Serapth Ultima
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I don't find this shocking, as humanity has never been "good." We've always been ****ed up, we just merely find new ways to be worthless. The whole thing sucks...sick.
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2 Brothers get 10 years for cooking puppy in oven
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Doom_Bringer
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they were probably on drugs or something. losers
Freestyler
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Jeez, I swear people are more upset now than they would be if it were just some story about a 40 year-old man being beaten to death.
It's just a small dog people, not an actual human
The only thing that worries me is that these kids will probably end up killing humans when they're older - jail will just give them time to buff up and learn the ways of more serious crime.
It's just a small dog people, not an actual human
The only thing that worries me is that these kids will probably end up killing humans when they're older - jail will just give them time to buff up and learn the ways of more serious crime.
Cauliflower of Love
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ziegen said:
Seriously? Are you the one that cried over another thread also?
buckfutter
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It's so weird how these threads bring out all sorts of venomous revenge fantasies in otherwise stable posters.
Not saying that the story didn't make me ill, but I find the extreme nature of the response interesting. We had a thread the other day with people getting upset because others were joking (or just plain callous) about Anna Nicole Smith dying, but we go into a huge, brutal, cathartic frenzy whenever there's a child abuse or animal cruelty story floating around.
Forget it, Jake. It's GAFtown.
Not saying that the story didn't make me ill, but I find the extreme nature of the response interesting. We had a thread the other day with people getting upset because others were joking (or just plain callous) about Anna Nicole Smith dying, but we go into a huge, brutal, cathartic frenzy whenever there's a child abuse or animal cruelty story floating around.
Forget it, Jake. It's GAFtown.
Phobophile
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buckfutter said:
People are hypocrites. Get used to it.
Serapth Ultima
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It's not that it is a dog that matters, they broke the law, mind****ed some children, and went above and beyond on that dog. Yes, human life is worth more than the life of a dog (and no, I don't care if you disagree), but that doesn't mean that life doesn't have value, nor gives the kids the right to be absolutely foolish and callous. They deserve the ten years they got. Good riddance.
Freestyler
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xabre said:
Let me ask you something, are you a fan of capital punishment?
I find it strange that you all want these two boys locked in an oven or raped or just plain killed, when 'all' they did was kill an animal (not that it wasn't a horrible/illegal thing to do - but hey, they didn't exactly rape and kill a 90 year-old woman).
It's not even eye-for-an-eye as the boys didn't kill a human so killing them would be one step further than what they did and would actually be worse.
A lot of you need to grow up and realise that this kind of thing happens all the time - do you cry every time you realise that you just ate a chicken or beef product which originated from a death probably far worse than being 'cooked alive'?
I guess it comes down to what Phobophile said - people are hypocrites.
Serapth Ultima
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Freestyler said:
It's a typical forum attitude. Claim moral superiority while condemning everything to ass raping hell. It's silly. Personally, I don't give two shits what happens to them, they broke the law and probably deserve whatever is coming to them. But I'll admit people outraging everytime someone posts something outside of sentimental rage is dumb.
Serapth Ultima
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Javaman said:
Because calling them adults would be giving them too much credit.
Youta Mottenai
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I think you missed the point completely. Read my post again. I hate dogs. But this story made me fell ill. What this two freaks have done is sick. Pure sadism. Period. People will get upset, it doesn´t matter if is a dog or a 40 year-old man.Freestyler said:
I have the same worries.Freestyler said:
Freestyler
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Serapth Ultima said:
You got it dude, that's exactly it.
Smiles and Cries
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I bet they only serve 4 years max
Freestyler said:
No I'm not.
I never indicated the particular type of punishment I believe they deserve.
Irrelevant argument as per the previously listed point.
I think it is you who needs to do the growing up. Coming in here and reminding us that because it isn't a human it doesn't matter is in no way constructive to the debate, pisses a whole bunch of people off who do feel strongly about animal rights and simply trivialises an issue that I don't believe should be trivialised.
It's also disappointing that you seem to believe that animals being tortured to death for pleasure and animals being slaughtered for food are a one and the same kind of thing. The later is a necessary and productive process stemming a natural evolutionary desire for a rich source of energy, i.e. meat. The other is needless and sadistic.
lordfroakie
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Poor puppy ;_;
ThatCrazyGuy
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Freestyler said:
Who puts a live chicken in the oven? How do you get the rosemary inside?????
big_z said:death sentance. put the kids in an oven and youtube it please.
hmmmm.....
That is just plain disturbing. The baby's crying face makes it worse. Why post something like that in an emotionally charged thread? Find it very funny posting those pictures to mock those that are seriously affected by this story?
rollingstart
Banned
thats pretty messed up.
Der Kommisar
Banned
I like how everybody freaks out about a puppy being tortured to death. Wake the **** up, animal cruelty is how you get your food dumb asses. If you were Chinese you wouldn't give a shit. Put it in perspective before you go crying about a dead puppy.
Der Kommisar
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btrboyev said:
Oh shut the **** up
CurlySaysX
Banned
They didn't just kill the dog, they tortured the poor thing.
You'd have to have a seriously ****ed up head to cook an animal alive and they took it even further by duct taping it up and forcing kids to watch.
You'd have to have a seriously ****ed up head to cook an animal alive and they took it even further by duct taping it up and forcing kids to watch.
Serapth Ultima
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Der Kommisar said:
Great. Just what I needed. More stupid.
Pureauthor
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Der Kommisar said:
Why, hello there. I'm Chinese.
And this is a sick, twisted, disgusting act that makes me feel ill.
How could they torture the thing like that?
Rabid Wolverine
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****ing sick.
Hope they get raped over and over or shanked in prison.
Hope they get raped over and over or shanked in prison.
What motivated those people to threaten the children, break into a community center, and sticking a dog in the oven? I am more traumatized for the children seeing such a thing in person. I know that it wasn't a person being in the oven but it is still sick that they would stuff a living animal in an oven that isn't meant for consumption. This is coming from someone who is not interested in having pets around people.
Nothing should justify sticking a dog into a microwave, not even funny photoshops.
Nothing should justify sticking a dog into a microwave, not even funny photoshops.
True, else where in this world, people eat cats (hello China) or dogs (extreme native cultures). But seeing that in a cultured society where teens used a piece of technology for convenience for torturing for fun after taping and painting a small animal.... its just plain wrong.
We don't poke/pull fun at the lobster before we boil it do we? We don't do this crap to animals we eat eventually. Even hunters do pay their kills some respect.
Its just more unnerving that we just see it happening closer to home.
We don't poke/pull fun at the lobster before we boil it do we? We don't do this crap to animals we eat eventually. Even hunters do pay their kills some respect.
Its just more unnerving that we just see it happening closer to home.
Pureauthor
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Philia said:
I believe that Chinese traditionally eat dogs too.
But it's not that fact that it's a dog itself that sickens me (although a cute puppy does tug on the heartstrings thanks to the emotions incurred). It's the fact that they did this to a living being capable of feeling pain and agony, period.
If they'd stuffed a cow into some man-sized oven, I wouldn't feel any different about it. It's still awful.
Kai Dracon
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Okay, first off, some people are overlooking that a puppy is not a lobster or a chicken. Can a lobster or a chicken feel pain, etc? Yes. But a puppy is a creature that tends to occupy a mental place very similar to a human child. A puppy grows up to be a canine - a fairly intelligent, social animal that humans bond with and have one of the strongest emotional attachments to.
It's not just a matter of what other people feel about seeing a baby canine tormented and killed - to actually perform the act yourself, when you are a member of a culture (such as north america) that places the animal on that level of regard, requires an exceptional amount of callousness and ability to extract enjoyment from suffering. Which, is another point - being more intelligent and aware, a puppy is capable of experiencing far more suffering, fear, confusion, desperation, and panic, than a crustacean.
Cooking a lobster is one thing, and if you want to consider it technically cruel, you have some point. A puppy is a vastly different psychological space. It's a thing that expresses an innocence much like a human child does, and in fact, trusts the person about to harm it, unconditionally. While I'm not saying murdering an adult human is any less wrong, there are probably fewer inhibitions that have to be f**ked up in a person that would allow them to kill an adult, than a child, or something like a puppy, which occupies a close position perception to a child.
Short answer: people are not automatically hypocrites when they express more disgust over an act like this than a "normal" death, or the fact that their tasty lobster dinner was boiled alive. It's the difference between seeing a shooting and thinking "what a shame" and seeing somebody go Hannibal Lector on a toddler and freaking the hell out.
Okay, first off, some people are overlooking that a puppy is not a lobster or a chicken. Can a lobster or a chicken feel pain, etc? Yes. But a puppy is a creature that tends to occupy a mental place very similar to a human child. A puppy grows up to be a canine - a fairly intelligent, social animal that humans bond with and have one of the strongest emotional attachments to.
It's not just a matter of what other people feel about seeing a baby canine tormented and killed - to actually perform the act yourself, when you are a member of a culture (such as north america) that places the animal on that level of regard, requires an exceptional amount of callousness and ability to extract enjoyment from suffering. Which, is another point - being more intelligent and aware, a puppy is capable of experiencing far more suffering, fear, confusion, desperation, and panic, than a crustacean.
Cooking a lobster is one thing, and if you want to consider it technically cruel, you have some point. A puppy is a vastly different psychological space. It's a thing that expresses an innocence much like a human child does, and in fact, trusts the person about to harm it, unconditionally. While I'm not saying murdering an adult human is any less wrong, there are probably fewer inhibitions that have to be f**ked up in a person that would allow them to kill an adult, than a child, or something like a puppy, which occupies a close position perception to a child.
Short answer: people are not automatically hypocrites when they express more disgust over an act like this than a "normal" death, or the fact that their tasty lobster dinner was boiled alive. It's the difference between seeing a shooting and thinking "what a shame" and seeing somebody go Hannibal Lector on a toddler and freaking the hell out.
Lobster VS Puppy
Lobster: a primitive/non-evolving species
Puppy: a fairly advance evolving, trainable species which understand human emotion and interact with human in a fairly advance degree.
Lobster: one of its purposes to exist is to feed human
Puppy: Its main purpose to exist is to protect, help and be human companions
Lobster: ugly and scary, try to imagine lobster the size of a dog, you'd run for your life
Puppy: pretty and cute
Lobster: a primitive/non-evolving species
Puppy: a fairly advance evolving, trainable species which understand human emotion and interact with human in a fairly advance degree.
Lobster: one of its purposes to exist is to feed human
Puppy: Its main purpose to exist is to protect, help and be human companions
Lobster: ugly and scary, try to imagine lobster the size of a dog, you'd run for your life
Puppy: pretty and cute
Cauliflower of Love
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marsomega said:
Emotionally charged? deeply affected?
You people need to get a grip if you're breaking down over a dog you don't even know.
theviolenthero
Member
These guys have nothing to worry about.
They'll be out in 3-5 years to make room for a marijuana user.
They'll be out in 3-5 years to make room for a marijuana user.
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