More or lessHow big is the Pokemon series in the West versus the East?
How big is the Pokemon series in the West versus the East?
Edited to be more clear.5 million WW?
So this is THE year, Nintendo will finally buy Japan.
No, you don't get get. Monster Hunter was the only reason for PSP revival in Japan. Without it history would be different.
Yep,No, you don't get get. Monster Hunter was the only reason for PSP revival in Japan. Without it history would be different.
But tablets and smartphones.
I wonder if Pachter will acknowledge this at all.
Well done to Nintendo. Hopefully is starts picking up outside of Japan. I think that the closer Nintendo can get the system to the $/£100 mark, the better.
Enterbrain just announced it via Famitsu. 10,068,192 sold as of 1/6/13.
Dotted bars: weekly sales number
Line: cumulative sales number
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201301/08026978.html
Don't forget Dragon Quest 7. I think it's going to be as big as the next Pokemon release.
Pokemon X/Y will sell in 12 hours in Japan more than what Dragon Quest 7 remake will sell in its lifetime worldwide.
it's still not doing well at all in europe, and it's just doing okay in north america.
Imagine what Pokémon is going to do. @_@
And even that's a stretch considering software sales.
But tablets and smartphones.
I wonder if Pachter will acknowledge this at all.
What kind of acknowledgement do you want? The 3DS is absolutely killing it in Japan, and that's not enough to make up for its poor performance in the rest of the world. The global market for gaming handhelds has shrunk dramatically.
"According to EEADRs and Morgans prediction 3DS handily outsold PS3 by some hundred thousand units last month in USA" I'm still not sure what Gaf mean with poor sales (considering also the positive PAL sales they got after the XL launch)
imagine the numbers after we get animal crossing in the US.
Software? In the UK, for example, you'll get only get 3D Land, Kart 7 and NSMB2 charting [often in the bottom half of the Top 40] with any kind of consistency. I'd expect the software situation to be similar in other Western countries if not as extreme as the UK.
On the specific issue of XL, it did less than 10,000 units on it's first week of sale in the UK. In contrast, the original 3DS had set a new sales record for a Nintendo platform [home or portable].
Software? In the UK, for example, you'll get only get 3D Land, Kart 7 and NSMB2 charting [often in the bottom half of the Top 40] with any kind of consistency. I'd expect the software situation to be similar in other Western countries if not as extreme as the UK.
On the specific issue of XL, it did less than 10,000 units on it's first week of sale in the UK. In contrast, the original 3DS had set a new sales record for a Nintendo platform [home or portable].
If the following will be true (and would not be the first time, but the contrary): "According to EEADRs and Morgans prediction 3DS handily outsold PS3 by some hundred thousand units last month in USA" I'm still not sure what Gaf mean with poor sales (considering also the positive PAL sales they got after the XL launch)
November 2005
NDS - 369K
GBA - 820K
PSP - 353K
Total - 1542K
November 2006
NDS - 918K
GBA - 641K
PSP - 412K
Total - 1971K
November 2007
NDS - 1530K
PSP - 567K
Total - 2097K
November 2008
NDS - 1570K
PSP - 421K
Total - 1991K
November 2009
NDS - 1700K
PSP - 294K
Total - 1994K
November 2010
NDS - 1500K
PSP - 288K
Total - 1788K
November 2011
NDS - 350K
3DS - 795K
PSP - ?
Total - ?
November 2012
NDS - 370K
3DS - 540K
PSV - ~220K
Total - 1130K
That's why Vita flies of the shelves there.
First of all, I can't speak for GAF, but I can tell you what I mean by poor sales. I mean that the 3DS continues to miss sales forecasts, even though Nintendo continues to lower them, and is might well still be a money loser for Nintendo. I mean that the 3DS is selling much worse than the previous model, with no sign of this trend abating. I mean that its software sales are absolutely abysmal, while its hardware sales are just weak.
I don't know what happened in the US in December yet, and I find basing discussions on some analyst's guess stupid, but even so: if the market leading gaming handheld, in the prime of its life, managed to outsell a long-in-the-tooth also-ran home console by 100K units, I won't be terribly impressed.
I do know what happened in the US in November. Have a look at the NPD November handheld market, and tell me again you don't know what I mean by poor sales:
Code:November 2005 NDS - 369K GBA - 820K PSP - 353K Total - 1542K November 2006 NDS - 918K GBA - 641K PSP - 412K Total - 1971K November 2007 NDS - 1530K PSP - 567K Total - 2097K November 2008 NDS - 1570K PSP - 421K Total - 1991K November 2009 NDS - 1700K PSP - 294K Total - 1994K November 2010 NDS - 1500K PSP - 288K Total - 1788K November 2011 NDS - 350K 3DS - 795K PSP - ? Total - ? November 2012 NDS - 370K 3DS - 540K PSV - ~220K Total - 1130K
If you take a look at those portable numbers, you can easily see that the main problems compared to the previous years are PSP and Vita numbers.
I agree that they are missing forecast and I think that this is the biggest problem, while it's not true that the 3DS is behind the previous console launches-aligned in the US (I don't know in the PAL territories), and it's not true that it's performing badly in PAL countries (despite the low debut of the XL in the UK) and I don't think that after the launch of the XL Nintendo isn't making money from the project.
About software is a tough topic: I don't think that the actual possible sellers are performing badly on the actual install base, but it's true that there are few games able to appeal the western market.
Despite that, the "potential" seller seem able to sell decently and to help the console to make good overall numbers, also if not great numbers as the DS in its hottest years or the 3DS itself in the Japanese market.
First of all, I can't speak for GAF, but I can tell you what I mean by poor sales. I mean that the 3DS continues to miss sales forecasts, even though Nintendo continues to lower them, and is might well still be a money loser for Nintendo. I mean that the 3DS is selling much worse than the previous model, with no sign of this trend abating. I mean that its software sales are absolutely abysmal, while its hardware sales are just weak.
I don't know what happened in the US in December yet, and I find basing discussions on some analyst's guess stupid, but even so: if the market leading gaming handheld, in the prime of its life, managed to outsell a long-in-the-tooth also-ran home console by 100K units, I won't be terribly impressed.
I do know what happened in the US in November. Have a look at the NPD November handheld market, and tell me again you don't know what I mean by poor sales:
Code:November 2005 NDS - 369K GBA - 820K PSP - 353K Total - 1542K November 2006 NDS - 918K GBA - 641K PSP - 412K Total - 1971K November 2007 NDS - 1530K PSP - 567K Total - 2097K November 2008 NDS - 1570K PSP - 421K Total - 1991K November 2009 NDS - 1700K PSP - 294K Total - 1994K November 2010 NDS - 1500K PSP - 288K Total - 1788K November 2011 NDS - 350K 3DS - 795K PSP - ? Total - ? November 2012 NDS - 370K 3DS - 540K PSV - ~220K Total - 1130K
The software sales are bad. They are down 25% compared to the DS at a comparable point in the lifespan.
3DS software TTM: 47M from quarter ending Sep 2012
NDS software TTM: 63M from quarter ending June 2006
Something something smartphones something something dedicated gaming handhelds something something Japan
So if you are Nintendo, are these numbers going to satisfy you?
Will Nintendo become so region-reliant that they eventually ignore the rest of the world and only concentrate on Japan?
Your not to bright all I see there is the 3DS out performing the NDS in the same period and the Vita floping.
Generation change and Vita flop does not=market crashing.
About software, I remember Frankfurter did a better comparison with datas from launch, and still, you can't just see the raw numbers. You need to see how it is composed. Main example: 3DS software sales are around 15 millions behind DS ones in Japan as of last week, but third party sales are higher (7 v.s. 9), so...yeah, Nintendo games are the main responsible for the lower software sales in Japan by far, because they released far less titles and the "casual" ones aren't doing like on DS at all, and since after seven quarters titles like Brain Training, Nintendogs got released in West too, I can certainly expand this to worldwide software sales.
First of all, I can't speak for GAF, but I can tell you what I mean by poor sales.
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My god, it's perfect.Your not to bright.
And it's not even on the third of its lifespan. Good games ahead for sure!
Your not to bright all I see there is the 3DS out performing the NDS in the same period and the Vita floping.
Generation change and Vita flop does not=market crashing.
How big is the Pokemon series in the West versus the East?
My god, it's perfect.
It was bigger (to general population) in the past if we consider the Pokemon cards phase, everyone in my school was obsessed over collecting Pokemon Cards, some people got stabbed around my area because they had a rare card, crazy shit.
But the New Pokemon will surely be popular.
Pokémon is serious business.
Looking at this great result for 3DS, a question is still there, why is PSV such a huge failure compared to PSPs first year in a handheld loving market?
They have no first party system sellers and the only hopes they had at relevance slipped through their fingers when MonHun and Dragon Quest went to the 3DS.Looking at this great result for 3DS, a question is still there, why is PSV such a huge failure compared to PSPs first year in a handheld loving market?
They have no first party system sellers and the only hopes they had at relevance slipped through their fingers when MonHun and Dragon Quest went to the 3DS.
As I understand it.