TheChewyWaffles
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At least vanilla WoW had content.
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100+ hours of Destiny has shown me the true enemy.
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At least vanilla WoW had content.
How would continuing to allow you to make progress after doing the Daily and some bounties not be respecting your time? You make it seem like restricting progress IS respecting our time.
Did Machinima quote this thread?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6kugpX3PqE&list=UUcMTZY1rFXO3Rj44D5VMyiw&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6kugpX3PqE&list=UUcMTZY1rFXO3Rj44D5VMyiw&index=2
Good avatar. <3
Bungie quotes the 1.x hours a day per player figure like they're proud of it. How much progress does the average over-level 20 player MAKE in those 1.x hours a day Bungie? If you don't like PvP you're doomed to replay the same handful of strikes & raids ad nauseum.
Making it an insane (luck-based) grind to get to 30 may seem like a clever way to string out minimal launch content in the short term but they're risking crazy player fatigue.
I'm 23 hours in, at level 22 and I've only done story missions up to Venus (they suck). Just doing Strike play lists and crucible stuff.
I think I'm finally done. I played all day today and went up a level but got no new weapon drops that were better than the stuff I was using. I gained about 6 light by getting the same gear (name, looks etc) with ever so slightly different stats (but not better, just different).
I got disconnected from budgie servers 4 times in the middle of strikes but didn't get booted to title screen. Never happened roaming the moon or Venus for patrol
Missions. Never lost connection to PSN etc. it fucking sucked.
I'd love to do the raid stuff and all that but it's just so slow to get anywhere. I've done the sepick Prime strike or the Nexus strike or that Mars one so many fucking times now. It's just a routine.
Sigh.
I think I'm finally done. I played all day today and went up a level but got no new weapon drops that were better than the stuff I was using. I gained about 6 light by getting the same gear (name, looks etc) with ever so slightly different stats (but not better, just different).
I got disconnected from budgie servers 4 times in the middle of strikes but didn't get booted to title screen. Never happened roaming the moon or Venus for patrol
Missions. Never lost connection to PSN etc. it fucking sucked.
I'd love to do the raid stuff and all that but it's just so slow to get anywhere. I've done the sepick Prime strike or the Nexus strike or that Mars one so many fucking times now. It's just a routine.
Sigh.
Storm Raider
Banned
Hahaha yes they did!
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
I got to level mid 28 before even going into Crucible & that was only to get points for Bad JUJU. all my exotic gear (bar JUJU) I have bought (SUROS, 2 Helmets & Ice Breaker) all my legendary stuff I have bought twice over lol plus I I spend my Motes to get extra Shards which seem to be few & far between for me lol
Bruno
Member
Gloves 65 + Legs 65 + Chest 65 = 195
1 exotic from vendor is 23 coins.
I didn't say I know a guy who did it. I said me and everyone I know (EVERYONE) did it.
KennyLinder
Member
Yep, all chests, we followed a guide. Every chest just had shards/energy in it, and the mid-boss dropped the same. Final boss I got the white shader and 2 shards.
Anton Sugar
Member
I am hoping to tackle the raid this week and this is my nightmare.
GlamFM
Banned
That's not the nightmare.
When I played it, everyone in my group got the shader except one person, who got a fucking ship. And nothing but materials from chests. THAT is the nightmare.
Anton Sugar
Member
Machinima guys are obnoxious. Their review of Destiny was a very reactionary, "Why is everyone complaining? We get it, if you don't like Destiny, you don't like fun video games."
So what, I don't get the problem...
On my first raid I got only Shards/Energy and the white Shader.
The second time I got only Shards/Energy and the Auto Rifle with void damage.
I do not have a single piece of raid armor, while some of my friends are already fully equipped.
Who cares, it was a lot of fun!
On my first raid I got only Shards/Energy and the white Shader.
The second time I got only Shards/Energy and the Auto Rifle with void damage.
I do not have a single piece of raid armor, while some of my friends are already fully equipped.
Who cares, it was a lot of fun!
hymanator
Member
This is the first game that I've had a love/hate relationship with. There are so many things that piss me off about this game, but I can't stop playing it. My main focus was actually in the Crucible, and I started getting jealous when everyone else had all of these crazier guns than me. Then, I started focusing more on the campaign events to try to unlock all of these weapon and armor perks so I could finally make the Crucible matches feel more like a fair fight.
What pisses me off is that there should at least be some sort of "tournament" or arcade mode that gives everyone access to the same weapons and perks up front so we can just focus on playing for fun without feeling like we are at a disadvantage. That's what I loved about Halo. Imagine if you had to grind for 50 hours just to have a Battle Rifle in Halo 2. Destiny has awesome gameplay, but the "rpg" element basically wipes a big booger on it.
The "bounties" are probably the most annoying thing, it's basically no different than pulling up an Achievement or Trophy list to do annoying tasks like "shoot X 200 times in the head with weapon Y" to earn 20 gamerscore. I hated achievements that made me do that, and Bungie thought it would be a great idea to make that a never-ending game mechanic. I finally did unlock enough good weapons and armor with useful perks, but it sucks how much I had to "work" to get back to what I originally wanted to do... enjoy the Crucible mode.
What pisses me off is that there should at least be some sort of "tournament" or arcade mode that gives everyone access to the same weapons and perks up front so we can just focus on playing for fun without feeling like we are at a disadvantage. That's what I loved about Halo. Imagine if you had to grind for 50 hours just to have a Battle Rifle in Halo 2. Destiny has awesome gameplay, but the "rpg" element basically wipes a big booger on it.
The "bounties" are probably the most annoying thing, it's basically no different than pulling up an Achievement or Trophy list to do annoying tasks like "shoot X 200 times in the head with weapon Y" to earn 20 gamerscore. I hated achievements that made me do that, and Bungie thought it would be a great idea to make that a never-ending game mechanic. I finally did unlock enough good weapons and armor with useful perks, but it sucks how much I had to "work" to get back to what I originally wanted to do... enjoy the Crucible mode.
For the third or fourth time, that only works if Xur is selling a helmet for your class, he doesnt always (for example the first week) sell helmets. THUS YOU NEED TO BE LUCKY TO GET THE HELMET. You also need to be lucky to get the amount of strange coins needed, fresh 20's cant even enter the weeklys required to get them unless they get LUCKY ENOUGH to get the RIGHT upgrade materials to update their gear. Is it possible? Yes. Is it probable? Perhaps. Is it guranteed? NO. To gear up in two weeks you have to get lucky so stop repeating that its guaranteed.
You dont understand probability or plain english thats fine, but maybe you should preface your posts with that so people dont have to waste their time on you?
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Running strikes gets old as fuck for sure. I pretty much just try to do my daily heroic on 28 now that I can easily solo them for the shards or energy, do bounties on days I have more time to play for the xp to level gear and hoping Vanguard level up packages give shards/energy/strange coins and do the Weekly Heroic and Nightfall. Hoping to start doing the strike weekly this week.
Still repetitive, but at least more variety than just running the strike playlist--and I don't like the PVP.
That is exactly what I did. I used a blue weapon for pvp and pve until something better dropped.
That took me to level 27 without ascendant upgrades. After that I saved up 28 ascendant shards and got myself to level 28.
I don't know if you can be "good" at an RPG but understanding how to level efficiently goes a long way.
I have no wife or kids when I get home for a few hours tonight
I am like level 1.5 rep with my faction and need 22 marks to have 65
If I am not able to accomplish that tonight I am officially done with this game lol.
I feel like I spent half my weekend trying to get from 24 to 25
I am like level 1.5 rep with my faction and need 22 marks to have 65
If I am not able to accomplish that tonight I am officially done with this game lol.
I feel like I spent half my weekend trying to get from 24 to 25
Dude is continuing to compare launch day WoW with Destiny, which makes no kinda sense. You literally go through all of the content (ignoring the raid) in Destiny within 10 hours and that's being mighty generous. This is a dude that has done that, plus repeated missions and strikes over and over for their 3 nearly indistinguishable classes. It is mind boggling that any longtime MMO player would even look at Destiny and think the amount of content is remotely close. It's got a single city. One. It's like the size of a single PS Home zone with less interactivity. Shit is comedy that people are defending this game.
You're probably just playing out of compulsion. A lot of the design of this game is made to make you play compulsively. I'd suggest you take a week or two off and see if their spell is broken.
Oh, actually the exotic armor from Xur was only 13 coins. The helmet engram is 23 motes of light.
Yup, actually made fun of the OP
I watched the video, and honestly didn't understand the joke. I think it's unrelated to this thread.
OP brings valid criticism to the way Destiny rewards players and how it affects game progression. As I understand it, that's what this thread is about. But the guy in the video is saying that OP's mad because he played for 100 hours, questions why he did it, and implies that he wants his $60 back.
That's not funny, it's just... an incorrect statement.
Yup. It's very easy to make progress just doing daily/weekly content and playing the crucible. You can pretty easily get a full set of legendary gear without having to rely on RNG BS. Even farming upgrade mats isn't that bad if you work it into your vanguard bounty/rep grinding.
Tangential thought: I am somewhat surprised by people who say they play the strike playlists and that they're sick of playing them. Strike playlists are a waste of time, don't bother doing them if you're not having fun.
Well, it's repetitive because there's only a few strikes. But I like it, and I play even when my marks are capped. The main problem, for me, is having teammates that are playing because they have to, and not because they want to. These guys stay AFK or just rush through mobs to get to the boss, while I have to carry them in my back; also, this "kind" of player is very common because of the way this game is designed (repetitive bounties, content starvation, grinding marks/rep to buy gear, unfair RNG, etc).
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Wait a second wait a second waiiiittt aaaaaa seccccond.
So my friend just told me Vault of Glass is the last piece of FREE new content were getting with this game and everything else is going to cost us.
That can't be true right
So my friend just told me Vault of Glass is the last piece of FREE new content were getting with this game and everything else is going to cost us.
That can't be true right
Sword Of Doom
Member
Destiny is insanely cheap with giving loot. Since the loot patch I've probably gotten one actual item out of a legendary engram. they've all been shards or energy. I don't think bungie is stupid and I don't think loot is as random as they claim. I think the severe lack of content and loot system go hand in hand in this game.
Besides some weekly content ie Iron Banner and Queens stuff. Im afraid tis so.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
NO WAY.
Holy hell no way.
You mean to tell me the 7 hours of legitimate content in this game that they have suckered us into to playing over and over and over and over and over again is IT!!!
Oh man I want to break something.
Heh.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
that'll be 30 dollars for this next expansion pack update sir.
Yeah just $17.99 will get you a new raid and 1-2 strikes. I sense your apprehensive, how about 34.99 and Ill throw in the second expansion.
That shit is just fetch quests and more bars to fill up. No cheap dialogue no lore or anything.
When I hit the end of the story, I knew that was coming.
I bought the season pass, no regrets. My biggest worry is that there will only be two expansion packs, and that we'll have to wait until Destiny 2 for more. As dumb as the story and lore is, I'd like more of it. What's there feels like Act I of any other game.
It's not WoW. You're not paying $15/month to keep fresh content rolling in. I truly wish there was more to the game, but it's not going to be free. It's sad but true.
Anton Sugar
Member
Dude even if you HAD paid $50 for WoW, you'd likely still be marching through content 3 weeks after launch. The Vanguard, The Cruicible, The Queen IT's all the same thing. It's a character model a series of repetitive bounties, and a weapon. If you bought the limited of Destiny you have spent more than what I spent after 3 months of WoW including the $50 price and $15 monthly.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
My goodness. Bungie is evil and brilliant I can't even believe it.
Jackbooted
Member
There are still people out there thinking that Bungie is going to be putting in actual FREE content? I'm sorry you had to learn it this way...
DrROBschiz
Member
I think its more fair to compare Destiny to Bungies last Halo title than it is to compare it to WOW
Despite being built to resemble and MMO I dont think Bungie approached this first entry with that SCALE in mind.
I mean clearly not. I would like to know how it compares to the content they presented in Halo Reach.
Seeing the transition from that perspective seems to make more sense.
Halo is typically Campaign + Multiplayer and thats it.
Here in Destiny its like they Built RPG Halo and have it sitting as a base..... I think they stopped WAY too soon.
I dunno. Ive payed 60 bucks for this amount of content plenty of times in the AAA space but now it gets slammed because it doesn't fit in its own Genre?
This is a bizarre double standard guys.
Despite being built to resemble and MMO I dont think Bungie approached this first entry with that SCALE in mind.
I mean clearly not. I would like to know how it compares to the content they presented in Halo Reach.
Seeing the transition from that perspective seems to make more sense.
Halo is typically Campaign + Multiplayer and thats it.
Here in Destiny its like they Built RPG Halo and have it sitting as a base..... I think they stopped WAY too soon.
I dunno. Ive payed 60 bucks for this amount of content plenty of times in the AAA space but now it gets slammed because it doesn't fit in its own Genre?
This is a bizarre double standard guys.
Yep, I know it.
I was one of those day-one WoW guys, and I played until the first expansion, so my net investment was $50 + 24 * 15 = $410.
Destiny is definitely light on content, but, one month in, I'm still really enjoying it and playing it like an addict. I've played it enough that I can probably justify the $90 I paid for the limited edition.
I can completely sympathize with someone that would feel ripped off, though. The game could use more of practically everything (strikes, loot, locations, enemies).
CookedChocobo
Member
EDIT: Nvm read, interpreted wrong
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
What?
There is no way the campaign straight to finish is as long as a typical Halo campaign.
Plus the MP is fun but nowhere near as solid as Halo either.
Where is this quality your talking about?
How does it match up with Reach then? NOT WELL. You're talking about a great campaign with characters and a story line that can also be played with 3 other people. You have control over all of the difficulty and variables with skulls. You have way more options for multiplayer along with fully customized maps, game types, etc. You have theater for replays. On top of all of that you still have the weekly and daily challenges. Hell they even had a ranked arena playlist that was 3 vs. 3. Anyone who has played and loved Bungie games IN THE PAST knows this is less content than anything they released last gen.
Exactly this happened to me last week. Just to add insult to injury it was mostly ass energy and only two shards, the latter is what I'm severely lacking.
Tonight will be better though, I can feel it in me bones. Vex Myth and auto nerf, Drive club servers finally working (ish). Bring it on.
DrROBschiz
Member
These were the replies I was looking for
I had forgotten how big Reach was
I had forgotten how big Reach was
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