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1up.com Releases A 38 Page, $11 Magazine
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nckillthegrimace
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I hope Parish's article on Other M is actually insightful and not some tired Sakamoto is sexist/has assassinated Samus's character rant. His article's tagline (and history of writing) has me hopeful, though.
MrDanger88
Member
What a joke. $11 for 38 pages? Get real.
FINALFANTASYDOG
Member
I paid for this issue, so I feel I can say this:
When you see(what appears to be!) a corporation throw an $11 price tag in your face for 38 dollars there is much feeling of "UMM excuse me, a tad bit rip-off scam...)
but for some reason the same amount for a fanzine, "oh $11? Too cheap, let me buy the more expensive version , Support the author! feeling springs out.
I realize this is non-rational feelings, but I think that's some of the problem with the backlash here.
Edit:
MAG CLOUD FEES
That gives 1up, about $2 revenue an issue(it seems they went with perfect binding) . You have to pay the multiple free-lancers, writers, lay-out people etc.
When you see(what appears to be!) a corporation throw an $11 price tag in your face for 38 dollars there is much feeling of "UMM excuse me, a tad bit rip-off scam...)
but for some reason the same amount for a fanzine, "oh $11? Too cheap, let me buy the more expensive version , Support the author! feeling springs out.
I realize this is non-rational feelings, but I think that's some of the problem with the backlash here.
Edit:
MAG CLOUD FEES
That gives 1up, about $2 revenue an issue(it seems they went with perfect binding) . You have to pay the multiple free-lancers, writers, lay-out people etc.
You guys complaining about price need to understand this is print-on-demand, and color print-on-demand at that. 1UP obviously doesn't have the resources or facilities to pump out thousands of issues of a traditional magazine.
Perhaps that's still too much for your tastes, but just flipping through the first 60 pages of Wired I counted 32 ads, and I think a 1:1 ratio is a pretty safe estimate. 38 pages may be more content than you think.
Perhaps that's still too much for your tastes, but just flipping through the first 60 pages of Wired I counted 32 ads, and I think a 1:1 ratio is a pretty safe estimate. 38 pages may be more content than you think.
texasairhead101
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why limit your potential readership?john tv said:
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Deleted member 22576
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..so then.. why not make an iPad app, too?texasairhead101 said:
CoachKevin
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If they could get this to my door (in the United States) for $8, I would be in. I have been a big fan of Jeremy's GameSpite Quarterly series. Yeah they are not full color pages, but you get like 300 pages of awesome writing and content (for the most part) for under $20.
Kill Screen has a fuckload of content, written by a lot of people, on a lot of different subjects.binary said:
1UP Presents appears to have content about Other M, Pac-Man and a Sega Saturn tribute... the appeal is going to be limited.
Kill Screen costs $12, 1UP Presents costs $11. Hmm.
Like the font on the cover, though
CartridgeBlower
Member
To me, this doesn't seem to be catering to hardcore gamers, but rather trying to take advantage of them. Next thing you know there will be 'alternate covers' with limited supplies!
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I want to support this, but after shipping, 16 bucks is a bit pricey for me. I hope it works out for them though.
FINALFANTASYDOG
Member
Vice said:
Wait a month and you can sample the entire thing!
CartridgeBlower said:
Frankenstrat said:
Really, making $2 revenue off an issue that will only sell to a very limited amount of people(thus difficult to recoup costs) and then giving the thing away for free after a month is "taking advantage of people"?
Frankenstrat
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$11 for 38 pages? seriously? what a frigging ripoff
kiunchbb
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I assume they are all feature story instead of quick down review, consider that most gaming magazine only have less than 10 pages of features (the rest 190 pages are advertisement, review that mean nothing, blog, release schedule, preview for game you read everywhere else 3 months ago, etcetc.. ). $11 is a pretty good deal.
SatelliteOfLove
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This is an aside, but every time someone mentions modern game mags size, or I buy a Gamepro for a cover story/interview recently, I get reminded of the BEHEMOTHS of 1994-era EGM. It takes 38 pages for $11 to get this comparison-by-mention out of me, though. Geez.
texasairhead101
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Jtwo said:
J. Parish
The conventional wisdom of our age is that print is dying, and the Internet is the sole future of communication. We disagree!...
They like print I guess and see it as a means to do business. And putting money into having an app built seems like a a unnecessary gamble. this way they can let it live or die without much lost.
outunderthestars
Banned
Shurs said:
exactly. This is a terrible idea.
CartridgeBlower
Member
FINALFANTASYDOG said:
Don't know where you're getting your numbers from but making $3 dollars an issue is a lot. Most magazines retail for 5-7 dollars, and although they have ad space in them, they certainly don't make $3 per issue in revenue.
outunderthestars
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CartridgeBlower said:
Most magazines sell more than the several hundred that this will....
FINALFANTASYDOG
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CartridgeBlower said:
First I got a more exact figure It's $2, as they went with perfect binding.
Most newsstand magazine's have circulation in the 10,000's, 1up is aiming at the long-tail so by very definition it has to be make more revenue per issue then your normal magazine
linko9
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Don't like this idea at all. If they're putting a lot of effort into producing great content (which it looks like this magazine has), why don't you just put it on your website so I actually go to it more than once or twice a month? It seems like they're intentionally degrading the quality of their website because of their nostalgia for print.
CartridgeBlower said:
I believe most magazines make next to nothing from their $5-7 retail price, in the USA at least, and all of their revenue comes from ads. The amount per issue depends on the circulation number.
Edit: The price may also be high because it's getting an extremely small run. I know from personal experience that printers will charge an absurd amount per issue if your run is under a certain number.
opticalmace
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If it's pure editorials (and pages full of text) I think it's probably fine.
If it's a small handful of articles with not that many words I think it's a rip-off. So I guess I don't really know.
If it's a small handful of articles with not that many words I think it's a rip-off. So I guess I don't really know.
FINALFANTASYDOG
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linko9 said:
They are putting it on their website!(after a month). Really here is a man trying to save gaming print and everyone is bashing him to death. It's a nice premium item
linko9
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FINALFANTASYDOG said:
Well I guess that's alright then. But to me it seems like the people who are going to buy it are going to do so because they like the idea of having a physical item, which is fine. But that being the case, why not just compile all of the interesting content from your site every month (features, previews, reviews, interviews, etc.) into a magazine that can be special ordered? To me that seems like it would make everyone happier.
CartridgeBlower
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$11 bucks for 38 pages isn't saving print, it's helping drive it into extinction.
1up has probably been the worst run gaming website from a business standpoint for the past several years. What makes anyone think they will suddenly understand how to launch and run a high-end gaming magazine when their own website is rebooted from shambles every 18 months?
1up has probably been the worst run gaming website from a business standpoint for the past several years. What makes anyone think they will suddenly understand how to launch and run a high-end gaming magazine when their own website is rebooted from shambles every 18 months?
NotebookJ2
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I can't really see this being really successful. Even if it's ad-free, $11 is really expensive for a magazine.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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I get all my gaming news and editorials on this thing called the internet, for free.
outunderthestars
Banned
$16 an issue with shipping though? The content actually sounds surprisingly good for 1UP, but that price is absurd.
There just isn't a market for a $16, 38 page magazine. Almost everyone will simply wait for the free .pdf version.....
Is it really a premium item? Are you going to want to collect and shelve them? $16 gets me a hardcover book from Amazon, a kickass game from XBLA/PSN, or an advance copy of a rather anemic series of articles that I can get for free four weeks later.
The value proposition just isn't working in their favor.
There just isn't a market for a $16, 38 page magazine. Almost everyone will simply wait for the free .pdf version.....
FINALFANTASYDOG said:
Is it really a premium item? Are you going to want to collect and shelve them? $16 gets me a hardcover book from Amazon, a kickass game from XBLA/PSN, or an advance copy of a rather anemic series of articles that I can get for free four weeks later.
The value proposition just isn't working in their favor.
revolverjgw
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Perhaps each page is really awesome.
TurnipFritters
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thetrin said:
I like paper.