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[GoldenEye 007]

Wow title changed and OP banned.

I guess the banning was for inserting his opinion in a news thread?

edit: oh and fanning the flames in post #11

I don't think it was the poster inserting his opinion. I'd like to think of it more of the poster being a complete dumbfuck... or at least intentionally inflammatory.

 

[crowphoenix]

En masse? My God, just how many kids at this school had guns in their backpacks?

 

[Kurtofan]

We're not super lax on gun laws. Buying a gun isn't like buying a Blu-ray.

I don't know the US gun laws, but I hope they have to pass a license, right?

 

[The Lamonster]

How about making guns harder to use or RFID the guns to only be able to be used by the registered owner? There has to be a 21st century solution to prevent accidental gun fire.

Guns seem like a really easy way to kill people. Maybe it should be harder to kill people.

Agreed.

The glory days of killing...

 

[Cyan]

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Wow

Yeah, the culture of this forum is pretty baniferous.

Ban laws are pretty lax.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Wow. The gun laws in this country prove yet again to be a fucking joke.

you can't be serious. based on what? the kid probably kidnapped daddys gun and brought it to school. worse case, he bought it on the street.

in BOTH cases, he did something illegal to gain possession of it, and committed a second crime by bringing it on school grounds. law can't stop someone from COMMITTING a crime in this manner; it can only discourage the actions and punish those who have acted.

that's it. asking for more is like demanding cars be removed from roads because the laws don't prevent people from going faster than the speed posted on the road sign. or because someone under age was able to take their parents keys while they were asleep and drive somewhere and hurt themselves or someone else. the anger is misplaced.

people have to be given the expectation of personal responsibility and accountability at some point.

edit: oh, I guess he can't reply back. I'll just assume he would have acknowledged that he was wrong, I was right and apologized to those who read the thread.

 

[avatar299]

I don't know the US gun laws, but I hope they have to pass a license, right?

Yes, and a waiting period. There is also some other stuff you have to do in CA but it escapes me at the moment.

Yeah, the culture of this forum is pretty baniferous.

Ban laws are pretty lax.

:lol :lol

just isn't the same

 

[GoldenEye 007]

I don't know the US gun laws, but I hope they have to pass a license, right?

Usually to be able to carry a gun concealed. Varies by state with the vast majority, if not all of them, requiring classes, checks, etc., to be able to carry a gun concealed.

 

[Cyan]

I don't think it was the poster inserting his opinion. I'd like to think of it more of the poster being a complete dumbfuck... or at least intentionally inflammatory.

The dude had a way misleading thread title that implied there was a school shooting in California. I imagine the inflammatory nonsense was secondary to that.

 

[Neuromancer]

Not talking about this case really, replying to the other posters boneheaded comment.

Fair enough I guess.

Also timetokill I am not happy to see your EWJ avatar go.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Usually to be able to carry a gun concealed. Varies by state with the vast majority, if not all of them, requiring classes, checks, etc., to be able to carry a gun concealed.

yea. I have a concealed carry license good in most states. I had to take a class, pass a shooting exam, be very familiar with the laws and rules, and submit paperwork and a photo to the state for processing. took a at least a few weeks to get the license.

 

[SpacLock]

That kid was too young to have a semi-auto pistol. You should only be able to carry a one shot black powder at that age.

 

[avatar299]

Agreed.

The glory days of killing...

According to GAF, swords suck

 

[timetokill]

Also timetokill I am not happy to see your EWJ avatar go.

Heh, I didn't think anybody really noticed it!
I will probably go back to it in a bit, just want to give 999 some love for a while

 

[SpacLock]

According to GAF, swords suck

Swords do suck. It's all about ballistic knives now.

 

[womp]

So lets be super lax on gun laws because it's easy to kill people in other ways? The only use guns have is to harm a person/animal whereas planes are, obviously, used in better ways besides killing.

Or to defend your home from the miscreants who illegally own a gun thanks to these 'super lax' gun laws.

 

[womp]

What would be easier, killing me with a gun or a plane?

If I knew where you worked, I could take your whole place of occupation down with a plane...If I had a gun, well, I could miss....Although I was a pretty good shot with Duck Hunt in my youth.

I would go with a plane.

 

[Flo_Evans]

Yes, and a waiting period. There is also some other stuff you have to do in CA but it escapes me at the moment.

You can walk in stores here and walk out the same day with a gun. Don't even have to do a federal background check if its not a handgun.

 

[Lionel Mandrake]

According to GAF, swords suck

Don't fucking touch swords.

Edit: The story sucks. I remember some idiot brought a pistol to our high school to show his friends. Luckily he was caught pretty quick. I'm not sure if it was loaded or not.

 

[WickedAngel]

Or to defend your home from the miscreants who illegally own a gun thanks to these 'super lax' gun laws.

Why would criminals own guns? Don't they know that it's against the law?

 

[Alucrid]

If I knew where you worked, I could take your whole place of occupation down with a plane...If I had a gun, well, I could miss....Although I was a pretty good shot with Duck Hunt in my youth.

I would go with a plane.

What if I work underground? What kind of plane are we talking about? A Boeing 747 or a single propeller? What if I'm sick that day? Or late? Or out to eat? What if I get a promotion and move to another part of the building?

I feel like it would be much easier just to wait outside the building and gun me down there.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

You can walk in stores here and walk out the same day with a gun. Don't even have to do a federal background check if its not a handgun.

what state are you in?

 

[Xapati]

You can walk in stores here and walk out the same day with a gun. Don't even have to do a federal background check if its not a handgun.

This is imo the problem. People who know nothing of gun safety with weapons combined with a culture that glorifies weapons is a recipe for disasters.

 

[eznark]

I know. I want to see how GAF gun people defend American children en masse wielding guns.

avatar quote?

I had no idea there was no law against guns in schools in California.

 

[womp]

What if I work underground? What kind of plane are we talking about? A Boeing 747 or a single propeller? What if I'm sick that day? Or late? Or out to eat? What if I get a promotion and move to another part of the building?

I feel like it would be much easier just to wait outside the building and gun me down there.

Either way it would take some time to case you out....The bigger problem is the logistics of popping my chute at the proper time before impact.

 

[ToxicAdam]

What a terrible story. I guess the OP can now relate to how terrible accidents can happen when you carry something that is loaded.

 

[Neuromancer]

Heh, I didn't think anybody really noticed it!
I will probably go back to it in a bit, just want to give 999 some love for a while

Well I'm a big EWJ fan so there you go, no pressure though!

 

[SephirothRK]

I swear I saw something similar to this in Walker, Texas Ranger. :/

 

[eznark]

What a terrible story. I guess the OP can now relate to how terrible accidents can happen when you carry something that is loaded.

Talk about a culture of fear, are bans this haphazard these days that your off handed remark needed to be edited?

 

[Flo_Evans]

what state are you in?

Missouri.

What is really fucking scary is that when they do a federal handgun check, sometimes they are too busy and if they don't give an answer in 3 days they have to sell you the handgun here.

 

[andycapps]

Clearly the gun laws are not the issue here if a kid was bringing a gun to highschool since he couldn't have obtained it legally anyway with his age. So the question is if he stole it from someone, bought it illegally, or what?

 

[Piggus]

ITT anti-gun GAF doesn't know anything about guns or gun laws. Shocking.

Parents need to start acting more responsibly. This country really needs more/better gun safety education as well. One of my middle school teachers used to teach in California in a very bad part of some big city. One of her students was shot on accident by their brother, so she took it upon herself to educate her classes about gun safety. In some areas, guns are very easily accessible. Better education can at least help prevent accidents. Unfortunately, irresponsible people will be irresponsible.

 

[out0v0rder]

lol at the ops personal "opinion"

i like these forums.

 

[I NEED SCISSORS]

I thought it was a movie myth that guns can discharge just by dropping them.

 

[LaserBuddha]

I think we've found the most embarrassing thing that can happen to you in high school.

 

[Kurtofan]

I think we've found the most embarrassing thing that can happen to you in high school.

Don't blow your load on your schoolmates.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/18/police-at-least-3-shot-at-california-high-school/?hpt=T2


Wow. The gun laws in this country prove yet again to be a fucking joke.

WTF? so when someone gets killed while speading the speading laws are a fucking joke too?? your logic is bizarre.

 

[Plywood]

How about making guns harder to use or RFID the guns to only be able to be used by the registered owner? There has to be a 21st century solution to prevent accidental gun fire.

Guns seem like a really easy way to kill people. Maybe it should be harder to kill people.

Yes let those in pain suffer longer. :|

 

[Dahellisdat]

WTF? Did the same bullet injure 2 people or did the gun discharge twice?

 

[andycapps]

I thought it was a movie myth that guns can discharge just by dropping them.

I'm not buying the accidental line, but we'll see. I find it hard to believe that it accidentally discharged by his backpack being dropped. I don't know of any modern guns that would behave that way, unless it's a real piece of crap.

 

[jamesinclair]

Usually to be able to carry a gun concealed. Varies by state with the vast majority, if not all of them, requiring classes, checks, etc., to be able to carry a gun concealed.

Not in Arizona!

A couple of years ago they got rid of all those "silly" requirements.

Now it's just a basic background check. No classes, nothing.

And thats only for a NEW gun! A used gun? No background check required!

 

[Flo_Evans]

I thought it was a movie myth that guns can discharge just by dropping them.

Depends on the type and what condition the gun was in (safety on, hammer cocked, one in the chamber...) older gun designs with exposed hammers can definitely go off when dropped if not properly carried.

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

How are California's gun laws in any way lax? To purchase a pistol you need to be 21 years old, pass a 30 question test to get your Handgun Safety Certificate, have 2 forms of proof of residence, wait 10 days from the time of purchase to the time of actually picking up the pistol, all while undergoing the NICS check. Also, if children are in your house, by law, you need to have a gun lock on your pistol and you can't leave the gunstore without a gunlock with a new pistol purchase.

This is a horrible thing though. The fact the kid had access to the gun, bringing to school or wherever fully loaded with one in the pipe, should just NOT happen.

 

[avatar299]

I'm not buying the accidental line, but we'll see. I find it hard to believe that it accidentally discharged by his backpack being dropped. I don't know of any modern guns that would behave that way, unless it's a real piece of crap.

I'm assuming the gun was found still in the bag before the sheriff proposed this.

How are California's gun laws in any way lax? To purchase a pistol you need to be 21 years old, pass a 30 question test to get your Handgun Safety Certificate, have 2 forms of proof of residence, wait 10 days from the time of purchase to the time of actually picking up the pistol, all while undergoing the NICS check. Also, if children are in your house, by law, you need to have a gun lock on your pistol and you can't leave the gunstore without a gunlock with a new pistol purchase.

Thank you. i totally forgot most of that

 

[I <3 Memes]

We're not super lax on gun laws. Buying a gun isn't like buying a Blu-ray.
That said, that wasn't my point. People who want to be violent will be violent. They will just carry it out in another way.

I don't know the US gun laws, but I hope they have to pass a license, right?

Yes, and a waiting period. There is also some other stuff you have to do in CA but it escapes me at the moment.
:lol :lol
just isn't the same

None of this is necessary if a private citizen is selling a gun they own. No waiting period. No background check. I dont even have to know your name to sell a personally owned gun.

 

[Arnie]

How come in films bad guys can never manage to hit the protagonist yet a gun can randomly discharge in a backpack and hit three seperate people?

Stupid gun laws, people need to put their "freedom" to one side and realise that some things are better when removed from society, no matter how much you love shooting that deer on a Sunday.

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

None of this is necessary if a private citizen is selling a gun they own. No waiting period. No background check. I dont even have to know your name to sell a personally owned gun.

Um, that's bullshit. Unless your firearm is C&R (curio & relic) meaning it's over 50 years old, you bet your ASS you need to go fill out a DROS and go through the same 10 day waiting period and background check. California's gun laws don't fuck around.

 

[andycapps]

I'm assuming the gun was found still in the bag before the sheriff proposed this.

I'd assume the sheriff wasn't at the school when it took place so he could have put in the bag after firing it and then said it was accidental. We'll have to see what happens in their investigation. The kid obviously was breaking a great many laws by bringing a firearm onto school property, having possession of a weapon as a minor, probably some other forms of assault. Depending on what happens with the investigation I'd imagine the parents will be charged in some ways as well.

 

[Magnus]

edit
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[Neuromancer]

Stupid gun laws, people need to put their "freedom" to one side and realise that some things are better when removed from society, no matter how much you love shooting that deer on a Sunday.

Even if the desire was there, how exactly would anyone remove all guns from society? I think that ship has sailed.

Also I liked how you put freedom in quotes. Some people actually take the American Constitution pretty seriously, though.