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[GavinGT]

Better not suggest that this ban wave will in any way influence consoles sales come Feb NPD. Wouldn't want to be banned.

 

[DR2K]

So they can detect and catch cheaters, awesome.

 

[luoapp]

It should be a PSN ban for cheaters.

Good to know that, for now at least, Sony are at least seeing sense and not banning hackers who don't cheat.

That will come, guaranteed.

Why? As long as you get it as say Gamestop, you can just go back and say banned console, give me another. Does anyone know how GS handles banned console returns anyway?

They have 1 month unconditional return policy. Just take it back.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

This.

Why? As long as you get it as say Gamestop, you can just go back and say banned console, give me another. Does anyone know how GS handles banned console returns anyway?

 

[SolidSnakex]

Why? As long as you get it as say Gamestop, you can just go back and say banned console, give me another. Does anyone know how GS handles banned console returns anyway?

Do they even check to see if a console is banned? As long as a game boots up then they seem to be ok with taking it.

 

[DR2K]

Why? As long as you get it as say Gamestop, you can just go back and say banned console, give me another. Does anyone know how GS handles banned console returns anyway?

They don't go online and can't detect it. So they take it like any other console, they offer a 30 day warranty though.

 

[GavinGT]

Why? As long as you get it as say Gamestop, you can just go back and say banned console, give me another. Does anyone know how GS handles banned console returns anyway?

I have no idea. But I would hope they could call Microsoft/Sony and determine at least a ban date.

 

[Zoe]

Do they even check to see if a console is banned? As long as a game boots up then they seem to be ok with taking it.

Especially if it's game specific, they can't possibly test all the games out there.

 

[GavinGT]

Especially if it's game specific, they can't possibly test all the games out there.

And that's the problem with this method. It really screws used buyers. At least a general system ban can be discovered right away by the new owner. But whatever. Get those cheating fucks out of there.

 

[Zoe]

And that's the problem with this method. It really screws used buyers.

I don't think Sony cares there :lol

 

[KaYotiX]

And that's the problem with this method. It really screws used buyers. At least a general system ban can be discovered right away by the buyer.

Yeah it does suck, but I'm assuming it's such a small percentage. If you bought it used and got banned just take it back.

 

[BobTheFork]

The problem is that a lot of those hacks are contagious and if you join a modded lobby you can be affected until you actually power off the system. Based on some of the comments, some legitimate players got temporarily infected after joining modded lobbies and were permanently banned as a result. That's bullshit to be banned because a developer can't properly secure their game.

wait, based on what?' The fact that they have shitty grammar and swear 'I'm innocent, I just rock'?

 

[GavinGT]

I don't think Sony cares there :lol

Yeah but Activision's in bed with Microsoft more than Sony at this point. And it's pretty clear that Activision is doing the ban.

 

[Mizzou Gaming]

It should be a PSN ban for cheaters.

Good to know that, for now at least, Sony are at least seeing sense and not banning hackers who don't cheat.

I don't think SONY is giving hacking, non cheaters a pass, they just don't have a fullproof system intact yet that would allow them to single out and ban them. Sounds like you can play BLOPS with a hacked console, you just get banned if you use the hack to cheat in BLOPS. That's the way I read it anyway.

Edit- Wait so is the PSN account banned or the entire console banned too? I wonder if any of them created a seperate account and tried again. Sorry, as incredibly smart as I am my hacking/cheating at video games knowledge is somewhat limited. I guess I'm asking how are they detecting these cheaters? Does it just look for abnormalities in the game/stats itself or can they detect altered content within the PS3 itself?

 

[DonMigs85]

Lol look at those filthy liars
"Heelp I lended my PS3 to a fwend and I think he cheated w/o me knowing, pwees unban me!!!"

 

[Dambrosi]

I agree that cheaters should be perm banned, but I don't see any reason to assume that they are being given out with 100% accuracy. There's always some poor schmuck that gets incorrectly punished.

What happens if you buy a used console that has been banned? If only some games are banned, you may not realize it until after your warranty is gone.

You just won't be able to play CoD: BLOps. You can still use PSN for everything else. That simple.

Like I said in the other thread, I wholeheartedly approve of the per-game banning structure, but I am worried about those innocent users who will inevitably be permabanned from BLOPs. I heard that there are no appeals, which is understandable, but sucks for those wrongfully banned.

And you can forget about MW2 getting the same treatment - it's now too old for policing it to be worth Acti's while.

Sounds like you can play BLOPS with a hacked console, you just get banned if you use the hack to cheat in BLOPS. That's the way I read it anyway.

And that's how it should be - only cheaters getting the axe. Do you not agree?

 

[The Faceless Master]

Justice!

 

[Truespeed]

The only downside is that they were banned from 1 game. They should have been banned from the network.

 

[erpg]

Really hope full PSN comes next.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

The only downside is that they were banned from 1 game. They should have been banned from the network.

I don't think Sony will do that. Cut their nose off to spite their face.

Cutting someone off from the network cuts them off from being able to actually buy games/movies from their service.

 

[Icarus]

I'm bummed it's only BLOPs... should be network wide ban like MS does.

 

[Zoe]

I don't think Sony will do that. Cut their nose off to spite their face.

Cutting someone off from the network cuts them off from being able to actually buy games/movies from their service.

They could at least hand out temporary account bans.

 

[I NEED SCISSORS]

They could at least hand out temporary account bans.

Console bans are the best option for typical hackers. At least then the accounts can be carried over to PSP2 and PlayStation Suite, which Sony are going to be pimping extra hard.

But cheaters should be banned from PSN full stop.

 

[Goon Boon]

IP bans likely would have sufficed, given that changing your ip is something outside the intellectual range of most people who get their jollies cheating at a shallow fps.

 

[Lonely1]

I'm bummed it's only BLOPs... should be network wide ban like MS does.

At least it will scare casual cheaters.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

IP bans likely would have sufficed, given that changing your ip is something outside the intellectual range of most people who get their jollies cheating at a shallow fps.

don't believe that. these mothafuckas are cunning as hell.

 

[GavinGT]

Console bans are the best option for typical hackers. At least then the accounts can be carried over to PSP2 and PlayStation Suite, which Sony are going to be pimping extra hard.

But cheaters should be banned from PSN full stop.

I totally agree, but that is not how things will go down.

IP bans likely would have sufficed, given that changing your ip is something outside the intellectual range of most people who get their jollies cheating at a shallow fps.

I can hit a button on top of my router to reassign everything. Besides, most people don't even use static IPs.

 

[Gaz Pwnage]

IP bans likely would have sufficed, given that changing your ip is something outside the intellectual range of most people who get their jollies cheating at a shallow fps.

ADSL > Reboot Router > New IP

 

[IMACOMPUTA]

Ok, so this is good.
But are they actually banning for cheating, or detecting custom firmware and banning?

 

[Dambrosi]

IP bans likely would have sufficed, given that changing your ip is something outside the intellectual range of most people who get their jollies cheating at a shallow fps.

Love the back-handed insult, classy.

That said, who's to say that someone smarter than them wouldn't change their IP for them? That's the risk, hence, machine permabans from BLOPs servers.

IMACOMPUTA: Banned for cheating.

 

[Goon Boon]

ADSL > Reboot Router > New IP

Well yeah I know how to reset my ip, thats how I got two free years of live. I just figured they'd probably fuck up somewhere in the process.

 

[The Faceless Master]

They could at least hand out temporary account bans.

it takes 3-5 minutes to make a new PSN account, any account ban longer than that is worthless.

 

[knitoe]

Sounds like Activision / Treyarch are doing the banning and not Sony. So, that's why it's only for Black Ops instead of all of PSN.

 

[I NEED SCISSORS]

it takes 3-5 minutes to make a new PSN account, any account ban longer than that is worthless.

But the ratio!

 

[Dambrosi]

Sounds like Activision / Treyarch are doing the banning and not Sony. So, that's why it's only for Black Ops instead of all of PSN.

Which makes sense. It's presumably not Sony's job to police Activision's servers.

 

[Zoe]

it takes 3-5 minutes to make a new PSN account, any account ban longer than that is worthless.

I'm saying on top of a single-game console ban. More like a warning than anything else.

 

[neoism]

I haven't updated in forever.... here goes... I don't cheat at games, so I shouldn't have anything to worry about unless it YLODs my system...

 

[GavinGT]

Sounds like Activision / Treyarch are doing the banning and not Sony. So, that's why it's only for Black Ops instead of all of PSN.

Makes sense that they'd be doing something about it rather than anyone else. Black Ops is the hottest game right now. Also, the 360 is no longer online-exploitable with a JTAGed system, so they've turned their attention to cleaning up their PS3 servers. They're the only ones with a real, current interest in solving the problem and selling more copies.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Dear PSN & Black Ops cheaters,

...and thanks for your money.


Sincerely,

Activision

hahahaha Perfect


I am happy about this. Fucking hate cheaters. It's a fucking video game

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

Hahahahahahah!!! Fucking stupid ass cheaters, haha fuck you, hahahaha.

I love sweet justice.

 

[neoism]

it takes 3-5 minutes to make a new PSN account, any account ban longer than that is worthless.

shame.. I'm a one account gamer... I hope PS4, and the next xbox lets us transfer accounts. Cheaters probably don't give a fuck... A friend at work hacked MW2 on his PS3... I just don't understand why do it. If your going to play the game play the game.

 

[UntoldDreams]

Good lord the terrible grammar... It hurts my eyes to read those excuses.

 

[Mizzou Gaming]

You just won't be able to play CoD: BLOps. You can still use PSN for everything else. That simple.

Like I said in the other thread, I wholeheartedly approve of the per-game banning structure, but I am worried about those innocent users who will inevitably be permabanned from BLOPs. I heard that there are no appeals, which is understandable, but sucks for those wrongfully banned.

And you can forget about MW2 getting the same treatment - it's now too old for policing it to be worth Acti's while.


And that's how it should be - only cheaters getting the axe. Do you not agree?

Oh no, I really don't agree or disagree because I just don't know enough about the hacking community to rationally take a side. I hope that makes some sense.

 

[Zoe]

The only thing I hate about this is Activision will turn around and say "See? Look how easy it was for us to clean up BLOps as opposed to MW2 lololol"

 

[grap3fruitman]

wait, based on what?' The fact that they have shitty grammar and swear 'I'm innocent, I just rock'?

I didn't say everyone was innocent but based on my experience in playing CoD games online, if you join a modded lobby you'll have some effects pass to your next games until you power off your system. Some of the modified values stay in ram and if I got banned because I joined a modded lobby, got "infected" and banned as a result I'd be raising hell. Don't tell me that their programmed method of detecting cheaters is full-proof because they can't even get their netcode working properly.

 

[zerokoolpsx]

Hit the road cheaters! Don't you come back no more no more no more no more!

 

[Dambrosi]

Oh no, I really don't agree or disagree because I just don't know enough about the hacking community to rationally take a side. I hope that makes some sense.

It does, thank you. I wish some others on this forum would follow your example, though.

 

[TwIsTeD]

Good on Treyarch for Moving forward with this, running game mods on a console are probably a lot easier to detect anyway,I'm waiting for a ps3 punk buster client


Now that I'm visiting my family im gonna play my sisters copy of mw2 on ps3, I wanna see how bad it really is haha

 

[Truespeed]

I don't think Sony will do that. Cut their nose off to spite their face.

Cutting someone off from the network cuts them off from being able to actually buy games/movies from their service.

The financial impact of this cesspool not buying content wouldn't even register. At the minimum, take away all of their trophies and tag them for life.

 

[Brashnir]

The excuses people come up with are always the best part.

Indeed. Nothing will ever top the guy who got his console banned from XBL, then went on the Xbox forums (where it shows your gamercard) to profess his innocence and had a leaked/unreleased game in his "most recently played" area.