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Albums that you love, but are considered 'failures'

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X's "See How We Are" is generally dismissed solely on the grounds that Billy Zoom wasn't playing guitar anymore, but it does have Dave Alvin, the only other guitarist from that scene to do anything resembling what Billy Zoom did. And it has several of my absolute favorite X songs (I'm Lost, See How We Are, 4th of July). Kind of a small tragedy that they don't play any of those songs any more. They do a couple of them sometimes, but as acoustic duets and not full-band arrangements.
 
mattiewheels said:
if you're friends of p', well then you're friends with me.

if you're down with p, well then you're down with me.


I gotta say Into the Sun by Sean Lennon.

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I loved this album but it was pretty much DOA.
 
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I really enjoyed this album, though I know plenty of people who didn't. It was more upbeat, had more lyrical stuff, but I liked it.
 
Not sure if they are considered failures but I never hear ANYTHING about them



Beck - One Foot in the Grave
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Beck - Stereopathetic Soul Manure
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One foot in the grave just got a beautiful rerelease...I think it was just a matter of time for people to realize such an awesome album even existed...I got it in 98, I think.

And as for steropathetic...hell, johnny cash covered a song off of it.
 
mattiewheels said:
One foot in the grave just got a beautiful rerelease...I think it was just a matter of time for people to realize such an awesome album even existed...I got it in 98, I think.


High five. I swear I had it earlier. I know I had Stereopathetic Soul Manure in high school, which would have been 95 or thereabouts. But yeah, One foot in the grave is GREAT.


HOLY SHIT EXTRA TRACKS GALORE. THANK YOU
 
The funny thing about the extra tracks is that I already had them all from the original bootleg tape albums he did in the 80's-90's. Good to have em all shined up though.
 
I dunno, most of my favorite albums were critically acclaimed and sold well....

I loved Pablo Honey, which I think gets too much shit from "real" radiohead fans. Does that count?
 
All Prince:

Graffiti Bridge - Bad enough that this album was tied to a crappy movie but it was pretty much ignored aside from "Thieves in the Temple". I think it's fantastic though. Very lively and upbeat.

Come - As the title implies this is a total sex CD. The first couple tracks totally exude this feeling but it also happens to be rather depressing and dark at times. I think it's amazing though.

The Gold Experience - Critically this CD is considered Prince's best next to Sign of the Times. Commercially however it didn't turn out well. Regardless it is probably the best CD Prince has ever put out. The only ones that come close IMO are Love Symbol and Diamonds & Pearls. Yeah I tend to favor NPG-era Prince. I also think Sign of the Times is a bit overrated so eh.

Emancipation - Although it got a lot of good reviews it also got buried thanks to some ridiculous controversy. Some people say it lacks focus but I see little reason to complain about three hours of some of Prince's best and most unique material(okay there are quite a few covers but they're all quite good IMO). Extremely underrated and I paid like $3 for my copy.

N.E.W.S. - This is a bit of an odd bird. It's a four track(14 minutes apiece) album that's purely jazz instrumental. I think Prince's name was the only reason I picked this up. Regardless it's actually quite good. Then again I'm no jazz fan so eh oh well.

3121 - As far as I'm concerned this is Prince's last great album. Planet Earth was well..yeah and Lotus Flower just feels mundane.
 
beelzebozo said:
i enjoy ROOM ON FIRE more than IS THIS IT at this point in my life, actually. IS THIS IS has tons of style, and it's one of my favorite albums ever, but it does seem a little simple after you've really sank your teeth into their second album.

I'm totally different. I absolutely adore Is This It and can listen to it over and over but for some reason Room on Fire just does not click with me.
 
Fatalah said:
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This album may have killed the band, and dismantled their fan base.

At the same time, there's a small group of people who never liked Panic, but love this album-- like myself.


I'm in that small group. It's ironic really; the band matures musically and their fanbase deserts them.
 
Eltacoman said:
I'm totally different. I absolutely adore Is This It and can listen to it over and over but for some reason Room on Fire just does not click with me.


That's weird they're essentially the same album. I think Room on Fire is a bit tighter, but I like them both a lot.
 
I second all of the mentions of First Impressions of the Earth. I really loved it when it came out, still do, and its probably my most listened to album by them. I honestly don't get the hate it gets, Room on Fire is much worse to me.
 
Fatalah said:
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This album may have killed the band, and dismantled their fan base.

At the same time, there's a small group of people who never liked Panic, but love this album-- like myself.
This album is amazing! and their first sucked...
 
I love One by One from the Foo's, even though it has a few misses, it's the one that introduced me to them and it just has some killer songs on it. Some say Mr. Beast was a misser, but only the song with the japanese dude talking over it was bland to me. Folk Death '95 is such an awesome song. Uhm that's as much as I can think of.
 
johnFkennedy said:
I'm in that small group. It's ironic really; the band matures musically and their fanbase deserts them.

I'm in the opposite group, i loved the first, and i thought this was a huge letdown.
As far as maturing goes i can see where people who weren't fans of AFYCSO would say that, but check the lyrics and the style to the first album, it wasn't "emo" tween pop punk, that's just how it ended up coming across.
 
Return to Saturn wasn't a big hit but I think its a pretty good No Doubt album. Good mixture of their pre and post Tragic Kingdom stuff.
 
Most of the ones that stand out in my mind have been mentioned, but I'll mention them again.

Nelly Furtado - Folklore
Smashing Pumpkins - Adore
Kanye West - 808's & Heartbreaks
A number of Prince albums including the Batman soundtrack, Graffiti Bridge, Chaos & Disorder, 3121, Planet Earth, Lovesexy...etc.
Goo Goo Dolls - Gutterflower
 
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I'm pretty much in the minority thinking that since Californication, the Chili's have become boring. This album is full of energy and experimentation, and I think they needed a cat among the pigeons.
 
pakkit said:
OP, the newer Air straight-up sucked, and I usually hate Pitchfork's reviews.
heh. i really like it. there's a few too many 'here's some moon safari type songs' moments, but they're always inventive to me for the most part.
 
Every Lagwagon album :lol

Especially Double Plaidinum.
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Fun, perhaps ironic factoid for this tpoic: my favorite track on this album is called "Failure."
 
May16 said:
Every Lagwagon album :lol

Especially Double Plaidinum.
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Fun, perhaps ironic factoid for this tpoic: my favorite track on this album is called "Failure."
Double Plaidinum is my favorite Lagwagon release by far.
 
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Because it was the first release after what most consider to be his masterwork, "Songs in the Key of Life," and was wildly different from it, "Journey Through The Secret Life of Plants" was considered, if not a "failure," as dissappointing. For one, it was a soundtrack to a documentary to a film adaptation to the book "Secret Life of Plants," which examined if plants are sentient, if they "thought, felt and moved like we. (from Same Old Story)"

The album was largely instrumental, with a few vocal tracks. If there is only one piece you hear from the album (I would advise listening to the album as one complete work, though), it would have to be "A Seed's A Star/ Tree Medley." Fun fact, this track only appeared briefly in the film, on the car stereo of a scientist driving away from an experiment so that his presence doesn't influence the plants being tested.

In short, I think it's his greatest work, and if you value Stevie as an artist and haven't enjoyed "Journey Through The Secret Life of Plants," then GET ON IT!

Anyhoo, the album is available on ebay or amazon, and the film is watchable on google video. Link
 
Rolio said:

Because it was the first release after what most consider to be his masterwork, "Songs in the Key of Life," and was wildly different from it, "Journey Through The Secret Life of Plants" was considered, if not a "failure," as dissappointing. For one, it was a soundtrack to a documentary to a film adaptation to the book "Secret Life of Plants," which examined if plants are sentient, if they "thought, felt and moved like we. (from [I]Same Old Story[/I])"[/QUOTE]
wow, i have to check that out.

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obviously it's time for me to post a bowie album, and outside remains one of my favorite albums that i loved ever since i was a teenager. i bought it the same day i did 'low', back in 94 or 95, and all i ever hear is that it was a weak album. nonsense, this album is much better than earthling to me, probably because it was a bowie/eno collaboration that mixed electrorock with something similar to the berlin trilogy's songwriting style. it's essential if you're a bowie fan, i think.
 
Gouty said:

The only Pearl Jam album I sort of like.

Of Montreal - Skeletal Lamping
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People totally missed the point of this record. It was way more self-consciously funny than people realize.

Crystal Antlers - Tentacles
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What was the problem here? The EP was great, and this delivers more of that, with a bit more keyboard.

Liars - They Were Wrong So We Drowned
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Awesome record all around. Wrongly dismissed.

Wolf Parade - At Mount Zoomer
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The last half is weak, but Language City and Soldier's Grin deliver.
 
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I like the earnestness, and the resigned/absurd feel on some of the songs.
I also find it to be a strong collection of good pop songs.

It's probably my favorite of Travis' work, but it seemed to be universally dismissed.
 
Polari said:
Er, fair enough but they only actually released one album between Technique (1989) and Get Ready (2001), Republic. Waiting for the Siren's Call was a fucking embarrassment. Even the artwork sucked.

My two would probably be Morrissey's Southpaw Grammar and Manic Street Preachers' Lifeblood.

Well, I thought Waiting for the Siren's Call was fucking great, oh and it had awesome cover art :D
 
This may not be the best pick, as The Beach Boys later released albums that were received MUCH worse than this was/is. But in 1977, The Beach Boys Love You was one of their lowest-charting albums to date. Not to mention that it STILL seems to polarize fans, big-time.

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There's a huge contingent of people who hate the sparse synth-heavy arrangements and rough vocal takes. Others, like myself, think it is Brian Wilson's last true masterpiece. The songs were wonderful. Short, simple, beautiful. It was a true return to form.

It's the only album of its kind that they ever released (Wild Honey might be comparable, but still, not really), a black sheep for better or for worse...but definitely the former, IMHO.

Let's Put Our Hearts Together, Honkin' Down The Highway, Let Us Go On This Way
 
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