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[drotahorror]

After hearing HATRED was coming to the Switch, I thought I'd install it again to check it out. I figured I'd play for a few and get bored like I always do with this game. Well, I lasted a bit longer than expected, because the mods are crazy for this game.

Want to sprint around like a madman with ultra super strength, destroying everything in your path? go for it.






Laser eyes?





Third person with a bit of color and bullet time






All in all, a nice little modding community. Definitely makes the game more fun, there's many other mods, including full color ones, an FPS mod, custom levels, etc. I assume it's ok to talk about this (mediocre) game now. Love the destruction in this game, but annoying how some things can't be destroyed. It's a definitely a fun time killer for a half hour or so in spurts. It's monotonous if you play much longer than an hour or so imo.

 

[Kamina]

So this game is about killing random people, or is it the mods?

 

[DoctaThompson]

Never seen this game before till now. Seems like it could be an interesting game, apart from being a psycho, killing rando's. The lighting and effects look pretty nice for a game that's 5 years old.

 

[Northeastmonk]

I’ll admit that I bought Hatred back before it came out. I played it, but it was just shooting up the police station and then whatever I could find along the way. It’s all a blur. I just haven’t had a reason to go back and play it. I like it more than Postal, but it’s not like it takes a lot to be better than Postal. I’m shocked it’s coming to Switch. It’s an incredibly dark game. The game is entertaining, but nothing long term. It’s fun for like 20-30 minutes at a time.

So this game is about killing random people, or is it the mods?

Pretty much. You’re a crazy killer causing as much mayhem as possible.

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

So this game is about killing random people, or is it the mods?

Its about being a mass shooter.

Not sure why anyone would get a kick out of this tbh. Theres GTA series which is tongue in cheek, then theres this shit.

Context is everything.

I miss when Nintendo had standards.

 

[drotahorror]

Its about being a mass shooter.

Not sure why anyone would get a kick out of this tbh. Theres GTA series which is tongue in cheek, then theres this shit.

Context is everything.

Did you not even look at the first 5 seconds of the first video? You don't think having superman powers and demolishing an almost fully destructible environment sounds fun?

Besides the ridiculousness of it all (the base game), there's a great physics engine behind it, with destruction we normally only see in games like Battlefield and Red Faction.

The game is mindless, and I don't see how anyone would take this game seriously. Going on a shooting rampage in GTAV is much more realistic and graphic, and the context is what you make of it.

 

[PSYGN]

I thought what I was seeing was the Nintendo Switch version with mods and was impressed and even more so with 3rd-person mod, what are the chances we will see these mods on the Nintendo Switch version?

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

Did you not even look at the first 5 seconds of the first video? You don't think having superman powers and demolishing an almost fully destructible environment sounds fun?

Besides the ridiculousness of it all (the base game), there's a great physics engine behind it, with destruction we normally only see in games like Battlefield and Red Faction.

The game is mindless, and I don't see how anyone would take this game seriously. Going on a shooting rampage in GTAV is much more realistic and graphic, and the context is what you make of it.

I was talking about the base game.

 

[Elektro Demon]

Its about being a mass shooter.

Not sure why anyone would get a kick out of this tbh. Theres GTA series which is tongue in cheek, then theres this shit.

Context is everything.

I miss when Nintendo had standards.

Why not? There's a clear difference between game violence/gore and real life stuff. I don't need context to enjoy over the top gore and violence.

#restoremythreadmakingabilities

 

[Ar¢tos]

I thought talking about this game wasn't allowed in GAF.

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

Why not? There's a clear difference between game violence/gore and real life stuff. I don't need context to enjoy over the top gore and violence.

#restoremythreadmakingabilities

Play want you want to play.


To me its the shooter equivalent of those sexually suggestive or out right porn/hentai anime games that have clearly under-aged girls in them and people try to justify it because "cartoon".


Thats just my opinion of the game.

 

[Elektro Demon]

Play want you want to to play.


To me its the shooter equivalent of those sexually suggestive or out right porn/hentai anime games that have clearly under-aged girls in them and people try to justify it because "cartoon".


Thats just my opinion of the game.

I enjoy in game gore and violence. Especially Manhunt, those kills are gruesome, and I find satisfaction in them.
That being said, I remember when I saw a pig being butchered. I couldn't watch that shit, it was disturbing.
There's a clear difference between games and real life, imo. At least in my case.

 

[nkarafo]

As isometric games go this looks pretty impressive.

 

[Kamina]

I thought talking about this game wasn't allowed in GAF.

Is that some Old-GAF rule?

 

[Ar¢tos]

Is that some Old-GAF rule?

I guess so. I have some faint memory of discussion of AO games not being allowed.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Is that some Old-GAF rule?

Probably. Sounds like an ERA rule, tbh.

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

I enjoy in game gore and violence. Especially Manhunt, those kills are gruesome, and I find satisfaction in them.
That being said, I remember when I saw a pig being butchered. I couldn't watch that shit, it was disturbing.
There's a clear difference between games and real life, imo. At least in my case.

The killing in Manhunt is fair game, Postal is clearly tongue and cheek.

Context.

 

[Virex]

Its about being a mass shooter.

Not sure why anyone would get a kick out of this tbh. Theres GTA series which is tongue in cheek, then theres this shit.

Context is everything.

I miss when Nintendo had standards.

Cry me a fucking river

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

Cry me a fucking river

Im not allowed to have standards?

I care about this hobby and while freedom of expression is one thing, at what point as a developer do you apply a bit of self awareness and think "Is this game going to do more harm than good to my industry. What does it contribute?"

 

[Virex]

Im not allowed to have standards?

I care about this hobby and while freedom of expression is one thing, at what point as a developer do you apply a bit of self awareness and think "Is this game going to do more harm than good to my industry. What does it contribute?"

cry me a river

 

[Nickolaidas]

Im not allowed to have standards?

I care about this hobby and while freedom of expression is one thing, at what point as a developer do you apply a bit of self awareness and think "Is this game going to do more harm than good to my industry. What does it contribute?"

I remember the developers claiming that this game was a punch to the face to all those developers and companies who were afraid of being bold with their games and were always trying to be politically correct instead of making the game they wanted.

Take it for what it is. Personally, I understand and respect the sentiment but I'm not sure if it is healthy to put myself in the shoes of a serial killer. I mean, is it a power fantasy? Escapism? A sense of pure freedom to do whatever the fuck you want, without caring for the cost to others? There are healthier ways to vent.

It is an interesting topic for discussion. Does brutally murdering demons in Doom makes one apathetic towards violence? Is one ignoring the imagery because it's just harmless fun? Is it harmless to be apathetic or enjoying oneself when you are murdering innocent lifeless character models in a video game who are begging you to spare their lives?

Funnily enough, there was a Chainsaw Massacre game for the Atari many years ago where you were actually Leatherface and you were brutally murdering people. So the concept isn't new, but in a era where school shootings and random acts of violence are rampant, I'm not entirely sure if it's the right thing.

Imagine a video game where you a white man who chases down, enslaves, whips and murders innocent black people and doing it because they're black. One can see it as racist, another can see it as a way of showing you how brutally the whites treated the black in the past and how wrong this behavior is. What is the truth? The former? The latter? Both? Context is key, and the development and psyche of the character would play some part, but in this case … what exactly would be this game? A political message - either a racist one or a social one - or mindless fun? And how one would consider it fun to hunt down and kill black people other than a diehard racist?

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

I remember the developers claiming that this game was a punch to the face to all those developers and companies who were afraid of being bold with their games and were always trying to be politically correct instead of making the game they wanted.

If thats what they said, someone should have informed them that the devs theyre accusing of not making the games they want are often not given that freedom to begin with.

 

[TaroYamada]

I have this game. I'm staunchly in favor of the first amendment so I checked it out. Dark. Too dark for me.

Also it didn't seem very good if I'm being honest but it was so dark I didn't play much of it.

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

I have this game. I'm staunchly in favor of the first amendment so I checked it out. Dark. Too dark for me.

Also it didn't seem very good if I'm being honest but it was so dark I didn't play much of it.

If it had a message it was trying to convey or something...then i would have been all for it, but it doesnt and just come across as some edgelord project.

 

[kiphalfton]

I have this game. I'm staunchly in favor of the first amendment so I checked it out. Dark. Too dark for me.

Also it didn't seem very good if I'm being honest but it was so dark I didn't play much of it.

Maybe try the color palette mod that op suggested.

 

[LemmingWithaParachute]

Maybe try the color palette mod that op suggested.

Lol, i think TaroYamada was referring to the context, not the color palette.

 

[mcjmetroid]

Never heard of this game before but it's a great win again for censorship with Nintendo I think.

A game like this should be released of course.

Would I be interested though? Ah Nope.

 

[RedVIper]

Somehow this just makes me wish for a Prototype reboot/remaster, that game was fucking fun.

 

[PocoJoe]

Its about being a mass shooter.

Not sure why anyone would get a kick out of this tbh. Theres GTA series which is tongue in cheek, then theres this shit.

Context is everything.

I miss when Nintendo had standards.

"not sure why anyone would get a kick out of being italian plumber whom stomps animals"

Don't be some kind of "king of moral", it is just a game.

If you cant part fiction from reality, then this game isn't for you I guess.

My point is that it is completely fine to want to play mass shooting game and slaughter women, children, men, dogs, whatever.

Because normal person should be able to play game like this without wanting to do it in real life, or think that it is real.

Imo it is fun to break the rules and games are place where you dont have to care about moral.

Like most movies repeat the same formula: men are expendable, women are victims and children are the holy ground. That is just boring and limits things.

And why would "tongue in cheek" make it more acceptable? Like "lol I will drive over this woman haha" is different than "grrr I shoot all these people now!"? Whit that rule isnt killing people in games like GTA technically even worse? As it is not the goal of the game, to kill people walking on the streets

Kind of hypocritical to think that it is 100% find to slaughter men (all war games) or it is ok to kill anything if it is not that serious.

It is just a game and if you can't see it like that, maybe you should think about it?

Personally I find games like this really refreshing, as they break the stupid moral rules that are mainly made to make people think that they are good, while they are just man made rules and usually even stupid like "kill 100000 men, that is fine. Kill 1 child = OMG SICK!!"

Because reality is that women or children aren't any more important than men, because nobody is important in the scale of universe.

Mass shootings happen, wars happen, murders happen, bombing happens, moving 10 000 km to kill people because of oil happens, killing because of one imaginary sky entity is better than another imaginary sky entity.

So these games should not be the biggest worry in this world, they are just fiction and wont hurt anyone

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

I bought it on release. I think it's hilarious. Nothing special, but amusing for a while.

 

[Helios]

So this game is about killing random people

It's postal 1 but somehow more edgy. It's kind of self-aware but most of the time it's not played for laugh or for shock value. It's kind of in-between which just makes it weird in my opinion.
Except for the final cutscene which is great


Also the gameplay itself is not that great.

Honestly just watch Civvie's review of it. It's better.

 

[replicant-]

It’s an ok game which got the moral police upset.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

On the Switch? Wow Nintendo sure have changed their ways. I hope ot comes with optional cheats. I just want to mindlessly slaughter with god mode and some pumping music.

 

[Keihart]

Meh, i find this game pretty mediocre tbh.
At least in hotline miami there is some cool trippy plot coupled with fun and challenging mechanics.
I was never aware of this game and the drama behind it, i though it was just one of those unspired weird games at the bottom of the steam bucket, tried it at some point when it was practically free.

 

[ShirAhava]

This game is pretty awesome never understood the hate pretty surprised its coming to the Switch tho

Unlike a lot of 'great plot' games the gameplay in Hatred is actually fun and has replay value

Reminds me of playing re:loaded back in the day

 

[MiguelItUp]

Honestly the first Postal was a LOT darker than the other games, and Hatred was basically a modern take on the original. Except it was even more "edgy" and exaggerated at times.

I backed it and got it on release and enjoyed it for what it was. Didn't have a ton of longevity, but was a graphically updated original Postal. That was it. Playing the original Postal was pretty memorable for me, so I was like, "Sure, I'll support it!"

I'm both shocked and impressed that Nintendo would allow this. They've come a long way.

 

[drotahorror]

This game is pretty awesome never understood the hate pretty surprised its coming to the Switch tho

Unlike a lot of 'great plot' games the gameplay in Hatred is actually fun and has replay value

Reminds me of playing re:loaded back in the day

Every now and then I think of Re-Loaded and want to go back and play it. Probably janky af nowadays but I do have good memories of it. Same with original Postal.

 

[Gargus]

Its about being a mass shooter.

Not sure why anyone would get a kick out of this tbh. Theres GTA series which is tongue in cheek, then theres this shit.

Context is everything.

I miss when Nintendo had standards.

So mass killing is ok as long as you can accept it. Which you accept it in gta, but its not ok here?

I got a kick out of the game. It was cathartic and fun in the same way as running over people in gta is.

Either its all ok or none of its ok.

 

[IbizaPocholo]