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4K TV owners without HDR

xCaptainCanadax said:
Having not seen HDR in person that I can recall it seems like a very high contrast mode...but I'm sure its more than that.
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It reminds me of those pictures/paintings that have led lights behind them to highlight certain things, if youve ever seen one of those. For instance an overhead view of a city at night, the lights from all the buildings look like there are super bright individual leds for each one against a non lit background.
 
black070 said:
As in will an 8bit panel benefit at all from HDR gaming as opposed to a TV without HDR at all ? I've read conflicting answers.
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I'm in same boat. So many conflicting things online, kind of a pain to look into. More I look seems I have an 8bit panel but is wide color gamut (Samsung JS7000), not sure what deal will be with HDR.

Based on demo vids on YouTube some stuff looks fantastic but some of the HDR demos (Sony camp one) were pretty eh.
 
I have a Sony 50W805B (fullhd only) and when I play pc games on it, it shows 1080p/10-bit, what is that suppose to mean? I thought 10bit color had something to do with hdr.
 
I waited for 4K tvs to go on sale

Then, I waited for 4k 60hz tvs to go on sale

Now, I wait for 4K HDR tvs to go on sale

When will it end?
 
So does anyone else have this dilemma? I have the One S which I have plugged into my 4k@60hz hdmi port on my tv. Its my dedicated 4k media box (uhd player) Of course it's the only port on the tv that supports this. The other hdmi ports do 4k@30. When I upgrade my OG PS4 to the PS4 Pro this will be a problem...won't it. :(
 
I'm in this boat too. I got a 2015 Vizio M series. It had 4k60, which I thought was all I needed, but no HDR.

Well, bargaining or not, I mostly play on PC with a monitor anyway. Will HDR monitors ever be a thing?

Karish said:
So want those 2015 M series upgrade rumors to be true
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????

Edit: Oh, I see. Seems like wishful thinking.
 
I'm perfectly happy with my 75" 4k Vizio. I won't care to upgrade until I can afford a 4k OLED HDR capable set at 75" or higher. Maybe in a about 5 years?

ruddiger7 said:
Bought an LG TV with both kinds or HDR cause I am not retarded and do my research.
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So is this the kind of language we're using here now?
 
xCaptainCanadax said:
Having not seen HDR in person that I can recall it seems like a very high contrast mode...but I'm sure its more than that.
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HDR displays a much wider range of colors displayed within the still limited color display Vs. what the human eye can see. This helps images seem more natural to what you might see in the real world.

Additionally, it allows luminosity to be more accurately depicted and details aren't nearly lost as much between the lights and darks on the same screen at the same time as they are on sets without HDR. It is much more than a play with contrast.
 
Akala said:
I'm in same boat. So many conflicting things online, kind of a pain to look into. More I look seems I have an 8bit panel but is wide color gamut (Samsung JS7000), not sure what deal will be with HDR.

Based on demo vids on YouTube some stuff looks fantastic but some of the HDR demos (Sony camp one) were pretty eh.
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You can't have an 8bit panel that displays wide colour gamut.
You can however have an 8bit panel that accepts a 10bit signal . My Panasonic plasma will even accept a 12bit signal from the Xbox One
I wouldn't worry about it though as Xbox One S doesn't use WCG fo games and I doubt the regular PS4 will either.
 
CyberChulo said:
Sony 75940C.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/kd75x9405c-201508314160.htm
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Ah. I mean as far as I am aware, last years models that received firmware updates to support hdr don't have the peak brightness and contrast ratio for hdr to truely shine. Even some of this years models don't have great hdr performance, such as the sony 850d.

In my research and personal experience, the only sets on the market right now with really superb hdr performance are the samsung ks8000, the vizio p series, and the lg OLEDs (c6,b6,e6)
 
Mesharey said:
What's this 8bit &10 thingy now?
I know my TV supports HDR but what about these numbers?
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http://hdguru.com/whats-a-10-bit-tv-and-is-it-better/

Here’s why 10-bit LCDs will be (and are) cool, and what they mean for the future of TVs.

Nearly all current TVs are “8-bit.” Some may advertise that they’re more, but they’re all inherently 8, as that’s what our TV system is based on.

What this means is the TV is capable of 256 shades of color, for each of the three primary colors: 256 shades of red, 256 shades of green, and 256 shades of blue. (It’s actually a little bit less than 256, but let’s stick with that to make our math easier.)

So with our current TV system, it means there’s a possible 16.8 million colors (256x256x256=16,777,216). That may seem like a lot, but it’s actually not. The human eye can see way more.
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I'm in the same boat. Bought my XBR65X850B at the time new TVs were coming out soon but couldn't wait since it was Super Bowl week.
 
I'm in this boat. The family was doing the full court press and couldn't wait for the spec to finalize. Sucks, but I don't think anyone but me cares. :-(
 
Badenergytroll said:
From AVS:

"All 2015 M series have 10bit panel which are capable of Wide Color Gamut."

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They might be able to add HDR to the M Series. But not great HDR. It will barely pass certification by a nose!
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Huh, well this is a pleasant surprise. Can't believe I (barely) have an HDR set after all! Not gonna get my hopes up quite yet, but let's see if Vizio has any surprises in store...
 
I need a big hug. Purchased the 2014 XBR65x950B top of the line Sony tv in 2014. It's the only tv Sony carried into 2015 unchanged. They've announced they are updating all 2015 TVs via firmware to support HDR except mine.

To add insult to injury my TV cost me $5,500, actually has a full array local dimming AND can produce over 900 nits, more than most tvs that support HDR today!

I'm salty.

Edit: Don't get me wrong the picture quality and colors are still ace but no HDR is a bummer, especially since I have a PS4 Pro coming. :(
 
nycgamer4ever said:
I need a big hug. Purchased the 2014 XBR65x950B top of the line Sony tv in 2014. It's the only tv Sony carried into 2015 unchanged. They've announced they are updating all 2015 TVs via firmware to support HDR except mine.

To add insult to injury my TV cost me $5,500, actually has a full array local dimming AND can produce over 900 nits, more than most tvs that support HDR today!

I'm salty.

Edit: Don't get me wrong the picture quality and colors are still ace but no HDR is a bummer, especially since I have a PS4 Pro coming. :(
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My bro bought a 75" Sammy SUHD in 2014 for $10k. Don't feel bad.
 
MazeHaze said:
Ah. I mean as far as I am aware, last years models that received firmware updates to support hdr don't have the peak brightness and contrast ratio for hdr to truely shine. Even some of this years models don't have great hdr performance, such as the sony 850d.

In my research and personal experience, the only sets on the market right now with really superb hdr performance are the samsung ks8000, the vizio p series, and the lg OLEDs (c6,b6,e6)
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True. But the 850D is and edge lit display. The 940c is a FALD which is capable of much higher brightness than what the 850D can display. It's comparable to this years 940D.
 
Darklor01 said:
My bro bought a 75" Sammy SUHD in 2014 for $10k. Don't feel bad.
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Damn.. I mean I don't really feel bad just a little left out. I love being in first on the new tech so I guess that has it's positives and negatives. TV is still great so I can't complain but damn Sony give me a firmware update or an upgrade box!!!
 
My JS8500 supports HDR but it doesn't meet the new 2016 standard of 1000 nits of brightness - I think it's only around 500-600 nits.

I've watched some HDR content from Amazon and while it's nice - it doesn't seem like a HUGE difference in my mind, but perhaps that's because my TV doesn't meet the 2016 standard.
 
MazeHaze said:
Ah. I mean as far as I am aware, last years models that received firmware updates to support hdr don't have the peak brightness and contrast ratio for hdr to truely shine. Even some of this years models don't have great hdr performance, such as the sony 850d.

In my research and personal experience, the only sets on the market right now with really superb hdr performance are the samsung ks8000, the vizio p series, and the lg OLEDs (c6,b6,e6)
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My understanding is that Vizio uses HDR Dolby Vision, which isn't compatible with the PS4 Pro, so while it may look good, it won't be useful for us as gamers.
 
My samsumg UN48JU6700GXZD doesn't have HDR, it seems cool, but the price for 4k HDR tvs here (Brazil) are absurd and not really near worth the effort and while i play some games from my PC at 4k resolution, I don't really see that much of a difference for 1080p, not much gain imo.
I'm not really that picky, for me the regular ps4 games already look spectacular, and dont really understand the benefit of HDR or 4k, I consider myself a pretty hardcore gamer but won't botter with PS4 Pro or even a better TV for it, already pretty happy with my setup.
 
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