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[kehs]

So their CS2 servers for activation are different than their new CS servers for activation?

Doesn't make any sense.

 

[Buddha Beam]

I hope adobe learns from this fiasco's backlash. Their software is already so laughably pirated, releasing a nearly 10 year old abandonware version seems like it'd be a cool, smart gesture. Plus getting ahold of CS6 is so easy and cheap now ($50/mo).. it just makes sense as a marketing tactic, if you ask me.

 

[phosphor112]

Lol'd at the first post.

 

[Lord Error]

To play a devil's advocate, how can anyone possibly ever know that you're using technically illegal copy of their suite, if you're using this version? If the activation servers are down, I mean.

 

[Nibel]

Adobe just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about Internet culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in real life where you can become popular by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in on the Internet, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase any version of Photoshop for either operating system, nor will they purchase any of Adobe's software. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Adobe has alienated an entire market with this move.

Adobe, publicly apologize and reinstate CS2 for all systems or you can kiss your business goodbye.

This always gets me, bravo!

 

[Erasus]

To play a devil's advocate, how can anyone possibly ever know that you're using technically illegal copy of their suite, if you're using this version? If the activation servers are down, I mean.

They cant because they took down the servers for CS2... as stated!
They also dont check if you bought CS2 in the past.

So no, they wont know.

So their CS2 servers for activation are different than their new CS servers for activation?

Doesn't make any sense.

Uh, what?

Newer versions of the software = more advanced DRM/checking = new server software needed

It just cost too much to keep the old servers up and its not like people go out and buy new copies of CS2

 

[M.D]

So, am I safe keeping these, or would it be better to remove what I got?

 

[Batman]

Yeah I downloaded photoshop yesterday, I am scared.

 

[Erasus]

So, am I safe keeping these, or would it be better to remove what I got?

Yeah I downloaded photoshop yesterday, I am scared.

They are saying that only those who purchased CS2 is allowed to download the software.

But there is no way for them to check as the CS2 servers are down, and even if they did check, would they really bother with people downloading 7 year old software?

 

[Bgamer90]

lol if people are able to use the software then technically it's still true

Well yeah, but I didn't mean it that way.

I meant it in the sense that I had a feeling that there would be some catch or some change(s) shortly after. I guess they can't really do anything now though.

 

[ittoryu]

OK, sorry if I don't understand this but it seems to me that CS2 is really out there just to be downloaded . Am I missing something?

EDIT: I am not sure I can include this url, but it is from the Adobe website. Sorry if it's not allowed for some reason.

 

[DopeyFish]

OK, sorry if I don't understand this but it seems to me that CS2 is really out there just to be downloaded Am I missing something?

whats interesting about this page is you don't need an adobe id to access this page

 

[MisterHero]

What happens if you own an old version like PS7 and the Adobe site doesn't support activating it?

 

[kehs]

Uh, what?

Newer versions of the software = more advanced DRM/checking = new server software needed

It just cost too much to keep the old servers up and its not like people go out and buy new copies of CS2

I know, but the volume of people still activating CS2 would be minimal, and the strain to verify that small amount of people has got to be a small blip. It's not like they're doing away with verification servers altogether.

Considering the fact they've still not pulled the downloads or access to the codes....I'm putting on my tin foil hat and this is them turning their software into freeware for the crack-effect.

 

[eudaemonic]

I'm in the group that says they should have just ran with it and made it look like good PR. I thought it was a pretty awesome idea (though I had the feeling it was an accident to begin with).

 

[Shadow Hog]

OK, sorry if I don't understand this but it seems to me that CS2 is really out there just to be downloaded (snip). Am I missing something?

EDIT: I am not sure I can include this url, but it is from the Adobe website. Sorry if it's not allowed for some reason.

This URL was passed around in the last topic, but Cyan explicitly nixed all instances of it. I'd remove it if I were you.

 

[D4Danger]

What happens if you own an old version like PS7 and the Adobe site doesn't support activating it?

downloading a crack is probably your only option. DRM is balls.

 

[Dead Prince]

i talked with their online CS. they gave me a number to call their technical line. i'm just doing this for fun. i'm sure a few hundred called in. i just want to hear they have to say.

 

[Azure Dream]

Here's the short version:

• (...)
• Adobe releases a no-activation version of CS2, but forgets to restrict it to Adobe IDs of CS2 owners only.
• Tech news (and other news, it even made Forbes magazine) websites pick up on this and spread it all over the internet as being Adobe giving away CS2 for free.
  (...)

I think you're missing a step. The reason all those tech sites jumped on the "It's free" line of thinking is because, to my understanding, there was a staff member on the official Adobe forums that was asked about the keys, and confirmed the software was freely available. They did not offer any qualifier about having to own the software prior.

I'll see if I can locate it, but they've probably deleted it.

Edit: Here's an example, how it originally read:

We are aware that the software is available for all users with an Adobe ID. Please keep in mind that due to the age of these software titles it is likely that they will not function properly on modern operating systems.

But surprise, surprise, a new line has mysteriously appeared...

Yea CaptainSmingey we are aware that the software is available for all users with an Adobe ID. You will want to have a valid license for a software title affected by the activation server outage. Please also keep in mind that due to the age of these software titles it is likely that they will not function properly on modern operating systems.



Message was edited by: Jeff A Wright

 

[MrBig]

Fire the PR people. All they had to say was "Yes it's free, enjoy it poor people" and everyone would love Adobe and buy more Adobe products.

Instead we get "this wasn't meant for you people".

Regardless I'm happy, I got mine.

Yeah, this. The people who would need to go through this channel are not the people who would actually be purchasing adobe's products. Adobe's pricing is geared directly at what businesses will pay, not what individual hobbyist and such have to spend on it.

They just need to own up to it, leave the downloads/serials up for free, don't offer any support for CS2, and continue business as usual.

 

[Aguirre]

tumblr ate this up. saw a post linking to the adobe download page with almost 50k notes. haha

 

[caramac]

Damn, I posted this on some other forums I visit. I feel I have bad rep coming my way

 

[Messypandas]

This is like that prison gate in the simpsons that politely asks people not to leave

 

[Danj]

OK, sorry if I don't understand this but it seems to me that CS2 is really out there just to be downloaded . Am I missing something?

EDIT: I am not sure I can include this url, but it is from the Adobe website. Sorry if it's not allowed for some reason.

With the legal status of this thing so uncertain, it's best to err on the side of caution. It is really weird that you can still access the keys and download the software from a legitimate Adobe website though.

 

[StopMakingSense]

What happens if you own an old version like PS7 and the Adobe site doesn't support activating it?

PS7 wasn't activated online, for starters.

 

[Anteater]

Yeah I downloaded photoshop yesterday, I am scared.

They logged your IP and it's sent to the police, they also found that you have 235 unpaid parking tickets, totalling $175

I hope you brought your check book, wiseguy.

 

[Tesseract]

 

[Shadow Hog]

They logged your IP and it's sent to the police, they also found that you have 235 unpaid parking tickets, totalling $175

I hope you brought your check book, wiseguy.

There's also the whole vigilantism thing, being Batman and all.

Those are some cheap-ass parking tickets, though. 75 cents a pop?

 

[MisterHero]

PS7 wasn't activated online, for starters.

I wouldn't know because a relative installed it on my PC and still has the disc somewhere. They did stop supporting a bunch of old versions though. I want to know because if I could buy older versions cheaper, I would.

 

[Dan]

Yeah, this. The people who would need to go through this channel are not the people who would actually be purchasing adobe's products. Adobe's pricing is geared directly at what businesses will pay, not what individual hobbyist and such have to spend on it.

Shit, how about even letting us buy old versions for cheap?

 

[redlemon]

Shit, how about even letting us buy old versions for cheap?

Isn't that what the elements versions are for essentially? I agree that having an outdated version that might not even work on peoples pc's isn't going to impact your profits.

 

[Dan]

Isn't that what the elements versions are for essentially? I agree that having an outdated version that might not even work on peoples pc's isn't going to impact your profits.

Maybe? I can't even tell, because all Adobe promotes it as is a photo editing tool. I want to create images, not touch up photos.

 

[dehydratedbabies]

I nabbed Photoshop in this deal, although I haven't installed it yet. Should make a nice upgrade from the PS7 I was using for the last decade though. It's times like this that I love the internet so much.

I used PS7 for too long, now I have CS5 and it confuses me.

Anyway, I want to believe that Adobe's response to this didn't actually come from their PR department and that someone spoke out of turn, because otherwise Adobe's PR team is either stupid or powerless.

 

[aku:jiki]

Maybe? I can't even tell, because all Adobe promotes it as is a photo editing tool. I want to create images, not touch up photos.

What do you mean? It's called Photoshop for a reason...

 

[Azure Dream]

Anyway, I want to believe that Adobe's response to this didn't actually come from their PR department and that someone spoke out of turn, because otherwise Adobe's PR team is either stupid or powerless.

To be fair, they could be having a heated boardroom argument right now about whether or not to use the phrase "Due to popular demand, ..."

They have to be at least considering it. The alternative nets them absolutely nothing but ill will for the tease. There might be some fear that people who get the older product for free are lost sales of the newer products, but the people who seriously want the newest CS and would actually buy it aren't going to settle for ancient versions, not for long.

 

[Dan]

What do you mean? It's called Photoshop for a reason...

If you look at how they promote it, 98% of what they tout is strictly photo editing. It's even explicitly stated in how they differentiate Photoshop CS from Elements.

"Photoshop Elements 11 is great for anyone who takes pictures to remember important life events — including family milestones, celebrations with friends, travel experiences, and everyday moments. It’s also ideal for people who want to enhance their photos and enjoy expressing themselves creatively through photography. With Photoshop Elements, you can live in the moment knowing that you can turn your everyday shots into sensational photos."

"Photoshop Elements is designed for people who are just getting started with digital photo editing and want an easy way to organize, enhance, and share their photos. Photoshop is the professional standard for creating powerful images, and Photoshop Extended delivers everything in Photoshop as well as tools for creating and editing 3D* images and performing image analysis."

Whatever. I'll keep using GIMP on my personal machine...

 

[injurai]

Adobe just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about Internet culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in real life where you can become popular by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in on the Internet, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase any version of Photoshop for either operating system, nor will they purchase any of Adobe's software. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Adobe has alienated an entire market with this move.

Adobe, publicly apologize and reinstate CS2 for all systems or you can kiss your business goodbye.

Incredible

 

[dehydratedbabies]

There might be some fear that people who get the older product for free are lost sales of the newer products, but the people who seriously want the newest CS and would actually buy it aren't going to settle for ancient versions, not for long.

Indeed. The people downloading CS2 from this are too poor/cheap to buy CS6 and/or too righteous/lazy/uninformed to pirate it. It seems clear to me that the potential sales lost are worth the increased brand recognition. I just want to know who at Adobe to scold for this silliness.

 

[Dead Prince]

Indeed. The people downloading CS2 from this are too poor/cheap to buy CS6 and/or too righteous/lazy/uninformed to pirate it. It seems clear to me that the potential sales lost are worth the increased brand recognition. I just want to know who at Adobe to scold for this silliness.

or pay $50 a month (or cheaper) and get yourself the whole creative collection to use.

 

[PaulLFC]

or pay $50 a month (or cheaper) and get yourself the whole creative collection to use.

Just looked into that. $50 a month in the US maybe. £47 ($75) per month here. Maybe if they could price things fairly they might get more people subscribing.

 

[hateradio]

I remember CS2 was so slow to start up. Ugh.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

One of GAFs worst memes that gets repeatedly cheered on by mouth breathers. No more. NO MORE!

I mean, if beating a dead horse is to overuse an expression...

Then this is beating the plants that grew from the seed of the plants that grew from the dried blood and dessicated remains of the pulverized corpse of the horse.

Did the meme like punch your puppy in the face?

 

[Karl2177]

So let's say that I downloaded it before Adobe said that it was only for CS2 purchasers and I keep it. What are the repercussions to me?

 

[Joel Was Right]

The impression I got was that the group of people excited by this 'giveaway' were hoping to use the program quite casually as an alternative to Microsoft Paint, for example, so I doubt there to be any kind of impact from Adobe trying to impede new downloads of the software. If someone really wanted Photoshop, they would be able to get it one way or the other.

 

[Clockwork]

So let's say that I downloaded it before Adobe said that it was only for CS2 purchasers and I keep it. What are the repercussions to me?

Nothing. Maybe a guilty conscience?

 

[Human_Shield]

I wonder if anyone actually registered it under their Adobe ID. What do you think would happen if they did?

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

People in here are acting like they murdered someone and they're trying to hide the body.

 

[Mr_Appleby]

Yeah I still think the strange wording is to avoid any repercussions of the software not working for some people. I've been running (legit) CS2 for a few years now though and it's fine on win7-64 except that it asks you to register as a user every start up.

Indeed. The people downloading CS2 from this are too poor/cheap to buy CS6 and/or too righteous/lazy/uninformed to pirate it. It seems clear to me that the potential sales lost are worth the increased brand recognition. I just want to know who at Adobe to scold for this silliness.

that would make me... cheap and righteous. right on man.

 

[Imbarkus]

I remember CS2 was so slow to start up. Ugh.

Upgrade to CS5 and your CS memories will be true again.

 

[Mesoian]

Adobe just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about Internet culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in real life where you can become popular by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in on the Internet, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase any version of Photoshop for either operating system, nor will they purchase any of Adobe's software. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Adobe has alienated an entire market with this move.

Adobe, publicly apologize and reinstate CS2 for all systems or you can kiss your business goodbye.