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On paper. In reality the black levels are ruined by va gamma shift and gamma va cone.VA panels have superior contrast and black levels compared to IPS panels
Everything is worse to.
There is nothing va does better in the end
On paper. In reality the black levels are ruined by va gamma shift and gamma va cone.VA panels have superior contrast and black levels compared to IPS panels
Story of my life.You can apply the same logic to 1080p. 1080p on 21 inch screen looks great. But 1440p on 70 inch TV looks like complete ass.
Viewing distance matters. Screen size matters.
I have 3 4K LG OLED at home. Sure on my 65´ CX 4K look awesome but to me I rather use my 3090 to pump more frame on my 1440p 240hz monitor.Are you one of those guys who said the same thing about 1080p 10 years ago?
Are you trolling again? Ips is garbage!On paper. In reality the black levels are ruined by va gamma shift and gamma va cone.
Everything is worse to.
There is nothing va does better in the end
Look up at what I wrote.I'm sure it's been mentioned, but you're sitting right in front of a monitor.
Try playing on a 65-77 inch oled in a normal room, and tell me how 1440p is the same as 4k. Higher resolution makes a dramatic difference the further you move back and the larger the screen is
I'm not a PC gamer but I think we should specify if we're on a monitor or TV when discussing resolution. The reason being that usually when I see someone saying that 1440p looks 'amazing they are PC gamers on a good monitor that's much smaller than a good 4k tv.4K obviously looks better and there is absolutely no disputing that. However, it’s simply not worth it for the frame rate hit in most games. 1440p still looks amazing and you can still get great FPS.
I have an older Oled model but the reason 1080p looks good to you is undoubtedly due to your eyesightI think my 55" LG CX does a wonderful job up-scaling 1080p content.. 1080p games still look great from a reasonable 8-10 foot distance.
Also my eyesight is kinda fucked up these last few years.. so take that as you will
Panel quality is certainly king, I think for the foreseeable future, that's going to be the improvement for a good while in viewing experience, barring hdr or even dolby vision standards becoming more ubiquitousI have a not cheap 144 hertz ultra wide 34" LG and an LG c1 OLED. The vibrancy on the OLED colors is just exponentially better. I will not play any games that can be played with a controller on the monitor. It's just plain ugly in comparison, and a much bigger upgrade than 1440p to 2160p or 60 hz to 144 hertz.
Yup, 720p on the steam deck looks perfect.You can apply the same logic to 1080p. 1080p on 21 inch screen looks great. But 1440p on 70 inch TV looks like complete ass.
Viewing distance matters. Screen size matters.
Yeah 8k is dumb. Marketing gimmick, it'll never be mass adopted.I'm sure they'll make a run at 8k, but I think it will last as long as 3d home sets lol
I'm not sure what the average sofa distance is, but I've been to family and friends houses that brag about their new high end TV and it's 3.5 feet above eye level and 14+ feet backYeah 8k is dumb. Marketing gimmick, it'll never be mass adopted.
You need 70inches at the average sofa distance to even notice 4k.
Yeah. No 20/20 vision here. Never had any bigger issues with 1080p on a 24” screen tbh, can see pixels but it’s not a big deal. And I just went up to 1440p 27” yesterday. The resolution is not what’s making me go wow. Like at all. The big difference is going up in screen size and not having a screen with 8 year old screen tech. That’s what I’m taking away from all this.I have an older Oled model but the reason 1080p looks good to you is undoubtedly due to your eyesight
Biggest issue few talk about with higher resolution. The framerate.
With DLSS Off the framerate in Cyberpunk goes dooooown. About 30-35fps in a crowded city area with my poor 3070 Ti.
With DLSS Quality I get 57-65fps.
Absolutely va is garbage and I am not trolling. I am kinda an expert on this.Are you trolling again? Ips is garbage!
I’m not a developer so can’t really comment on whether or not it would have been possible to get 4K60 on either of the games you mentioned.I'm not a PC gamer but I think we should specify if we're on a monitor or TV when discussing resolution. The reason being that usually when I see someone saying that 1440p looks 'amazing they are PC gamers on a good monitor that's much smaller than a good 4k tv.
I'm sure 1440p does look amazing on a monitor but it really doesn't on a 4k tv. There's good reason why too. Not only is 1440 sub native for that TV (half!) so no matter what the image is still being stretched but then you've got 55/65/75 inch tvs that it has to get stretched for.
1440p doesn't look amazing on my 55 inch oled. It just looks decent to 'goot enough'. Then again I am someone who notices these differences and I put a lot of importance on image quality. I'm the type of guy who switches back and forth between fidelity and performance modes just to see the differences, and I'm always a little disappointed by the softness and loss of some of the fine detail that comes with 1440p.
We were stuck at 1080p and lower resolutions for so long that when 4k tvs came out 1440p was still considered a big improvement but now 4k has been a part of our lives for a long time to the point where it's universally accepted that 1080p looks bad on a 4k tv. So why should 1440p be anything other than average in 2022. Uncharted 4 remaster/gta 5 remasters to me are extremely disappointing. You telling me Naughty Dog and Rockstar couldn't get those working at something better than 1440p/60? Especially GTA being a 360 game I was shocked that was the best they could do after two generations of more powerful hardware.
It's mostly down to softness and a loss of detail.
Absolutely va is garbage and I am not trolling. I am kinda an expert on this.
Va have so many problems over god ips
Are you trolling again? Ips is garbage!
Lol nothing is garbage come on. Not even my old TN from 2014 was garbage.Absolutely va is garbage and I am not trolling. I am kinda an expert on this.
Va have so many problems over god ips
It’s okay with gsync, can’t see those drops. My point is how would it have performed on a 4K screen? I think it’s easy to fall into a trap where you spend more than you need on a screen and then has to spend more than you want on upgrades to run games well on your new screen.yooo, you should look into Digital Foundry's optimized settings, I get only slightly worse performance than that on my 3060ti... I think you can turn down some unneccessary settings to claw back some performance there to at least lock to 60fps with DLSS
What? Va looses hugely on response times. It’s the worst thing about va. What are you smokinginput lag and pixel response is king, and VA wins on both
IPS is the "nicer to look at" one, but for gaming VA is simply better
What? Va looses hugely on response times. It’s the worst thing about va. What are you smoking
What bs is that?IPS vs VA vs TN
notice how the horizontal line of the G basically touches the vertical line on the IPS, while on VA and TN the gap is way clearer visible
What bs is that?
You realise these are backlight strobing pictures?
There is nothing to discuss. It’s not my opinion. It’s a fact. Va is terrible for viewing angles, gamma handling and pixel response times
Console user?I ain't playing no 1440p on my LG 83"oled I game at 4k at either 120hz or 60hz if the game is locked.
If anything I want more pixels for the 60hz games like elden ring.
You shouldn’t generalize like that. They sum it up at the section after:IPS vs VA vs TN
notice how the horizontal line of the G basically touches the vertical line on the IPS, while on VA and TN the gap is way clearer visible
Ips has grey blacks, clouding, extremely poor uniformity on larger TV's. Did I mention terrible black level.Absolutely va is garbage and I am not trolling. I am kinda an expert on this.
Va have so many problems over god ips
VA pcture details will always darken or smear. The night sky test failed on every va I had/tried. The starts always dim when moving the camera. And 2d games like binding of isaac always showed ghosting with va.Ips has grey blacks, clouding, extremely poor uniformity on larger TV's. Did I mention terrible black level.
On a good VA panel there isn't any smearing. On both ips and va there will be some motion blur, though yes some va panels have some extra trailing i.e. Sony x940e Bravia.
My x900e has excellent motion, the best LCD tv I've ever seen for motion and has no black trailing.
There is a reason all the enthusiast TV's use VA panels, ips is reserved for low end stuff and lg LCD, because well they produce ips panels themselves.
As for monitors, they have been crappy for a very long time.
Never ever seen smearing on my 900e Sony Tv. Maybe on monitors ips is preferred, couldn't say as I've been using TV's for PC gaming for years. Hardware unboxed recommends many va type monitors though.VA pcture details will always darken or smear. The night sky test failed on every va I had/tried. The starts always dim when moving the camera. And 2d games like binding of isaac always showed ghosting with va.
But even setting motion aside, since 144hz and strobing DO HELP a lot... the gamma shift ruins any picture qualities there could be and this is not fixable on va.
Edges are brighter than middle which usually is too dark. And clouding galore is always worst on va.
Good ips, especially 4k panels or with glossy coating can have very good perceived contrast, no clouding AT ALL and handle motion better.,
Look. This was result of my 2 years (about 12 monitors) search back in 2019. Lg 4k ips was the winner when it comes to contrast/ips glow and clouding.
This is a very good result for an IPS: lg 27uk650 (i had 2). I will spare you all shitty 1440p, tn and va pictures.
But these days, all 1440p ips panels have IPS glow (not angle dependant) in at least 1 corner.
I am not arguing for ips lol. Fuck all that lcd crap ayway.Never ever seen smearing on my 900e Sony Tv. Maybe on monitors ips is preferred, couldn't say as I've been using TV's for PC gaming for years. Hardware unboxed recommends many va type monitors though.
Nothing can fix ips contrast, not even many local dimming zones. Lg nano cell with near 2000 zones looks like complete garbage, super cloudy and grey blacks.
I am not arguing for ips lol. Fuck all that lcd crap ayway.
I got OLED for a reason!