think a lot of people hate the twist because they didn't know it before hand and its not like Batman vs Superman where I know the entire movie without even seeing it.
 
oc said:
I think you can say it at least once in a PG-13 movie.
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You get to use it once, and I think 10CL used its one time particularly well.

Quite liked the movie. Was tense the entire time. I'd be down for more Cloverfield anthology films but I do think that the bait and switch will kill any chance of them happening, hence the B- CinemaScore.
 
rekameohs said:
Really solid thriller film. Definitely liked it quite a bit more than the first Cloverfield. I would've preferred if it ended right when she said "you're kidding me" and the alien ship flies toward her, but I guess they've gotta fill their explosion quota.

Goodman being both right and insane was nice; too many movies do one or the other with that kind of character.
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That would've been awful if you really get down to it. You see her character just go through all that, become a stronger person just to have a damn spaceship fly towards her and end shot, too much ambiguity and basically everyone thinking she's gonna die. This movie was a character piece first and foremost, that would've derailed us watching everything she had to go through.

I don't mind the idea of seeing her drive and decide to go to Houston and help WHILE seeing a fat ass mother ship in the sky. That would've been a decent ending.
 
People think that this movie 'God particle' produced by JJ is part of the Cloververse.

“In the near future, a team of astronauts on a space station make a terrifying discovery that challenges all they know about the fabric of reality, as they desperately fight for their survival.”
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Yay, I can finally read this thread.

Superb film: three great performances, strong script, tense as hell all the way through. Set in a very tiny location and used it to great effect. The repeated swings at the end - yes he's crazy, no the air is not bad, yes there's still shit going down, so in reality both abducted her and saved her - were all perfectly done.

Had a bit of deja vu with the ending scene, too reminiscent of Cruise chucking a grenade into the tripod in the last version of War of the Worlds. But otherwise loved it, so many little details worked.

Elitist1945 said:
I forget, when did the F word get its use? Was it when MEW kicked the vat of acid onto Goodman?
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After the alien ship drops the car. She gets out and just says, "Fuck."
 
GhaleonEB said:
After the alien ship drops the car. She gets out and just says, "Fuck."
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Thanks! Also, yeah, the shot of MEW's truck getting picked up was almost a 1:1 to this:

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Yeah, that ending scene felt almost lifted from War of the Worlds.

Anyone else think of the Combine when the aliens were shown, with their flesh/mechanical ships and weird slug like bodies
 
GhaleonEB said:
Yay, I can finally read this thread.

Superb film: three great performances, strong script, tense as hell all the way through. Set in a very tiny location and used it to great effect. The repeated swings at the end - yes he's crazy, no the air is not bad, yes there's still shit going down, so in reality both abducted her and saved her - were all perfectly done.

Had a bit of deja vu with the ending scene, too reminiscent of Cruise chucking a grenade into the tripod in the last version of War of the Worlds. But otherwise loved it, so many little details worked.



After the alien ship drops the car. She gets out and just says, "Fuck."
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i think the action-heavy ending was necessary catharsis for the extremely tense everything in the bunker. the 'fuck' and 'you've gotta be kidding me!' were nice elements to lighten it up a little. after the movie ended, we sat through the credits just to come down from it all.

i can only point to that and the game they played as the only comic relief parts of the movie. although i find some dark humor in emmet's explanation as to why the scissors and tape went missing. scissors and tape and his excuse is that he was going to take howard's gun to prove what a man he is to michelle. he doesn't even realize who he's talking to and what a flat out dumb explanation it is when 'i accidentally tore a thing and wanted to fix it' would have worked a lot better. emmet's 'aaaaaand i'm sorry,' is just the icing on a series of dumb things to come out of his mouth.
 
Just got back...before I read through this thread, has the idea of it being a vague link to the Half Life series been suggested?
 
sobnekahcS moT said:
Nobody noticed the Slusho sign at the gas station in the beginning?
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Also, that gas station was called Kelvin Gas. Kelvin is the name of J.J. Abram's grandfather. Almost every J.J Abrams movie has a Kelvin reference. In Star Trek, the starship in the beginning is the Kelvin. In Star Wars, there is a reference to Kelvin ridge, and in Super 8 and 10 Cloverfield Lane there are Kelvin branded gas stations. Even though it was already denied by Abrams, seeing that made me really want Super 8 to be part of the "Cloververse".
 
AniHawk said:
i think the action-heavy ending was necessary catharsis for the extremely tense everything in the bunker. the 'fuck' and 'you've gotta be kidding me!' were nice elements to lighten it up a little. after the movie ended, we sat through the credits just to come down from it all.
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So be clear, I loved the ending sequence - I really wanted there to be something going on out there, but wanted to be surprised, and it hit both notes perfectly. I just found that moment very familiar. It happened and even during the film I immediately thought of WotW. Still fun as hell.

My daughter and I also sat through the credits just trying to unwind the tension. And I really had to pee, too.

I'm a little confused about the wine bottle. Was that hers, from the beginning? How did it get there? Was that her car?
 
Persona7 said:
Any word on whether imax is worth it? Might see it tonight.
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I saw it in IMAX. A lot of the shots, especially early on, are super close up, tight frames on MEW. I'm sure that plays just as well on regular screen. Most of the movie is pretty low on the kind of fine detail that's easier to pick out on IMAX.

The sound in IMAX was super good tho.
 
GhaleonEB said:
So be clear, I loved the ending sequence - I really wanted there to be something going on out there, but wanted to be surprised, and it hit both notes perfectly. I just found that moment very familiar. It happened and even during the film I immediately thought of WotW. Still fun as hell.

My daughter and I also sat through the credits just trying to unwind the tension. And I really had to pee, too.

I'm a little confused about the wine bottle. Was that hers, from the beginning? How did it get there? Was that her car?
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i think it had been in the truck from the start.
 
GhaleonEB said:
I'm a little confused about the wine bottle. Was that hers, from the beginning? How did it get there? Was that her car?
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She takes the bottle from her apartment in the opening sequence. Later on Howard gives her a box of stuff that he took from her car and tells her that he didn't have time to go back for it. It's in Howard's truck.
 
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