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[SalvaPot]

I mean, yeah, Phoenix will have a new kind of antagonism against him... but a. I don't know how well they'll actually be able to carry that over to the script/gameplay (DGS already handled the "prejudice" thing pretty well with racism against Ryuunosuke and the jury system) and more importantly b. from what we've seen so far this is kind of tipping the series into self-parody.

Like, I'm not gonna pretend AA wasn't ridiculous from the beginning, but with "THE DARK AGE OF THE LAW" and Themis Legal Academy and so on in AA5 and now a country where attorneys are literally revolutionaries being hunted down, it feels like mainline AA is transforming into a shonen anime where the "thing" is law/courts and there's just a dash of seriousness to try to hide it. I mean, seriously! There's a lawyer graveyard in the trailer complete with lightning, ominous figure, and badge-emblazoned headstones!

I'm not writing off the game by any means, and I'm still in day 1, but... geez. Yamazaki needs to turn it down a notch. (Come to think of it, AAI2 had shades of the whole "law as everything" style too.)

Also, re: Maya: IIRC there were a few lines in the stream the other week that suggested she's been there a year or two now, but I guess the idea is that in Kurain you're either one of them or you're a foreigner.

The series has always been anime as hell. Just look at the first game, we had the "FIGHT" confrontations, perfect prosecutors who have never lost cases, a system made for defendants to always lose, the Fey Power that is the series equivalent to a Shonen last minute power-up (Remember how many times Mia saved Phoenix by Maya calling her out at the right time?). Oh, and the only way to win cases is to make the actual murderers confess to their crimes in front of the court, even with almost all of it is circumstantial at best.

I love the series, I think its part of its charm. I think AA6 setting is great, my only worry is if the dialogue is as good as 1-4. 5 was serviceable but it felt lacking.

 

[LegionAgent]

The top YouTube comments are killing me, lol

"AH THE TRADITIONAL AMERICAN SAKURA BLOSSOM, WHAT A WONDERFUL WAY TO CELEBRATE OUR HERITAGE"

That's the stuff of legends.

 

[Magnet_Man]

This is actually what's warming me up a bit to the Kurain setting for AA6. I'm still not convinced it's going to be great, but at least there's a new kind of antagonism towards defense attorneys Wright will have to deal with (barring PLvsPW), which could prove to be interesting.

Also, I had thought Maya was going to be ingrained in that society, but it sounds like she's almost just as much of a tourist there as Wright is right now.

I thought the set up was fine enough with the idea that there was no need for lawyers due to the power of visions (guess the only type of crime that occurs there are murders since I can't imagine the power to channel the dead would help much with robberies, traffic accidents or child custody). It was still pushing it for me but it least had some type of logical flow to it. It would be Phoenix challenging a flawed system and challenging the established faith which would be conflict enough.

But hunting down and killing lawyers for being lawyers? And now there is a viva la résistance of lawyers? And their symbol just happens to be related to Phoenix's family name? It's a little much. I'm beginning to expect there to be an ancient parchment that tells legends of the Spiky One that shall come to the salvation of the lawyer people in their darkest hour and Phoenix will have a birthmark on his ass shaped like court scales. And when Phoenix leaves Kurain at the end of the game, they'll begin the new sacred order known as the "No Nicks Club" and Penny will stick her head out the window and laugh!

I'm sure this game will have some interesting murder mystery concepts, comedic characters / animations, and a creative overarching story, but I think I'll have to eat through two inches of sugar frosting before I get to it.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

But hunting down and killing lawyers for being lawyers? And now there is a viva la résistance of lawyers? And their symbol just happens to be related to Phoenix's family name? It's a little much. I'm beginning to expect there to be an ancient parchment that tells legends of the Spiky One that shall come to the salvation of the lawyer people in their darkest hour [...]

I think that's just a lot of extrapolation, when the actual scenario might not be what you expect it to be.

"Phoenix" is Wright's English name, not his Japanese name. They wouldn't have designed their symbol purposefully to match his English name.

And obviously, they're not chasing down Phoenix in order to kill him. That was seemingly in the distant past, with messed up stuff occurring in their history concerning the law. Fair enough. Not sure what the rebel group is about yet, but I think it's also a compelling way to shine a complex light on those who would supposedly fight for good, kind of putting Phoenix in the middle between "radicalist defense attorneys" and "defense attorney haters."

Edit: Though "Ryuichi" apparently refers to the "mythical dragon," according to Wikipedia, so you're kind of right with the significance regarding his name since the silhouette referred to Wright as the "dragon" in the anime short (though that's more like a pun than anything else right now).

 

[brickarts295]

Time to retire this one

and use that GIF instead for any game exclusive to JP.

 

[Magnet_Man]

I think that's just a lot of extrapolation, when the actual scenario might not be what you expect it to be.

"Phoenix" is Wright's English name, not his Japanese name. They wouldn't have designed their symbol purposefully to match his English name.

And obviously, they're not chasing down Phoenix in order to kill him. That was seemingly in the distant past, with messed up stuff occurring in their history concerning the law. Fair enough. Not sure what the rebel group is about yet, but I think it's also a compelling way to shine a complex light on those who would supposedly fight for good, kind of putting Phoenix in the middle between "radicalist defense attorneys" and "defense attorney haters."

Edit: Though "Ryuichi" apparently refers to the "mythical dragon," according to Wikipedia, so you're kind of right with the significance regarding his name since the silhouette referred to Wright as the "dragon" in the anime short (though that's more like a pun than anything else right now).

Yeah, Phoenix's Japanese name has the word "Ryu" in it which means "dragon" (also why Furio Tigre's shirt has a tiger chomping on a dragon) so I would bet legit money that in the localized version the "Dragon Eyes" or whatnot will be changed to "Phoenix Eyes / Feathers".

If I wasn't such a wimp, I'd avatar bet on it.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

is phoenix eating donuts


EleGiggle

 

[ohlawd]

Athena is so moe

 

[daydream]

the law dystopia thing is getting out of hand

we're never getting dgs, are we

 

[GSR]

Yeah, Phoenix's Japanese name has the word "Ryu" in it which means "dragon" (also why Furio Tigre's shirt has a tiger chomping on a dragon) so I would bet legit money that in the localized version the "Dragon Eyes" or whatnot will be changed to "Phoenix Eyes / Feathers".

If I wasn't such a wimp, I'd avatar bet on it.

Yeah I was pretty close to just opting for that in my translations.

Speaking of which - the YouTube mirror now has a revised translation as subs (use the English captioning.)

 

[Nachos]

I mean, yeah, Phoenix will have a new kind of antagonism against him... but a. I don't know how well they'll actually be able to carry that over to the script/gameplay (DGS already handled the "prejudice" thing pretty well with racism against Ryuunosuke and the jury system) and more importantly b. from what we've seen so far this is kind of tipping the series into self-parody.

Like, I'm not gonna pretend AA wasn't ridiculous from the beginning, but with "THE DARK AGE OF THE LAW" and Themis Legal Academy and so on in AA5 and now a country where attorneys are literally revolutionaries being hunted down, it feels like mainline AA is transforming into a shonen anime where the "thing" is law/courts and there's just a dash of seriousness to try to hide it. I mean, seriously! There's a lawyer graveyard in the trailer complete with lightning, ominous figure, and badge-emblazoned headstones!

I'm not writing off the game by any means, and I'm still in day 1, but... geez. Yamazaki needs to turn it down a notch. (Come to think of it, AAI2 had shades of the whole "law as everything" style too.)

Also, re: Maya: IIRC there were a few lines in the stream the other week that suggested she's been there a year or two now, but I guess the idea is that in Kurain you're either one of them or you're a foreigner.

A lawyer needs to die as they lived – showing their badge for all to see.

But yeah, my problems pretty much mirror yours. As Jintor said, the series has always been sort of shonen-y, but 5 doubled down on it without nuance. The tropes were more flagrant. There are all these calls to these really simple but nebulous ideas as if they're imposing and have tremendous repercussions, only for them to be explored with the subtlety and depth of a typical shonen manga. The dark age of the law stuff just felt like an artificial way of raising the stakes, since it barely has any presence in the story. As if they were stuffing as many grave-sounding words into a term until it gave a twinge of apprehension every time people said it.

It's been a while, but I don't even remember if anyone actually represented the dark side in-game beyond case

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's caricature of a culprit. Phoenix didn't really. Neither did

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Blackquill, even though the two supposedly ushered it.

I'm pretty sure you could remove all mention of it, and the story would be mostly unchanged. Nothing arises from its rampant corruption, because everything's happening and being addressed in the background. There's very little reflection or development from causing the collapse,

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even if it was unwittingly.

I like schlock, but 5 bordered on too much at times. The anime scenes felt tone-deaf to the rest of the game, but not nearly as much as they would to the earlier ones.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

In this case, AA6 very likely won't be able to treat the core theme revolving around Kurain as superficially throw-away as the "Dark Age of the Law" in AA5 since the apprehension towards defense attorneys is at the core of the very setting. It'll be inescapable, so at laest it'll have more meaning in this game (on the Kurain side).

A bit disappointed that Phoenix's reason for going there might have just been an impulse excuse to make sure Maya was alright and visit her. Thought it'd be more of his AA4/AA5 type of ulterior motives, with the very reason being Kurain itself.

Instead, it seems he knows extremely little about the region (serving as the player surrogate for exposition), and is really just there as a tourist.

 

[Lusankya]

we're never getting dgs, are we

From what I've played so far it's not even that good or it's missing a really big "PART 1" title on the box.

 

[daydream]

From what I've played so far it's not even that good or it's missing a really big "PART 1" title on the box.

well i've also read impressions saying it's excellent

all i want is to make up my own mind about it but capcom is not playing ball, unfortunately