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[shortsFortallPeople]

So, i'm wrapping up Case 4 in AA2 and was wondering:

Should i play AA3 on the 3DS through the 3DS trilogy?

I've read that there are missing frames of animation BUT the game lets you skip text without having to read it once, meaning i won't get stuck with stuff like the clown's laugh in the 3DS version like i was in AA2 on the DS. I also tend to read much faster than it takes to populate the speech bubbles unless Wendy Oldbag is losing it, then i just give up lol.

I mean how bad is the animation stuff really?

 

[somotodsyo]

I haven't played the original DS game, but can't say I noticed anything weird with the animation on the Trilogy. It might be a bit expensive if you've already played the first two though.

 

[samn]

Rip the game onto a DS flash card then enable the action replay code that lets you skip all text without having already played through.

 

[akidnamededdy]

3DS version is fine. I can't say I noticed the missing frames but they did fix the missing music from the mobile version the trilogy was based on.

3DS version is fine.

 

[GinoFelino]

DS DS DS DS DS!

The 3DS sprites have a fraction of the DS original's* charm.

Also, AA3 is the best one, so it totally deserves the extra effort.




*Yeah yeah, GBA really

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

Rip the game onto a DS flash card then enable the action replay code that lets you skip all text without having already played through.

well shit, flashcarts win again it seems.

but, really, what im trying to get at is how bad the 3DS version really is because i'd like to have the games on my 3DS. I can get the DS cart but if the 3DS version's issues aren't that bad then i'd rather get that version instead

 

[SilentRob]

I just started the 3DS version after having played through the first two games a few years ago and was pretty stunned how much better it looked, especially on a big New 3DS XL-screen. Didn't notice any issues.

 

[Soriku]

Never heard that but I played AA3 on 3DS a couple months ago and it was great.

 

[GinoFelino]

well shit, flashcarts win again it seems.

but, really, what im trying to get at is how bad the 3DS version really is because i'd like to have the games on my 3DS. I can get the DS cart but if the 3DS version's issues aren't that bad then i'd rather get that version instead

The 3DS version has no 'issues' that I'm aware of, but it's much like watching the Star Wars original trilogy with all the added CG and shots of Hayden Christensen.

DS is best version.

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

The 3DS version has no 'issues' that I'm aware of, but it's much like watching the Star Wars original trilogy with all the added CG and shots of Hayden Christensen.

DS is best version.

well dammit, that's really rough to hear. I guess i'll see if my brother still has his DS cart around and i try the action replay thingy to make the text more bearable instead.

 

[Boney]

Bear in mind that the ds version will look all blurry on a 3ds.

I've only seen the iPhone version of aa1 and was disgusted at it, but supposedly the 3ds version is better.

Also, the text tempo really brings the characters to life, so having it faster isn't an improvement personally.

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

Bear in mind that the ds version will look all blurry on a 3ds.

I've only seen the iPhone version of aa1 and was disgusted at it, but supposedly the 3ds version is better.

Also, the text tempo really brings the characters to life, so having it faster isn't an improvement personally.

i get that but since the AA games feature quite a bit of save scumming to try and figure out just what the hell the game is asking of you during trials and psyche locks as such that it can be frustrating to have to reload a save and sit there tapping away at text trying to figure out what you need to do to keep the game going.

 

[rekameohs]

Wait, the 3DS version is fine. It's the iOS one that's shit.

 

[akidnamededdy]

The 3DS version has no 'issues' that I'm aware of, but it's much like watching the Star Wars original trilogy with all the added CG and shots of Hayden Christensen.

It is absolutely not like this at all.

Wait, the 3DS version is fine. It's the iOS one that's shit.

This is accurate.

 

[Easy_D]

Bear in mind that the ds version will look all blurry on a 3ds.

I've only seen the iPhone version of aa1 and was disgusted at it, but supposedly the 3ds version is better.

Also, the text tempo really brings the characters to life, so having it faster isn't an improvement personally.

Not if you hold Start or Select when starting the game, then it gets mapped 1:1 on your screen. On an XL Screen 1:1 is pretty much the same size as the actual DS Lite screen, so it looks quite good

 

[themagicalkitsune]

3DS version is fine and without any issues from my playthrough.

Looks much better too. I guess the people saying otherwise played the DS version first.

 

[Mister_Ruck]

I played through the trilogy on 3DS a couple months ago and didn't find anything to be weird or missing. Maybe some AA purists could notice the difference but I don't think most people can.

 

[GinoFelino]

It is absolutely not like this at all.

Opinions, what are they.

I think the 3DS 'smoothed over' look is horrifying, and not at all indicative of the original sprites' charm.

I'd never recommend the 3DS version to someone playing it for the first time.

Also, about the text speed thing...the difference in quality of the writing between AA2 and AA3 is such that you'll rarely have to replay sections because it's unclear what to do. Don't worry about that being an issue.

 

[akidnamededdy]

Opinions, what are they.

I think the 3DS 'smoothed over' look is horrifying, and not at all indicative of the original sprites' charm.

I'd never recommend the 3DS version to someone playing it for the first time.

Hyperbole, what is it?

The graphics are slightly smoothed over. You compared it to digitally adding a bunch of bullshit and replacing actors with other actors. Then you called it "horrifying." Dial it back a bit buddy.

I played all these games at launch on the DS. I also played the trilogy on iOS and the trilogy on 3DS. And between those two playthroughs, I played my original DS carts for JfA and TaT on my 3DS.

3DS. Version. Is. Fine.

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

what about the missing frames of animation? Does that affect AA3 on the 3DS and if so, how bad is it?

 

[Soriku]

Umm I definitely appreciated how sharp the 3DS version looked, plus they improved the sound quality too didn't they?

 

[GinoFelino]

Hyperbole, what is it?

The graphics are slightly smoothed over. You compared it to digitally adding a bunch of bullshit and replacing actors with other actors. Then you called it "horrifying." Dial it back a bit buddy.

I played all these games at launch on the DS. I also played the trilogy on iOS and the trilogy on 3DS. And between those two playthroughs, I played my original DS carts for JfA and TaT on my 3DS.

3DS. Version. Is. Fine.

OBJECTION!

The 3DS version's sprites are completely redrawn. Com. Plete. Ly. Re. Drawn

Enough with the condescending tone, man. It serves no purpose.

Yes, I believe it's a valid comparison; both do away with the charm of oldschool visuals in their attempt to update for modern audiences. I'd say redrawing all the sprites is a slightly more radical change than 'slightly smoothed over', right? More in line with, say, adding a bunch of CG bullshit?

If the 3DS version is your only option; go ahead, the writing's still great. But if you can experience the original, don't think twice.

 

[Bjoern the Smexy]

OBJECTION!

The 3DS version's sprites are completely redrawn. Com. Plete. Ly. Re. Drawn

Enough with the condescending tone, man. It serves no purpose.

Yes, I believe it's a valid comparison; both do away with the charm of oldschool visuals in their attempt to update for modern audiences.

If the 3DS version is your only option; go ahead, the writing's still great. But if you can experience the original, don't think twice.

It's actually the GBA/DS sprites that are "redrawn". And even more "actually", nothing is really redrawn.
If anything it's that the iOS and 3DS versions actually use the artwork the sprites are based on.


I'd say go with whatever is cheaper in price (which would most probably be the 3DS version, since AA3 alone goes for horrible prices on Amazon and eBay).

 

[GinoFelino]

It's actually the GBA/DS sprites that are "redrawn".

?

And even more "actually", nothing is really redrawn.

That's factually not true.

If anything it's that the iOS and 3DS versions actually use the artwork the sprites are based on.

And that doesn't mean anything. I can base my drawing of Maya off the original artwork, but that doesn't mean it'd look pretty.

 

[khaaan]

Yes, I believe it's a valid comparison; both do away with the charm of oldschool visuals in their attempt to update for modern audiences. I'd say redrawing all the sprites is a slightly more radical change than 'slightly smoothed over', right? More in line with, say, adding a bunch of CG bullshit?

No, redrawing the sprites is not at the same level as adding in a bunch of CG. You're being hyperbolic and overstating the impact of the change.

 

[Adam Prime]

I honestly can't believe this thread has this much discussion and debate.

Its fucking simple: Buy the 3DS version. I own both, its no contest. The sprites are drawn beautifully, the backgrounds fill the screen, and the 3D effect looks great.

Shame on you people telling this dude otherwise. As its already been stated, the iOS port is not good.

 

[MrBadger]

The 3DS version has no 'issues' that I'm aware of, but it's much like watching the Star Wars original trilogy with all the added CG and shots of Hayden Christensen.

DS is best version.

That's actually a rather good comparison, since all the issues are only going to bug people who are familiar with how the games were in the first place and it won't totally ruin it for newcomers

My preference is DS, having said that.

 

[GinoFelino]

No, redrawing the sprites is not at the same level as adding in a bunch of CG. You're being hyperbolic and overstating the impact of the change.

The bottom screen doesn't really mean anything. That's from the bonus DS case in AA1, which looked different from the other cases already.

I think the top screen looks very, very different, yes. I also genuinely think it looks terrible. Most of the redrawn characters look like they're from a Flash game.

Again, opinions are just that. But it's not hyperbole just because it's a different opinion from yours.

I honestly can't believe this thread has this much discussion and debate.

Its fucking simple: Buy the 3DS version. I own both, its no contest. The sprites are drawn beautifully, the backgrounds fill the screen, and the 3D effect looks great.

Shame on you people telling this dude otherwise. As its already been stated, the iOS port is not good.

Now that's hyperbole.

 

[Playsage]

The 3DS version is the same as the IOS version, right?
If so, from my experience I'd say that in the new version the sprite animations felt really off and lost part of the charm

 

[Adam Prime]

No, redrawing the sprites is not at the same level as adding in a bunch of CG. You're being hyperbolic and overstating the impact of the change.

I think this post pretty much allows the OP to make his own opinion. I mean I vastly prefer the 3DS hscreens over the pixelated DS. Granted you can still play the DS game in 1:1 mode on 3DS, but it doesn't fill the screen, obviously, and its smaller in the 3DS. Having everything fill the screen and look great is my preference.

Also Inthink the 3D effect looks great.

 

[Adam Prime]

The 3DS version is the same as the IOS version, right?
If so, from my experience I'd say that in the new version the sprite animations felt really off and lost part of the charm

No it isn't. I believe that the iOS and 3DS versions are not the same. The issues you just mentioned are only present in the iOS as well as audio issues(?).

 

[themagicalkitsune]

The bottom screen doesn't really mean anything. That's from the bonus DS case in AA1, which looked different from the other cases already.

I think the top screen looks very, very different, yes. I also genuinely think it looks terrible. Most of the redrawn characters look like they're from a Flash game.

Again, opinions are just that. But it's not hyperbole just because it's a different opinion from yours.



Now that's hyperbole.

Have you played the 3ds version up to T&T?

 

[GinoFelino]

No it isn't. I believe that the iOS and 3DS versions are not the same. The issues you just mentioned are only present in the iOS as well as audio issues(?).

Visually, the 3DS version contains mostly the same art as the iOS version, but the Flash (imo) look is slightly less jarring due to its lower resolution and 3D effect.

Most of the bugs were fixed for the 3DS release, though.

Have you played the 3ds version up to T&T?

I've played the start of it.

Nope, no big differences here.

 

[entremet]

Didn't the 3DS version clean up those embarrassing typos too?

The 3DS version is the same as the IOS version, right?
If so, from my experience I'd say that in the new version the sprite animations felt really off and lost part of the charm

Nope. This thread is filled with massive amount of misinformation..

 

[khaaan]

Again, opinions are just that. But it's not hyperbole just because it's a different opinion from yours.

It's not a hyperbole that you think the 3DS version looks worse, it's a hyperbole that you're claiming that the change is more in line with CG additions to Star Wars than smoothening out of the sprite work.

 

[Adam Prime]

I think its just crazy talk to suggest the OP to buy a DS version plus a possible flash cart when he could have an equitable version from the eShop with all three games plus a bonus music track for the same price or cheaper, and have it downloaded to play in the next fifteen minutes.

I mean unless you just gotta have that physical copy.

Only hardcore sprite fans are going to prefer the DS versions over the 3DS.

 

[Shift Breaker]

3DS version is perfectly fine. The only thing that matters is the price? What's more reasonable, buying just the one game or buying all three together?

 

[GinoFelino]

It's not a hyperbole that you think the 3DS version looks worse, it's a hyperbole that you're claiming that the change is more in line with CG additions to Star Wars than smoothening out of the sprite work.

I've explained above why I think that comparison is warranted. In some ways, the changes in AAT are more radical than the SW Special Editions; all of the visuals are replaced entirely.

Also, I said this:

If the 3DS version is your only option; go ahead, the writing's still great. But if you can experience the original, don't think twice.

 

[Seven Force]

The minor animation inconsistencies won't be an issue for anyone outside of people that already played the game. The 3DS version is fine.

 

[Adam Prime]

Also OP don't forget to download Dual Destinies when you finish the Trilogy. Its excellent. I'm also a huge fan of Layton vs AA, its a very different take thematically on the whole series, and the courtroom phases, graphics, and OST is in my opinion the best in the series.


Most people do not hold that opinion however lol.

 

[GinoFelino]

Also OP don't forget to download Dual Destinies when you finish the Trilogy. Its excellent. I'm also a huge fan of Layton vs AA, its a very different take thematically on the whole series, and the courtroom phases, graphics, and OST is in my opinion the best in the series.


Most people do not hold that opinion however lol.

This we can agree on! Both games are fantastic.

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

No, redrawing the sprites is not at the same level as adding in a bunch of CG. You're being hyperbolic and overstating the impact of the change.

I like the look of the 3DS version. It's a bit cropped but that doesn't bother me if the tradeoff is that it looks much sharper.

I guess i can live with any animation issues that might exist in the 3DS version.

 

[Mutagenic]

As someone who owns all versions, I highly prefer the DS ones.

 

[Triforce141]

It's all up to preference / convenience, I prefer having the trilogy on 3DS. All 3 games in 1, and looks better on the N3DS XL compared to the original DS games, worth some minor sacrifices.

If you have a normal DS/DSi however, then it's better to get the original, 1:1 pixels and smoother overall.

I guess i can live with any animation issues that might exist in the 3DS version.

Aren't the only noticeable animation issues in the 3DS version one frame blinking for most characters?

 

[L Thammy]

I don't think you have to worry about things like the clown's laugh. The case you're finishing up is probably the worst in the series. There are much better ones coming up soon.

Spoiler

The last case in AA2 is still my favourite in the series.

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

I don't think you have to worry about things like the clown's laugh. The case you're finishing up is probably the worst in the series. There are much better ones coming up soon.

Spoiler

The last case in AA2 is still my favourite in the series.

oh im on that case. outside of one really crappy part where i had to show the same item to the same person in different locations so as to get the plot moving along, it's been fun. I'm nearing the final section,

Spoiler

Engarde just revealed his true self to me after i broke his psyche locks

so that's why im inquiring on what version of AA3 i should pick up

I actually really liked the circus case, it was different and had no ties to anything else in the series which was interesting. Also, there were a lot of red herrings in that case so i was finding myself shifting my opinion on who the real killer was more than once.

If anything, the second case was the one that was a snoozer, the one with the dead doctor. I just found it boring as hell all the way through.