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3D TVs: does anybody really want this?

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Ninja Scooter said:
i was not impressed with the 3D in Avatar at all aside from the initial novelty. I left the theatre thinking "This was a cool movie, can't wait to see it again on BluRay w/o the 3D"
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I saw Avatar twice and while I'm excited for 3D mostly for games, I agree that with movies it isn't that great. Second time I was in the theater I was barely noticing the 3D effect towards the middle of it, though, it picked up again during the final action scenes.

For games, I tried a couple games on the PC Nvidia thing and Wipeout HD in 3D. Those were more impressive.
 
lawblob said:
Wait a minute, the 3D TVs don't even come with the glasses, and they charge you hundreds of dollars per pair? :lol

Seriously, fuck off with that.
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nobody is forcing anybody to buy one. The tech costs pretty much zero to include on the sets, so when you buy a new TV in the future (maybe a year from now), pretty much all of them will be '3D ready'.

so you';ll have a 3D set even if you don't realise it. Then, when you're ready to jump in, you can just buy some glasses. Prices will be much lower then after the first wave of early adopters.

As for Superbowl parties - I'd expect the glasses to be widely compatible eventually (not initially) so your friends can just bring their own glasses.


I also expect home to be way more compelling for 3D than the cinema. At the cinema you have movies. At home you have movies, sport, and GAMES. Just thinking about the train segments in Uncharted 2 in 3D makes me want it.
 
I don't understand the resistance to this at all. For all of of you who don't give a shit, 2D will still be there for you, no one is forcing you to adopt this. Of course the TV manufacturers realize this is something that can increase sales and are going for it. Some people will find that the premium is worth it, others won't. Over time pricing will go down once economies of scale kick in, and it will be commonplace, and you'll still have a choice not to use it. People waiting for glassless 3D are going to be waiting for a long long time, and I don't want to even think about the pricing for that technology.
 
Just bought a new receiver not too long ago and now it won't work with 3D tvs.

I sure as hell am not going to get another one to get my set up perfect again.
 
3D is the best thing ever. Hopefully next year it will have driven down prices so I can snatch a nice big 1080p plasma for cheap. Without 3D, of course. Haha. It has been completely useless in the theater. Why would I want that crap in my house? I had LCD shutter glasses for my PC a decade ago and the novelty was gone in a matter of weeks.
 
Only tv makers and Hollywood really care about 3d. It's their ace in the hole to raise prices of movies, DVDs,,and have overpriced accessories (although I hope hundreds of dollars for glasses was just a joke)
 
SmokyDave said:
I do find it curious how many people want the world to know they don't want 3D though.
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Reminds me a lot of when HD and Blu-ray just started on the scene. "Why do I need HD? DVD is fine."

Not that it's a perfect analogy but really odd how people seem so interested to proclaim their disinterest. I'm not running out and buying a new TV, but I'm curious to see where it's all heading.
 
People comparing HD skepticism to 3d hate are way off base. Some people weren't convinced that HD was discernibly better, which is dumb I agree, but lots of people actively hate 3d and don't want to look at it. I don't think I ever heard anyone say that HD gave them headaches, hurt their eyes, or emitted a noticeably blurrier image quality.
 
I only recently purchased an HDTV, so I certainly am not interested in purchasing another one for 3D. Secondly, being forced to always wear glasses to watch TV is not something that is appealing to me. Perhaps the second generation of 3D technology will do away with the need for glasses, which might be the time I start becoming interested in 3D.
 
Future said:
Only tv makers and Hollywood really care about 3d. It's their ace in the hole to raise prices of movies, DVDs,,and have overpriced accessories (although I hope hundreds of dollars for glasses was just a joke)
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This could apply to the price of HD tv's and blu-ray movies over old tv's and dvd movies just as much as 3d though.

Granted the prices for the glasses atm are a bit over the top, but then again, if you can drop 3k on a tv, you probably aren't gonna be crying over spending a bit more.

MedHead said:
I only recently purchased an HDTV, so I certainly am not interested in purchasing another one for 3D. Secondly, being forced to always wear glasses to watch TV is not something that is appealing to me. Perhaps the second generation of 3D technology will do away with the need for glasses, which might be the time I start becoming interested in 3D.
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If you could wait until recently before getting a hdtv, then I don't think you need to worry about wearing glasses for watching 3d by the time you are ready for your next tv.
 
I would want it if it was worth it.

In the theater it's cool because I don't go there anymore. I have a better movie experience at home with my HDTV and BRDs. So yeah, 3D would bring me back in the theater but right now they are making a big mistake: 3D is NOT a +value to incitate me coming back, they simply charge more for the ticket.

But anyways, my main problem is that when I watch a movie I really reach high concentration and this makes me totally forget about the 3D. I only notice it for like the first 10 mins. After that time I am so much in the movies that they are all the same, they are all real or 3D or whatever. So the 3D thing really comes as a gimmick to me.

For videogames it could be interesting if it improves the gameplay. Like a racing game where you would perceive the distances more easily. However, I still fear the effect would wear off and therefore I sure wouldn't want to rebuy my living room for this tech.

And lastly, I don't want to wear extra glasses thank you.

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Autostereoscopic 3D seems to have its own set of difficulties (as far as I understand it, all the existing tech will only work from very specific viewing angles). It's a long way from being ready for prime time.
 
3d tvs aren't worth it currently. You have to wear 3d glasses and there isn't enough 3d content currently.

I plan on waiting a few years until you don't need the glasses and there's enough 3d content on cable to make it worthwhile. What are you going to watch in 3d now? Avatar? :lol
 
so not worth it, even james cameron said that a lot of 3d movies arent done properly, and thats why 3d never made it all these years, but if they still continue making crappy 3d movies, hopefully this wont last, but on the other hand their gonna eventually force it down everyones throats im sure. its sad.

i personally dont care about 3d, ill just go watch it in the theaters (like i did with avatar) and leave it at that.
 
How do these TVs work if you're looking at them from any angle other than straight in front of it? Is the 3d effect still there if you look at it from the side?

3D just seems totally unnecessary to begin with, but if it won't even work if you look at the TV from a different angle, then it'll actually be detrimental to the viewing experience.
 
I saw ads for 3D stuff in my weekly best buy/futureshop flyer. I didn't expect the glasses to cost 300 dollars, wtf? Who is going to buy this anytime soon? If I want to watch something with my family or friends, I have to shell out 1200+ on glasses alone? That's insane!
 
Divvy said:
I saw ads for 3D stuff in my weekly best buy/futureshop flyer. I didn't expect the glasses to cost 300 dollars, wtf? Who is going to buy this anytime soon? If I want to watch something with my family or friends, I have to shell out 1200+ on glasses alone? That's insane!
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Holy fuck. Time to start sneaking out of theaters with the glasses and start selling them on eBay. That price is absurd.

Part of the reason this won't catch on easily is not just price, but as you said....everyone in the damn room needs the glasses. Invitin friends over? Hope you have tons of spare sets
 
Future said:
Holy fuck. Time to start sneaking out of theaters with the glasses and start selling them on eBay. That price is absurd.

Part of the reason this won't catch on easily is not just price, but as you said....everyone in the damn room needs the glasses. Invitin friends over? Hope you have tons of spare sets
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The glasses from theaters won't work. They're simply polarized, shutter glasses are different and a lot more complex.
 
Divvy said:
I saw ads for 3D stuff in my weekly best buy/futureshop flyer. I didn't expect the glasses to cost 300 dollars, wtf? Who is going to buy this anytime soon? If I want to watch something with my family or friends, I have to shell out 1200+ on glasses alone? That's insane!
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I saw that too. I'll dive in sooner or later assuming the tech is good and prices drop.
 
3D is far from perfect, but it is not a gimmick. The 3D effect is just another to layer your storytelling. Not everyone has to or should use it, but it's been proven as being useful. It's just as legit as using a wide or telephoto lens for regular 2D films. Those lens aren't necessary, but plenty of directors have proven they can impact something of the storytelling.

As for some people not liking it, or not being able to see it, or hurting their eyes. Not all art is wanted or able to be digested by every person. Those reasons shouldn't stop any director from using it if they think it'll benefit their film.

I have little doubt that eventually most films will use 3d, that won't happen for many years but it will happen.
 
I don't think 3d tv will ever take off in the mainstream until they rid the need to use glasses. Who wants to go over to their friends house or have a party and have to have 20 pairs of glasses to hand around to watch a game?

Even with Avatar, I found myself getting annoyed with the 3d effect about half way through the movie. I wanted to just take my glasses off and watch it regular 2d.
 
I don't really see the need for a 3DTV. I'd rather see improvements to existing tech. There's still a lot of problems with LCD and Plasma that need to be sorted out. Besides the content isn't there and it's not likely to be widely available anytime soon. Hell, there's still a lot of SD being broadcast and I'm willing to bet a majority of the mainstream are still watching SD tube sets. It just seems too soon to try to cram another expensive format down our throats.
 
After playing some 3D games at GDC, I can say I am really excited about this, way more impressed with the games than the movie demo's I saw.
 
Trickster said:
If you could wait until recently before getting a hdtv, then I don't think you need to worry about wearing glasses for watching 3d by the time you are ready for your next tv.
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Yes, that's what I figure, so I'm not worried about it.
 
If the glasses are so much more expensive then is this 3D experience going to be much better than the theater ?
 
It's a very good thing for plasmas! They had to solve the issue with the red, green, and blue elements refreshing at slightly different speeds (which created the yellow flashes and trailing problems). By solving that issue, plasmas could exceed the level of smoothness exhibited by CRTs with absolutely no artifacts in high speed movement at a high framerate.

The need to solve this for 3D has actually improved the technology itself.
 
elrechazao said:
do not want, glasses can gtfo. wake me up when they aren't required anymore.
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according to my calculations so far. . .
(stupid 3D) glasses + T.V = instafail?

edit: do not want!
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I would like one, especially for 3D gaming, but if wouldn't be so bad if after purchasing the (already expense) tv, the damn glasses weren't like $300 a pair itself!

That's ridiculous!
 
I have no problem with 3D as long as:

A) Don't have to wear glasses. Imagine the 3D effect coming directly from the screen without need for any glasses (maybe some kind of filter over the TV or something? Who knows).

B) Said effect doesn't darken the image. I hated putting on those glasses and having the light diminish by 30 to 40% or so.
 
Blatz said:
It seems like 3D is being crammed down our throat these days. To me it is more of a gimmick. Sure the technology has come a long way and it looks good. But I don't need or really even want things to be in 3D. Especially if they weren't originally intended to be 3D, i.e. Burton's Alice movie.

Am I alone here? I just don't understand this 3D "revolution".
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I saw monsters vs aliens in 3d on blu-ray at BB and I was really impressed. If the price was right and there was more content, I'd definitely get one.
 
I want one. But I bought a TV last year and don't plan on getting a new one for ~4 years. By that time 3D will be a standard feature of HDTVs, like 1080p became and 120 Hz is becoming.
 
3d its to soon. I bought an hdtv a year ago, Im not going to expend more money on a tv fo at least one year more. Its fucking expensive, You know that the tech is early and solution without are a few years a way. So for now no 3d tvs for me.
 
No. Its a distracting. It doesn't add anything to the movie watching experience, in fact it takes from it. For something that's supposed to be "immersive" it actually does the exact opposite. Without glasses it might be better.
 
I'll be interested in one when they are cheaper and have more content. I wouldn't really consider it a gimmick. Both Avatar and How to train your Dragon were pretty awesome in 3D. My only complaint would be that it darkens the image a bit too much but hopefully they are working on that.
 
I'm certainly interested. Not for TV as such, more for gaming and movies. I don't know if I can wait for sets to launch though. May just get a normal set as I need a set for a spare room I'm setting up for me and my dog to hang around in. It's been a project in motion for a while now and I'm getting tense. The goggles don't bother me either. As I hinted I won't be sitting around all evening wearing them.

A lot depends on me finally seeing a demo of course. Thusfar my experience is limited to Avatar. Hmm.

As ever with these things if the content providers and TV manufacturers start the ball rolling it'll snowball eventually (IMO).
 
I do want one.

Really bad.

But I don't want to pay a premium of 2000$ on a proper 46" for a simple software update and an IR light in the front.

So it'll be another 2 years before I'll get one...
 
MIMIC said:
I saw a commercial for a 3D TV the other day (I think it was Samsung).

I laughed.
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I saw one, it was Samsung I think, with a manta ray coming out of the TV and swimming around the room. Since when do 3D images fly over your head and continue behind you? If that were the case I'd buy one right now. :lol

I want to see more advancements with OLED sets. That's something I could lust over. :drool:
 
i dont want it myself but they are going to push it out anyways. People already bought all their favorite stuff on DVD so now the race is to put it on BR. When that starts running out of steam then youll have to rebuy everything all over again for some shit 3D effects that are overlayed on X-Files or Transformers or whatever else theyll know people will buy all over again.
 
Revolver said:
I saw one, it was Samsung I think, with a manta ray coming out of the TV and swimming around the room. Since when do 3D images fly over your head and continue behind you? If that were the case I'd buy one right now. :lol

I want to see more advancements with OLED sets. That's something I could lust over. :drool:
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OLEDs aren't coming out in 40'' sizes until 2012. Next year there are going to be some 20'' and 30'' models. I was hoping they would be out sooner.
 
i'm skeptical but if it makes sports cooler, works well videogames without being gimmicky, and puts big porn titties in my face - i'll def bite
 
It will never catch on at the current pricing. $4000CAN for a 42" 3D TV is regoddamndiculous, and then you add on to that $250 for a set of glasses that need to be worn... like WTF? Plus, I hear they have to be recharged all the time as well. And do they fit comfortably over someone's glasses?

Honestly, who in their right mind goes out and thinks "This is best thing to happen to TV's ever!!". I can see it as a Movie Theater thing, that kind of makes sense (though I believe all 3D movies are BS), but to try and adopt that into the mainstream home consumer market, is just crazy.

I heard one person say this was just like the SD to HD change that took place, but ther is no way I can agree. This only adds poor 3D capabilities to an already HD TV...
 
[KoRp]Jazzman said:
It will never catch on at the current pricing. $4000CAN for a 42" 3D TV is regoddamndiculous, and then you add on to that $250 for a set of glasses that need to be worn... like WTF? Plus, I hear they have to be recharged all the time as well. And do they fit comfortably over someone's glasses?

Honestly, who in their right mind goes out and thinks "This is best thing to happen to TV's ever!!". I can see it as a Movie Theater thing, that kind of makes sense (though I believe all 3D movies are BS), but to try and adopt that into the mainstream home consumer market, is just crazy.

I heard one person say this was just like the SD to HD change that took place, but ther is no way I can agree. This only adds poor 3D capabilities to an already HD TV...
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edit sorry this one (46" not 42): http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/id/10140315.aspx

with two glasses it comes to 3200$. Wait a year and get it for $1500 or less.
 
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