REmake HD and AC: Rogue were announced but not for the Wii U.
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After today, can we officially confirm that third parties are done with Nintendo?
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REmake HD and AC: Rogue were announced but not for the Wii U.
Barry Burton
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To varying degrees (ranging from mediocre support to bad support to virtually no support), this has been the case for almost two decades.
For some bizarre reason, people expect it to change every new Nintendo console, though. Hell, maybe even every new game announcement. I'm pretty sure at this point that we will go through an entire generation of Playstation/Xbox/PC game announcements and continue to get "Why no Wii U?" posts that will still contain a legitimate sense of bewilderment.
For some bizarre reason, people expect it to change every new Nintendo console, though. Hell, maybe even every new game announcement. I'm pretty sure at this point that we will go through an entire generation of Playstation/Xbox/PC game announcements and continue to get "Why no Wii U?" posts that will still contain a legitimate sense of bewilderment.
Architecture and power have almost nothing to do with it. RE HD is coming to 360 after all. BF4 is on last gen as well. It's demographics.
Not unless they stop producing family friendly software and shift their focus entirely to appeal to young males, like the rest of the publishers
Goldenmoney
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Why today? I think it's been known for quite some time. I wouldn't be surprised if Watch Dogs and Project Cars get cancelled, but has it been confirmed that Cod: AW isn't coming?
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Diggeh
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Godzilla's Left Toe
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Was this breaking news or something?
GameAddict411
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its like it was any different for any older nintendo console.
Psycho_Mantis
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You mean WiiU OP.
In which case many knew far before that it was going to get little to no third party support (Japanese and Western).
In which case many knew far before that it was going to get little to no third party support (Japanese and Western).
No, you have to pick a side and be outraged. This reasonable cool-headed attitude will end badly for you.
Ah.
So, the OP should ask whether or not they're done with the Wii U (or their home consoles in general). Companies are still pumping out 3DS games.
Gonzo The Great
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This is why Nintendo will never change. Instead of addressing valid criticisms, the fans will just say "I don't care" or "LOL NINTENDO IS DOOMED." No, Nintendo probably isn't doomed, but the Wii U sure is.
Baron_Calamity
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We are still getting Lego, Disney Infinity, and Skylanders which is really the only 3rd party I'm concerned about for the WiiU. I have a PC for everything else.
The12thGripper
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Doesn't really matter, you buy a Nintendo platform to play Nintendo games. That's how it's always been.
Not even Rayman for me.
Zombiu was good. Since theres no sequel, there isnt a single Activision/EA/Ubisoft game i would buy
But the fact is we really dont care
We buy nintendo systems to escape these EA/Ubisoft/Activision guys. They suck.
DizzyCaffeine
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Yes, of course they care. Nintendo can't release a game every month to shore up the droughts that no 3rd party support will create.
LegendofLex
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Sure, in the sense that Wii U won't fit the "port our games to everything to sell megatons" approach that is ultimately the only reason most of these companies can stay above water, given the bloated team sizes, production values, and marketing budgets.
If there was ever a third-party development ecosystem where games that don't require this business model could live, Nintendo would probably own it. (Pro-tip: there's some evidence that they do already.)
If there was ever a third-party development ecosystem where games that don't require this business model could live, Nintendo would probably own it. (Pro-tip: there's some evidence that they do already.)
Nope. Not longterm. Not as a public company that has to produce results.
You make and sell hardware knowing you will collect third party licensing fees on the backend. That's where the money is. They don't make enough first party software to forgo licensing, and I don't think the market would support the amount of first party software they would need to make to cover the loss of licensing.
First party software is supposed to grow an audience that third parties can sell software to.
Gonzo The Great
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No, it's not. Some of the best NES, SNES, and GCN games ever released were developed by third parties. But let's continue revising history in order to justify every blunder Nintendo makes.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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It's over, Iwata is going to resign and Aonuma's Zelda is going to be cancelled.
The new last gen assassins creed isn't coming out on Wii U or something like that. I think that is what OP was going for.
Would be the best thing they could ever do. The ship has sailed for them to be relevant in the hardware game anymore.
And personally, I don't think it's possible in today's day and age for the market to support three home consoles, as we are seeing right now. There are simply too many other devices for entertainment that did not exist 9 years ago.
And you people keep saying it's ever going to happen. Well guess what, a lot of things we would never see happen, have happened. So just prepare yourself in a few years.
Grass, greener, etc.
Also, until a random person on twitter posts a tweet saying such, it is most definitely not confirmed that third parties are done with Nintendo.
If this is the only solution I'm not sure I want support on Nintendo consoles. If I buy a Nintendo consoles it's not to play the same things I can already play on my PS4.
old manatee
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I buy a Nintendo system to play Nintendo games. 3rd party games are better on pc.
Banjotanooki
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Honestly at this point, the best combo you can go for is Wii U/PC since you'll get all the third party games there and the ninty first party games on the Wii U.
I own a Wii U only and am proud of it. If I wanted to play any third party games, I have Steam for that.
I own a Wii U only and am proud of it. If I wanted to play any third party games, I have Steam for that.
Andodalf
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wow. just wow. Yep. You got everyone!
Did you ever think that maybe you need both to satisfy your consumers?
John Harker
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I don't think I really get what you're trying to say here?
Both CoD: G and AC4 both sold like, half as much in 2013 as their previous iterations did in 2012... and both were generally regarded as good 'ports,' and came out after Zelda and in the Mario 3D World window. And nothing this year has sold anything either.
So, what would you expect?
It's just showing that people don't want it, no revenue generally means resources are better spent elsewhere. That's what really matters - allocation of resources to generate revenue. It's not like it's some 'plot,' a 'story' doesn't exist why people 'jump ship' - publishers just follow the most profitable markets, given the limited resources they have available to them.
When/If something more definitive emerges from the Wii U market, content will come back or evolve to match what the demand is. There's reasons you got Child of Light on Wii U, to test that distribution method as well. (Then again, there was no Valiant Hearts... so take that as you will).
OrbitalBeard
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But it DOES matter.
It may not matter for you, it may not matter for me, hell, it may not matter for the entire GAF community....but to Nintendo, it sure as hell matters.
Without decent third party support, Nintendo is unable to deliver a truly healthy platform and a realistic choice for the vast majority of consumers as a primary console. Most people only purchase one system per generation.
The only way Nintendo is going to survive with zero third party support in the future is by greatly expanding their studios and opening new ones.
KillerMan91
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Gamecube had billion times better third party support than WiiU currently has. It got most of multiplat games.
I HOPE YOU'RE ALL HAPPY NOW ;~; *runs away crying*
Hasn't that ALWAYS been the case? Platform holder aside, ever since the N64, Nintendo for better or worse has been the only developer to support their platforms til everything is said and done.
Third parties either abandon the platform rather early or don't jump in at all.
Btw, I'm talking about AAA titles that come to every single platform but Nintendo's.
There always will be the indie games, minor releases and shovelware but you see my point.
I care.
There have been a ton of great 3rd party games for past Nintendo systems.... plenty exclusives too.
I want Wii U to have the same but it's looking dire.
EGOMON
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Thats why i want Nintendo to have similar hardware to Sony because porting should be easier/cheaper and thus less unit units need to be sold to cover the cost.
It is the reason i believe XBO will never lose 3rd party support even if PS4 LTD is double or triple because the two system are basically the same so porting games to XBO is still viable choice even if games don't sell as much as on PS4 there is still profit to be had.
Totally agree. The GC had 3rd party issues, but even with the poor sales and other factors it was still getting solid 3rd party support and excellent exclusives, largely in part because the console had comparable hardware.
And_Gignac
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Nintendo is a really poorly run company.
All the Wii/DS lottery money could have been invested in their 3rd party independence by opening a couple of new studios.
If the Wii U had at least two first / second party games released every month, its sales performance would be far better without any lost of momentum.
All the Wii/DS lottery money could have been invested in their 3rd party independence by opening a couple of new studios.
If the Wii U had at least two first / second party games released every month, its sales performance would be far better without any lost of momentum.
Jimmyfenix
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Yes because this thread is talking about third parties.
No, it hasn't always been the case. You guys need to stop with the revisionist history. At its worst, GC and N64 still had some support. Less than the SNES, but enough to keep both systems profitable by bringing in licensing fees.
This is different. They have never had a lack of support like this. It's truly unprecedented.
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