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2010 World Cup Final |OT| Netherlands v Spain -- SPAIN WINS WORLD CUP!
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Anasui Kishibe
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what's with World Cup finals being fucking shitty lately? :lol
anyway, go Spain. I think I'm going there for two weeks on the holidays, have wonderful memories of the place and people
obligatory happy Spanish song
Que Viva Espana!
anyway, go Spain. I think I'm going there for two weeks on the holidays, have wonderful memories of the place and people
obligatory happy Spanish song
Que Viva Espana!
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spyshagg said:
Yeah, it was a bad call. But it is pure lack of selfcritisism to say that it was the reason we lost. There is absolutely no relation between the bad call and the goal. It would have been different if we conceded a PK from diving in the box. We lost because Spain was better. We shouldve been down to at least 10 in the first 30 min.
I've already said that Puyol, Iniesta, Van Bommel and De Jong all deserved to be red carded. Iniesta falling epitomises everything that's wrong with modern day refereeing. Had he remained standing, a foul that could have cost a goal in the world cup final would've gone unpunished. Even if you refuse to see it, Heitinga pulled his shoulder, stopping him from going against the keeper.SamuraiX- said:
I'd say it's the other way around, but maybe it's just me.SamuraiX- said:
Nope. They had to tone it down because half of the squad had yellow cards. They still didn't play clean, and Webb had plenty of opportunities for red carding Dutch players before Heitinga's foul broke the camel's back. And De Jong's foul wasn't "obviously not intentional".SamuraiX- said:
That stomp should've gotten Van Bommel a red card. Also, if he didn't throw out De Jong for the karate kick, he wasn't going to throw out Iniesta for the shove.SamuraiX- said:
He should have, but I've already stated my case on this one. The game was better with 22 men on the field instead of 19 like it should've been, had Webb followed the letter of the rulebook.
Wait, now I know why Danmark lost against Netherlands, They were too afraid to get injured (and somehow S. Poulen have a hardon for holland)
and Torres is just rubbish. I can't bellieve he is one of two players i Liked in liverpool as he dissapointed me severly (Dirk Kuyt is still awsome)
and Torres is just rubbish. I can't bellieve he is one of two players i Liked in liverpool as he dissapointed me severly (Dirk Kuyt is still awsome)
This. So much. As long as referees don't call "minor" fouls (pulling the shirt/shoulder, obstruction, smaller fouls inside the box that would result in free kicks outside the box), there will be a lot more diving. If you didn't have to dive in order to get the ref's attention, less people would. Busquets still would, and I think Robben would as well. Not to mention Gerrard.Hasphat6462 said:
Boozeroony said:
some referee calls are always subjective. Fouls etc..
But corners, throws, offsides, are not. They are fixed rules. Yesterday was the second time Spain scores right after one of these rules was not applied.
Offside against POR and the corner yesterday
these two mistakes directly influenced the outcome. Technology should be used in the big competitions
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First in order, WOOHOO WE WON! Euro Cup, World Cup - BEST spanish team EVER! Big shout outs for Luis Aragonés "The sage from Hortaleza", Vicente del Bosque and Iniesta - not for that goal, but for remembering his biggest friend Dani Jarque (deceased last year).
Second, it was shameful how the dutch abused the "lenient on red cards and second yellows" policy the FIFA likes for big finals like the Champions and the World Cup. It was sad how my team fell prey to the bar brawl strategy played out by the Dutch and started to kick back but when you are played dirty, you must play it back. The hypocritical attitude from some dutch fans here is sad too. I'll leave it at that.
Anyways WOOHOOO!
Second, it was shameful how the dutch abused the "lenient on red cards and second yellows" policy the FIFA likes for big finals like the Champions and the World Cup. It was sad how my team fell prey to the bar brawl strategy played out by the Dutch and started to kick back but when you are played dirty, you must play it back. The hypocritical attitude from some dutch fans here is sad too. I'll leave it at that.
Anyways WOOHOOO!
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I just hope Norway pulls itself together for the next Euros, I am sick and tired of supporting Danmark who are not going anywhere.
and MOral of this world cup guys (make sure you learn from my mistake):
If your country is not in a major Tournement, don't become patriotic and support your nabors. Or better yet, root for a strong team that have a chance to win it all.
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spyshagg said:
It was a mistake by the ref, but we should look at ourselves. There were many calls that couldve been different, on both sides. The possible red cards for Van Bommel and De Jong were hardly subjective. These fouls could bring severe physical harm: Red.
If the rules were applied correctly we shouldve been doen to 9 and we would have been butchered within 90 minutes.
After the falsely given goalkick, game goes on without much difference. We would have received a corner (possible goal, maybe 5-10% from corners lead to goals?), but SPain did not gain too much from a GK.
The Dutch played their max. Totally worked their asses off, but it was not enough. Webb did not have a good evening, but he did not have positive direct influence on the outcome for Spain.
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faridmon said:
I've had some very heated arguments with other fans during the World Cup about Torres. It IS true that as a striker he did shit. BUT when he's playing he knows how to drag defenders and players towards him in order to create paths for his team mates and he doesn't do stupid shit like holding the ball for himsef - he sees a good chance for a team mate, he passes. Villa's shining is a direct consecuence of Torres and let's not forget the definitive goal was a Torres play (with some luck as Cesc picked the rebounding ball).
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Boozeroony said:
this one I didn't even see, not disputing it, but where was van Bommels red? Or should he have had a double yellow?
SalsaShark said:
Oh, and the "promo" logo is beautiful, so no complaints there.
I'm mostly worried by how many people think this is a great logo.
Match was pretty crap, dirty play from Holland at the start was made up for by a few select Holland players that didn't fall into it and just played the game - Robben especially. I know he whined and bitched a lot, but I don't blame him for being frustrated after missing a couple of amazing chances - his first 1 on 1 shot was saved brilliantly, but with a lot of luck too.
Spain passing was really fun to watch, it's just a shame that the last goal came amidst so much uncertainty and scruffiness, the goal kick that should have been a corner, followed up by what I thought was a pretty obvious foul outside the Spanish box, then some really poor confused defending by Holland for the first time in the match.
For me teams that score are fun to watch, I never found Spain that entertaining throughout this world cup - apart from some really great passing. I was really behind Germany but unfortunately they played really poorly against Spain (although Spain also pressed them really well).
Looking forward to Euro 2012 now, I expect England to be shit again so I'm looking forward to seeing how the Germany team evolves in the next couple of years.
Right, but thats also few and far between. He is not as skilled as he used to be. He loses the ball way too much and actually can't chase the ball as good as Villa. Its not even about scoring goals.Bitmap Frogs said:
and supporting, Villa? Llorenet had more support than Torres IMO. even when he came in, t always looked like 10 Vs 11 (or rather 10 Vs 10) as he looked fragile and out of place.
Hopefully he recovers because when he is at his best, he is just unstoppebale.
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Agalloch said:
This is true too, '74's Netherlands losing was big load of bad luck after that first AMAZING play that ended in penalty and a score. A shame about the kidnapping attempt that retired Cruyff from the national team in '78.
It's sort of ironic Spain won the World Cup playing it Dutch style, but Cruyff has been inmensely influential here. Guardiola's just refined what he learned as a player from Cruyff as a coach.
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faridmon said:
Let's hope, el niño (the Kid) is such a great player when he's at his best. I do have to say I missed a Salinas-style striker in our team. He was the ULTIMATE striker to swap in for the last 15 minutes to break a 0-0 against a superb defense with his combination of height, luck and awkward quirky play on top of a superb sense of opportunity.
But truth be told, he wouldn't fit in this team. Times a change and so does football.
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faridmon said:Yeah, he wasn't fit. I am surprised to see him picked TBH.
aslso, the sad this is that Spain startetd to win trophies after Raul and Baraja retired
those two, bloody legends.
Well, for the longest time truth be told we didn't had a good enough national team. Then, well... I don't know how to say this... but as we say Envy is the national sport here and Raul has been the biggest star we've ever had in modern times and he was treated like that on the national team, he often came with his own trainers n stuff... Then he was a hadcore merengue specially since the R. Madrid rescued him when the Atlético dismantled his lower divisions where he'd played as a youngin since his whole family are hardcore colchoneros. There's always been a lot of resenment towards the R. Madrid everywhere too...
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catfish said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y8eeGdjhwM
Worse than I remembered, it could have ended a lot worse than it did with Iniesta having all his weight on one foot.
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