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[Cmerrill]

I'm in the market for a new TV(like many others)and I'm trying to find some info on what my current blu-ray collection will look like if I happen to buy a new 4k TV.

I'm sure loads of people here have experience, so my question(s) is, how does it hold up compared to a native 1080p display?
Should I just buy a 1080p TV or does a 4k TV and its upscaling look at least as good as a 1080p display? Do you need a special blu-ray player to upscale them or will the TV do it for you if played from a PS4?

 

[DOWN]

What I want to know is if there is really much delay to worry about playing 1080p on 4K displays

 

[Septimus Prime]

It looks fine. The scaling from 4K to 1080p is exactly 2:1 in both directions, so you'll still get a 1080p image, where each pixel is actually 4 pixels.

 

[terrisus]

I wonder how the moon landing will look in 4k...

 

[Wag]

Idris Elba is in everything.

 

[Syriel]

Talk about your misleading comparison images...

Image in OP is all sorts of wrong.

 

[Guess Who]

It looks fine. The scaling from 4K to 1080p is exactly 2:1 in both directions, so you'll still get a 1080p image, where each pixel is actually 4 pixels.

Surely no TV is gonna do nearest-neighbor resizing, there will be some degree of filtering.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

I'm in the market for a new TV(like many others)and I'm trying to find some info on what my current blu-ray collection will look like if I happen to buy a new 4k TV.

I'm sure loads of people here have experience, so my question(s) is, how does it hold up compared to a native 1080p display?
Should I just buy a 1080p TV or does a 4k TV and its upscaling look at least as good as a 1080p display? Do you need a special blu-ray player to upscale them or will the TV do it for you if played from a PS4?

There is no way that image is accurate.

 

[enigmatic_alex44]

Unless you're going for an 80 inch or above screen OP, 4K is a waste of time and the huge price difference is not worth the slight upgrade. 1080p looks just as good at anything smaller than that.

3D flopped so now they are trying it with 4K and curved TV screens. No thanks.

 

[Cmerrill]

I wonder how the moon landing will look in 4k...

Lol. Son of a ....

 

[Cmerrill]

Unless you're going for an 80 inch or above screen OP, 4K is a waste of time and the huge price difference is not worth the slight upgrade. 1080p looks just as good at anything smaller than that.

3D flopped so now they are trying it with 4K and curved TV screens. No thanks.

My buddy works for Samsung and is getting me 60% off a new tv, so I will be paying much less than its retail value.

 

[neogaffer1]

Unless you're going for an 80 inch or above screen OP, 4K is a waste of time and the huge price difference is not worth the slight upgrade. 1080p looks just as good at anything smaller than that.

3D flopped so now they are trying it with 4K and curved TV screens. No thanks.

...what?

4K has made huge differences on laptop and desktop monitor sizes. Granted, those are closer, but, still...

 

[terrisus]

Lol. Son of a ....

Maybe it will be high enough resolution where you can finally see the strings!

Spoiler

<3

 

[robotrock]

im on a 1080p monitor

 

[XiaNaphryz]

My buddy works for Samsung and is getting me 60% off a new tv, so I will be paying much less than its retail value.

60% off is the employee discount? DAMN!

 

[Cmerrill]

60% off is the employee discount? DAMN!

40% to 60%.

But they have to buy their own phones, everything else is a huge discount.

 

[Caboose]

Unless you're going for an 80 inch or above screen OP, 4K is a waste of time and the huge price difference is not worth the slight upgrade. 1080p looks just as good at anything smaller than that.

3D flopped so now they are trying it with 4K and curved TV screens. No thanks.

Wat

 

[Septimus Prime]

Surely no TV is gonna do nearest-neighbor resizing, there will be some degree of filtering.

In either case, whatever it is the TV does, the picture looks clear and crisp.

 

[Raistlin]

It looks fine. The scaling from 4K to 1080p is exactly 2:1 in both directions, so you'll still get a 1080p image, where each pixel is actually 4 pixels.

While potentially some TVs may offer a 4:1 mode like this, that is not the norm. They extrapolate data, and the results can vary.

 

[Loofy]

If youre getting a huge discount go for it.

 

[Speevy]

4k is really only recommended on a 50 inch TV or bigger, right?

 

[xXCrazyCostaXX]

I have a 4k Samsung and I can see the difference the up scaling offers on 1080p content. Is it life altering? No...but it does look nice and I have rented some 4k movies and they were gorgeous. My vote is if the budget is there then go for it.

 

[faridmon]

40% to 60%.

But they have to buy their own phones, everything else is a huge discount.

Oh man, I wish I had a friend who worked at Samsung.

 

[plainr_]

There is no way that image is accurate.

It's not.

 

[DarkFlow]

I have 4K, it's not a huge improvement, but it's nice. With the release of the M series today, 4k has gotten even cheaper. So you might as well.

The 2015 Vizio M series are in and I think we have a bang-for-buck winner for gaming tvs:

They have a wide variety of sizes, 4K resolution, local dimming 18.5 millisecond input lag (perfect for gaming) and best of all, they are reasonably priced!

43" M43-C1 $599
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-m...D=2&siteID=Qn3VZ7ygV30-_cL5hBzdatf6ZFF51931IA

50" M50-C1 $899
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-m...D=2&siteID=Qn3VZ7ygV30-d0U4ZFJSgUojXMlcC1X4sg

55" M55-C2 $999
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T63YW38/?tag=neogaf0e-20

60" M60-C3 $1499
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T63YMGK/?tag=neogaf0e-20

65" M65-C1 $1699
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-m...D=2&siteID=Qn3VZ7ygV30-msGSNa5io2a723_uwwJTRw

70" M70-C3 $2199
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T63YVAM/?tag=neogaf0e-20

80" M80-C3 $3999
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-m...D=2&siteID=Qn3VZ7ygV30-Cof4dvVn5A1Dg0eLm6wyEg


Again, these tvs have been tested with the Leo Bodnar device to have 18.5ms input lag, which would make them better than all the 2014 Sony's, save the (much more expensive) W950B, which was tested at a similar 17.8ms input lag.

http://www.rtings.com/info/input-lag-tvs

 

[Cmerrill]

I was looking at these ones.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN65JU7500-Curved-65-Inch-Ultra/dp/B00T48CVWY

 

[Zeyphersan]

I have 4K, it's not a huge improvement, but it's nice. With the release of the M series today, 4k has gotten even cheaper. So you might as well.

Shit, those are nice lag numbers. I know what I'm getting

 

[Finaika]

Why does 1080p looks like crap?

 

[TMONSTER]

It should look exactly the same if you get a 4k TV that has proper 1x4 pixel scaling.

 

[Cmerrill]

It should look exactly the same if you get a 4k TV that has proper 1x4 pixel scaling.

That's an awesome option, is that standard in all 4k TV's? Or at least mid to high level ones?

 

[terrisus]

Why does 1080p looks like crap?

We've just been lying to ourselves for the past decade :þ

 

[Astral/H3X]

That's an awesome option, is that standard in all 4k TV's? Or at least mid to high level ones?

That's the only way I'd ever consider a 4K TV ha.

 

[TMONSTER]

That's an awesome option, is that standard in all 4k TV's? Or at least mid to high level ones?

I am not sure about other brands, the model in the pic is a Panasonic l65wt600 I got in 2013, id assume Panasonic's current models have the same feature.

 

[Cmerrill]

I am not sure about other brands, the model in the pic is a Panasonic l65wt600 I got in 2013, id assume Panasonic's current models have the same feature.

Awesome. You find it looks just as good at a 1080p display? better?

 

[TMONSTER]

Awesome. You find it looks just as good at a 1080p display? better?

Yes it is just like a 1080p display in that mode, but I actually rarely use that mode. I let the display upscale to 4k as the upscaling is really good and straight 1080p looks soft in comparison.

 

[Dryk]

Yes it is just like a 1080p display in that mode, but I actually rarely use that mode. I let the display upscale to 4k as the upscaling is really good and straight 1080p looks soft in comparison.

Considering how variable HDTV interpolation can be I think it's great that there's at least one model giving people the option.

 

[crimsondynamics]

Here's a comparison between 4K, FHD, HD and SD images, cropped to 720x480 for each image.

I searched for sharp 4K wallpapers on Google, then reduced the image size to 1920x1080, 1280x720, and 720x480, then stretched them back to 3840x2160. All image processing was done in Photoshop CS6.

 

[NYR]

Here's a comparison between 4K, FHD, HD and SD images, cropped to 720x480 for each image.

I searched for sharp 4K wallpapers on Google, then reduced the image size to 1920x1080, 1280x720, and 720x480, then stretched them back to 3840x2160. All image processing was done in Photoshop CS6.

Interesting. Really sells you on the fact you don't need a 4K TV.

 

[Cmerrill]

4k definitely looks better, but my primary concern is how will my 1080p blu-rays look on a 4k tv If they're upscaled to 4k, will they look better than a native 1080p display displaying the same movies??

 

[mr stroke]

1080p OLED > 4k LCD

Unless you have a projector, 4k isn't worth it over picture quality(and I use a 4k monitor)

 

[Cmerrill]

1080p OLED > 4k LCD

Unless you have a projector, 4k isn't worth it over picture quality(and I use a 4k monitor)

Yeah, but OLEDS are so goddamn pricey, burn in and lifespan of the set is still an issue to, eh?

 

[hodayathink]

Unless you're going for an 80 inch or above screen OP, 4K is a waste of time and the huge price difference is not worth the slight upgrade. 1080p looks just as good at anything smaller than that.

3D flopped so now they are trying it with 4K and curved TV screens. No thanks.

Next thing you're going to post that bullshit ass chart that relates screen size, viewing distance, and resolution.

 

[crimsondynamics]

Interesting. Really sells you on the fact you don't need a 4K TV.

Actually you're right. I remember the jump from SD to HD and it was awe-inspiring.

The jump from HD to FHD was impressive, but less so than the previous bump in resolution.

Now from FHD to QHD I'm really starting to see diminishing returns.

If you sit six feet away from a 50" plasma and watch SD content, then switch to HD content, the difference is night and day.

Switch from HD to FHD on the same screen at the same viewing distance, and it's not nearly as noticeable.

Given the above, I think if, given the same circumstances, the bump from FHD to QHD is nearly imperceptible.

Honestly, I prefer having FHD 3D rather than QHD. At least with 3D I can bob and weave my head and say "hey, the perspective is shifting!"

 

[Valnen]

There is no way that image is accurate.

Clearly this is the more accurate comparison.

 

[chiliboy]

Here's a comparison between 4K, FHD, HD and SD images, cropped to 720x480 for each image.

I searched for sharp 4K wallpapers on Google, then reduced the image size to 1920x1080, 1280x720, and 720x480, then stretched them back to 3840x2160. All image processing was done in Photoshop CS6.

Yeah 1080p looks fine!

 

[Chance Hale]

Yeah 1080p looks fine!

I have no idea how accurate a comparison that photoshop comparison is but the first set of images is clearly far sharper than the rest. Not sure how 1080P looks fine in that specific image's context as it's very blurry.

 

[liquidtmd]

Clearly this is the more accurate comparison.

LOL! Exactly. I love HD but even the 480 shot in the OP is misleading

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Here's a comparison between 4K, FHD, HD and SD images, cropped to 720x480 for each image.

I searched for sharp 4K wallpapers on Google, then reduced the image size to 1920x1080, 1280x720, and 720x480, then stretched them back to 3840x2160. All image processing was done in Photoshop CS6.

Perfect. The original picture is hilarious.

I own a 4KTV and you are not missing much because there's barely any 4K content and the difference is small.

 

[MilkyJoe]

Why does 1080p looks like crap?

To make you think you need 4K... complete bollocks.

ps why do they call it 4K? Why not 2K or 2160p? Why change the whole resolution convention just to make it seem more impressive?

 

[Chance Hale]

Anyone here have their PC connected to their 4K TV? Specifically ones with HDMI 2.0. That seems like the main source of 4K content as of now as long as you have a capable graphics card(or two)