No way, man! I just got me some awesome bike wheels thanks to the ads. (⌐■_■
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No way, man! I just got me some awesome bike wheels thanks to the ads. (⌐■_■
Ken Masters
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that's are my main issue, they are big and distracting, and on an iPhone screen it takes up way to much space
I'd easily pay for a neogaf app
Keylime
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Am I alone in this, or does anyone else use the NeoGAF bubble to go back out of a forum list and select a different section of the forum instead of using the menu options? It's like the app trains me to use the bubble as a back button in all situations so I use it to back up to the top level forum selection and jump back down from there.
I feel stupid doing it, but realistically it's the same number of taps to get the same job done (assuming you are on the thread listing part of a sub-forum). You either tap the bubble, then tap the forum section...or tap the menu, then tap the forum section.
As long as your connection is decent there really isn't a performance difference (since the bubble reloads the forum listing) and it's a consistent user experience.
I feel stupid doing it, but realistically it's the same number of taps to get the same job done (assuming you are on the thread listing part of a sub-forum). You either tap the bubble, then tap the forum section...or tap the menu, then tap the forum section.
As long as your connection is decent there really isn't a performance difference (since the bubble reloads the forum listing) and it's a consistent user experience.
I don't like the way it look but functionally you can do a lot more in the mockup.
At least I can go to OT community in the mockup so mockup 4LYFE.
J Tourettes
Banned
Might be a quirk of iPhone users as I use(d, pre dropping in the toilet) the back button on my GS2.
edgefusion
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Same, ads take up too much space in an environment where screen real estate is at an absolute premium. I would happily pay to get them removed though.
Keylime
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Does the back button reload the previous page or just redisplay the cached page?
My GAF bubble behavior is:
- In thread, using it to go back to forum thread listing and viewing the updated list of threads (in your use case, the list of threads wouldn't be updated unless the back button refreshes)
- In the thread listing, using it to go back to forum section selection (in your use case, the back button would put you back in a thread if you just came from one, but would work if you just came from the forum selection screen)
Don't think it's really the same.
I think the main point of this new 'design' is to get away from the iOS centric layout, since the webapp is being used across a bunch of different devices now. That and ads, to make it official. Well worth (both) 'sacrifices', imo. Obviously i'd still love to pay in some way to remove the ads, but 'lore is against such a thing (admirably, and understandably so), but it could become an option later down the line iirc.
Yeah, I would keep a thin browser window open running the mobile version just to see the top threads/subscriptions/etc at a glance, almost like a twitter feed window. If I could, anyway.
Definitely not. Like you said, as someone who uses a not-so-speedy internet connection (or 3G/on-the-go connections), tapping the menu button to access the other boards is the faster option, regardless of how many taps it takes in comparison. Plus, of course, you're talking about doing that when browsing the board/forum, but do you go back twice when in-thread versus the menu options?
Keylime
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It's probably more that my GAF browsing flowchart with the new forum sections is currently:
- Go to webapp
- Choose OT
- Browse OT threads (if any peak interest)
- Repeat until all OT threads of interest have been replied to or read
- Jump into Forum Section listing
- Decide if I feel like checking in on OT community or Gaming community sections
- Browse that section (if any peak interest)
- Repeat until all section threads of interest have been replied to or read
- Jump into Forum Section listing
- Choose the other sub-forum that I didn't pick the first time
- Browse that section until completion
- Jump into Forum Section listing
- Choose OT
- Repeat repeat repeat
...basically exhausting all the threads in a given section before moving on to the others. Because of this pattern, I always want to go back from inside a thread to the main thread listing section to see what changes have been made (has anyone replied to any of my posts, has a new thread been created, has an older thread been bumped that I want to read) and only if there is nothing new that I want to dig into do I want to go back to the forum listings. Basically I always will be jumping to the forum selection screen from the thread listing page...so for me it's always an equivalent number of taps to get into a new section (whether I pick the menu option or the GAF bubble)
Don't tell me you don't use Subscriptions Rubx...
Different strokes I guess, but that's an interesting insight into browsing habits regardless. I usually just have an OT tab and a community (OT) tab that I switch between.
That and (when it was working up-to-date) a self-search of my username whenever I get back and there's a ton of new threads to browse through. Rarely use subs, but that's begun to change with with this mockup.
On main-gaf I usually open the past 5-7 OT board pages and browse them, when I wake up or return after a long enough break (versus using subs).
Keylime
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Nope! I only browse what's on the first couple pages of any given forum section.
Only rarely do I use Google search to hunt down threads that I remember from some time ago to see if there's been any activity at all that I may have missed.
Sounds like I'm doing it wrong
Yeah, before they had disabled the search I used to bookmark the 'Find all posts by xxx' to bring up all topics I had replied to.
Meh, to each his own I guess.Nope! I only browse what's on the first couple pages of any given forum section.
Only rarely do I use Google search to hunt down threads that I remember from some time ago to see if there's been any activity at all that I may have missed.
Sounds like I'm doing it wrong
I'll let it pass cause I've deciphered your tag
I just find it extremely comfortable to go to the User CP and have all threads I'm interested which have been updated listed there. Saves me down tracking down topics I'm really interested in and participate in constantly.
I need to clean out all the stuff in my subs that have accumulated over the years which I no longer have interest for. That and change my subscription settings on what to follow/notify me on etc.
I'm finding myself using it a little bit more on the mobile side though.
I think we're the only ones doing it right. Feels good.Sounds like I'm doing it wrong
Confession: I never use multi-quote on GAF prime. Ever. I did a bit in the beginning, but for some reason I kept reverting back to good 'ol copy/paste. I got too used to it from before multi-quote, so it stuck with me. I open 'quote' from various posts in new tabs, type out whatever in each tab, and then copy paste each one into the other for a single post. That's how i'm making this post right now, actually.
But of course i've been using the muti-quote feature on the mockup a ton.
Guilty of this. I never managed to get used to it. Also, whoops, thread derailed. Apologies.
J Tourettes
Banned
Redisplays the cached page.
Isn't that..... sort of the point?
It fetches the latest version of that page. Same thing with the shortcut menu. It always fetches the most recent list of threads.
Hm. That should only happen if your browser is too aggressive at caching. On iOS devices, clicking a standard link always re-fetches the page. It doesn't just load it from your cache.
That "chip" is present in the full-size logo as well. It just stands out more against the dark blue of the web app's top bar.
J Tourettes
Banned
Not tried for a while though so it may well do. Currently phoneless.
woahitsreeo
Member
2 nitpicks/questions...
Will there be a menu button and footer bar on the preferences page?
Never quite understood the empty space on the bottom of new reply pages.
One suggestion...
An info/about button leading to OT2 (with an op of features/instructions/easter eggs) or this thread should be integrated like the tools button on the main forum selection page.
Will there be a menu button and footer bar on the preferences page?
Never quite understood the empty space on the bottom of new reply pages.
One suggestion...
An info/about button leading to OT2 (with an op of features/instructions/easter eggs) or this thread should be integrated like the tools button on the main forum selection page.
I'd rather not. There are several reasons but the main one being that I don't want to make it easy for other people to start running their own ad-less, unsupported web apps. Nothing stops someone from building what I did (short of a take-down notice from the mods) but giving out my code would make it too easy for copycat sites to spring up.
If you're just curious about how it works in general, I don't mind answering a few technical questions.
charlequin
Banned
The exact mechanisms here are still in process, but the goal is to let people on phones or tablets save their preference and use the site of their choice (mobile or prime.) We're not going to be supporting the reverse on desktop browsers, though.
You've got like four more days with it, so make sure your time is well spent! Take it to Disneyland or something.
Keylime
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Just to be clear, I think he's talking about hitting the back button on his browser, not the GAF bubble.
The GAF bubble is what I use to pull up a fresh list of threads as you mention so no problems there from me.
chickdigger802
Banned
a bit offtopic, but are there any greasemonkey scripts for the 'desktop site' that can do the whole 'go to the last unread post'?
Keylime
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Native functionality. Click the GAF ball in front of the thread title.
chickdigger802
Banned
FUCK. hail the gafball.
should be a sticky, someone get to work.You and me need a GAF manual it seems
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
FWIW on the SEARCH page there are two typos. It says SEARCY.
Also clicking on a member's profile only gives you the link to his threads history (that is if he ever made a thread of course), while is missing (?) the link to his post history.
Also clicking on a member's profile only gives you the link to his threads history (that is if he ever made a thread of course), while is missing (?) the link to his post history.
^Yeah, I just noticed that when navigating to search from the main page. It doesn't show up anywhere else but here; http://secondapps.com/mockup/search.php
She's taking over everywhere!
Funny how the first thread I checked with /mockup was the NY bike thief one and I thought "nice, he already got the ads working", lol.This should be ckohler's image tag once this is done, it's only apt.
BuggyDClown
Member
Wish the ads were high res, they muck up the whole look on retina.
That isn't a real ad. It's an image placeholder.
Neuromancer
Member
Can't even tell you guys how many quality bike wheels I've bought over the last couple weeks.
Ckohler says that it's a placeholder, but I'd bet the bank that he's swimming in cash right now from Bike Wheels ad revenue.
Keylime
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Pretty sure ther answer is "deal with it" but I'm not digging the whole experience of "jump to last unread post" as it exists right now.
When you click on the arrow and the page is loading, it starts our all good: you go to the post you want and can start reading. Then as the page loads, your positions starts getting jumped all over the place. As I try to move away, the browser keeps getting ripped back to that original post.
I'm guessing this is a "and that's why I removed the functionality from the native app last time" thing, but figured I'd mention it in case there is a workaround coming up or any fix that could be made. Worst case I'd just go back to "last page" functionality instead.
When you click on the arrow and the page is loading, it starts our all good: you go to the post you want and can start reading. Then as the page loads, your positions starts getting jumped all over the place. As I try to move away, the browser keeps getting ripped back to that original post.
I'm guessing this is a "and that's why I removed the functionality from the native app last time" thing, but figured I'd mention it in case there is a workaround coming up or any fix that could be made. Worst case I'd just go back to "last page" functionality instead.
Dude, ckohler explicitly stated this before integrating it. Hell, I remember this being the reason he didn't want to add it in to begin with, but since everyone was begging for it, we got it.
I'll find the post later, but basically it's because there are photos loading after the rest of the page loads, often shifting around the exact position on the page. It's better that it's there at all imo.
[edit] Found it;
PS. I haven't had issues with it too much, as even when using it on my laptop (and perhaps this is due more to my internet speeds) going to the last unread on prime gaf sometimes gets me jumped.
Keylime
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Yep, I remember all that. Wasn't sure if it was added back in because it was fixed or if it's just an option if we want it.
Looks like I'll go back to last page functionality...and I was just getting used to this last unread thing!
It's a limitation of mobile browsers and slow connection speeds right now. It's still the best new feature of the updated web app, bar none.
Last post stuff works fine when you have images turned off
Exactly. I was going to respond saying that it was because of images.
When pages load, they expand as necessary as the images come in. Not sure if there is a way around this or not. Might be able to set placeholder spaces while images are being downloaded, I'm not sure.
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