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[timetokill]

Why do people only talk about this issue in the context of schools?

Shouldn't it be an issue in any place that sees a lot of human traffic within an enclosed space? Walmart, the grocery store, the church, the subway station, etc.?

Mainly because kids are the ones most at risk. Schools are breeding grounds for disease and quick transmission. Adults today are generally vaccinated.

If this anti-vax trend continues, though, we will definitely have to worry about adults. We'll have to worry about everyone.

That's why this has to be nipped in the bud right away.

 

[SuperChoco]

I'm honestly surprised that the number isn't higher than 66. Palm Desert High has a student population of about 2.5k iirc. I also wonder how this is going to affect the other schools in the Coachella Valley.

I'm also concerned about the ease of vaccination for children of undocumented citizens, though I think that the majority of them have probably been vaccinated.

 

[Rebel Leader]

Do people really think that vaccinations cause autism? Just...how?! Thats insanity.

As a someone who is part of the spectrum I just cant understand how someone could believe my life long ailment was caused by goddamn vaccines.

And this has become widespread?

Let's imagine it does cause autism.....

 

[AlexBasch]

I live in Nuevo León, a state near Texas and the state Health Secretary called us reporters to a press meeting about the rising of measles cases in California and a travel warning for the NL citizens.

A woman from our state traveled over there and went back with measles symptoms, basically because she lacked the vaccine that is basically mandatory for children within six months and a year after being born, so there was this travel warning to people that might not have the vaccine and take the shot before going there.

Asked him about those measles being different from, well, the usual ones and if it had anything to do with the anti-vaccination movement from parents. The secretary said that it was part of it, but also, that without medical insurance getting a shot is pretty much difficult or impossible. Was he correct? My state is measles free since 1990 and the last case was around 1988, according to their numbers.

Vaccination is pretty much a given, either health workers have campaigns in schools or you can go straight to get one (I just got a influenza one in their bulding a few days ago) and it's completely free. Had that question all week long, since I don't know anything about how health and vaccines are managed in the US.

And yes, he even said that "those studies that link vaccines with autism are invalid, they can't prove the link between one thing and the other, how can you "get autism" anyway?" Or something like that. Then he bashed Twitter and Facebook, haha.

 

[Omegasquash]

What's interesting is that it's not even Texas or some shit but fucking California.

Rick Perry pushed through a law to vaccinate girls against HPV, if I'm not mistaken. No questions, no bullshit, just pushed it right through.

 

[AlexBasch]

Rick Perry pushed through a law to vaccinate girls against HPV, if I'm not mistaken. No questions, no bullshit, just pushed it right through.

Hah, we had something like that down here. Some parents went full "are you calling our girls whores or something". Holy shit.

 

[SaganIsGOAT]

We should just take all the unvaccinated kids and their parents, and push them somewhere else!

 

[linkboy]

Nothing pisses me off more than this stupid "movement"

Fucking ignorant assholes.

 

[tm24]

The outbreaks are happening in mostly liberal areas yea.

Just like to point out that Palm Desert is more or less the Republican base for the Coachella Valley. It's trapped on both sides by Palm Springs, which is blue and Indio/Coachella which with it's growing Latino voter population has pretty much turned the area blue.

But yes, it's really affluent

I also wonder how this is going to affect the other schools in the Coachella Valley..

I fully expect their to be a case in LQ any week now

 

[Mael]

Are you telling me that these people who are antivax don't know how vaccination works?
As in they don't know what antibodies are or mutations or stuffs like that?
We're sure these people are educated?

 

[DoktorEvil]

Why do people only talk about this issue in the context of schools?

Shouldn't it be an issue in any place that sees a lot of human traffic within an enclosed space? Walmart, the grocery store, the church, the subway station, etc.?

You're not gonna go up to joe blow in Walmart and ask them when their last measles and chicken pox shots were, even though I often have to question when the last time some people have even washed their hands.

In a school though, there are more opportunities for kids to spread germs and disease and they are confined in a space where in can spread very easily.

 

[Zoe]

Mainly because kids are the ones most at risk. Schools are breeding grounds for disease and quick transmission. Adults today are generally vaccinated.

If this anti-vax trend continues, though, we will definitely have to worry about adults. We'll have to worry about everyone.

That's why this has to be nipped in the bud right away.

People bring their children to all of those places though.

I know it's just TV, but SVU episode about this had a public park as the epicenter. Even home-schooled kids join groups and go out for community activities.

 

[timetokill]

People bring their children to all of those places though.

I know it's just TV, but SVU episode about this had a public park as the epicenter. Even home-schooled kids join groups and go out for community activities.

Agreed, but I think schools are going to be more commonly exposed in greater numbers. Plus, you can practically legislate a change there. You can't realistically do vaccine checks on the way into a park or Walmart.

 

[eudaemonic]

Friend of mine... her dad is 70 and suspected of having measles. He's pretty sure he was vaccinated but never got a booster and that's what makes us think it is measles. Anyway, the doctor refuses to see him because he doesn't want it to spread yet won't make a house call to make sure it is measles and to check on him in general because of his age. His only medical advice was "stay in your house for two weeks".

I understand not wanting to expose others to it but at the same time, I feel like you're a shitty doctor if you're not concerned about your patient outside of telling them not to spread it. Just stay in your house and don't be a burden to society. I feel like we do that to our older community enough.

 

[Fj0823]

"She's a mom like me!! I can totally identify with her!!" yeah .......

**looks his cartilla nacional de vacunacion

Sometimes, I fucking love MEXICO

We have them in Costa Rica too.
Good fucking luck finding a school without one

 

[SURGEdude]

It's not ignorance in the traditional sense, it's well-researched psuedo-science garbage.

Which is why it will be so much harder to counter. These aren't just people who don't know the facts, they are people who are 100% positive they are right. The chances of changing their minds is about the same as turning Dick Cheney into a liberal.