Well we've seen Han's entire story that has anything interesting about it. We saw him as we first met him as a scoundrel all the way to him as a father and his death. I don't need to see anything more than that. However I would very much like to see the 2nd last remaining Jedi in his final 20 years and I'd like to see Ewan get another shot at it. I'm still very much on the thought that no one can replace Ford. Be it Han or Indy, I'm just not on board with it.
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Well we've seen Han's entire story that has anything interesting about it. We saw him as we first met him as a scoundrel all the way to him as a father and his death. I don't need to see anything more than that. However I would very much like to see the 2nd last remaining Jedi in his final 20 years and I'd like to see Ewan get another shot at it. I'm still very much on the thought that no one can replace Ford. Be it Han or Indy, I'm just not on board with it.
Bobby Roberts
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There's not really anywhere they can go with the story. When we first meet him in A New Hope, Han is a scoundrel smuggler. A scoundrel smuggler in a dingy, sleazy bar in the greatest wretched hive of scum and villainy in the universe. A scoundrel smuggler in a dingy, sleazy bar in the greatest wretched hive of scum and villainy in the universe who has a bounty on his head leveled by a notorious gangster who's angry at him for being afraid of the Empire. And this new movie has to take place before that. So when it ends, Han has to be a jerk smuggler lacking in courage in a dingy, sleazy bar in the greatest wretched hive of scum and villainy in the universe. So either he's that for the entire movie, or he becomes that over the course of the movie. Neither option sounds intriguing.
I probably like Lord/Miller more than most, but I'm not seeing much room for them to work here.
I probably like Lord/Miller more than most, but I'm not seeing much room for them to work here.
Spyder_Monkey
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Same with the Lego Movie.
SCReuter
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Right on.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Sounds like a fun idea in theory, but I'm skeptical they'll pull it off.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
At least its not Miles Teller
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This is still a really stupid idea.
Jibbajabbawockky
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Ughh.... of all the amazing things you could possibly do with the Star Wars license, this is what they're doing?
Just give me some damn KOTOR movies and I'll be happy. Or just something completely removed from the typical Rebels vs. Empire struggle. I just hate to see a whole universe of stuff relegated to stories about the same handful of characters.
Just give me some damn KOTOR movies and I'll be happy. Or just something completely removed from the typical Rebels vs. Empire struggle. I just hate to see a whole universe of stuff relegated to stories about the same handful of characters.
Haven't seen anything with him in it, but at least he looks more like Harrison Ford than some of the other names that have been rumored. Although he is still far off than that one kid who played young Harrison in that other movie. Anyways, I'm trying to keep an open mind about this movie even though I really don't want it. I think Lord and Miller will make a fun film, and I'm sure I'll ultimately enjoy it, but out of all the things they could do with spin off movies, you do a movie about a barely younger version of Han Solo? Oh well, it's happening, so I'll try to embrace it.
Just give me my damn McGregor Obi-Wan movie and I'll be happy.
Just give me my damn McGregor Obi-Wan movie and I'll be happy.
Lucasfilm executives: "We're not going to make any Star Wars movies or movies based on the other film franchises you purchased in this 4-billion-dollar deal."
Disney executives: "Sounds good."
illmatic22
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A Link to the Past
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I'd prefer a different actor, I think. No idea who, though. I'd also sooner see other spin-offs, like a Boba Fett film and an Obi-Wan film. A Boba Fett film would be interesting - would it be a post-III, pre-IV film? Or would it start where the barge scene in Jedi ended?
Bobby Roberts
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I don't understand the joke you're trying to make.
Disney isn't making Lucasfilm's decisions for them. Disney isn't making Lucasfilm's decisions at all.
Perfect Blue
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It's Phil Lord and Chris Miller. They managed to make The LEGO Movie one of the best films of 2014. 0 chance this film ends up bad.
as ridiculous as it sounds on paper i think that's not a terrible idea... get an actor, CGI harrison's likeness like with bruce willis and JGL in Looper. i mean, the technology is there.
han solo is more iconic than indiana jones in a lot of ways. a different actor is just off putting unless he's playing a pre-teen han or something
Discotheque
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Best part of one of the better movies of the year, hail caesar. Good casting. Still think it's a terrible idea tho
Bobby Roberts
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Brad Bird couldn't miss.
Then there was Tomorrowland.
"But Lindelof!" they will say.
Lindelof didn't come up with the story and direct the film, though.
Then there was Tomorrowland.
"But Lindelof!" they will say.
Lindelof didn't come up with the story and direct the film, though.
Discotheque
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22 jump street kinda sucks
I feel like, as a business, it couldn't make sense for Disney to take a real hands-off approach to purchasing another company for four billion dollars. They obviously expected them to make a lot of movies based on their profitable franchises. If in 2012 Kathleen Kennedy and whomever at Lucasfilm decided they wanted to move on from Star Wars and make a sequel to Willow and original movies like Red Tails, I don't think Disney would have just let them do their thing.
Perfect Blue
Banned
For a sequel to a film that really should have been a one off, I enjoyed it decently enough.
Bobby Roberts
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But they do. They don't fuck with Marvel, they don't fuck with Lucasfilm, and they don't fuck with Pixar. They are hands-off with all three of those purchases, and have been since they purchased 'em. Hell, in Pixar's case, they let Pixar execs put their hands on Disney shit. It went the other way from what you're suggesting.
They take a hands-off approach because the shit is working just fine without 'em. That's why they bought 'em.
edit: I think the closest thing to creative interference out of all three of those acquisitions happened when Feige basically pushed Perlmutter out of the movie division. At which point their interference was done so as to allow Marvel a clearer creative vision, not to insert their own alongside of it.
Pop-O-Matic
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I meant CGI young Harrison Ford onto old Harrison Ford.
He'd make a great Young Kylo Ren, though.
Ninja Scooter
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I'm still doubtful that this can be pulled off, Ford is just too closely identified with the role, but getting a good actor instead of a cheap Ford imitator is definitely a step in the right direction.
crackhead_bob
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How old will this Han Solo be? And what time period will this cover? Will the Empire factor heavily into this story, or will it be more of a blip, with more of the spotlight being focused on the criminal underworld?
While I'm not convinced that this story needed to be done, I'm not fervently against this story either. Right now, there's Rogue One and Han Solo. As far as these anthology stories go going forward, what timeline will probably be off limits, as far as not encroaching on future trilogy timelines? Will most of the anthology films reside in the OT timeline, or is there a chance Lucasfilm might decide to make an anthology film set during this current trilogy?
While I'm not convinced that this story needed to be done, I'm not fervently against this story either. Right now, there's Rogue One and Han Solo. As far as these anthology stories go going forward, what timeline will probably be off limits, as far as not encroaching on future trilogy timelines? Will most of the anthology films reside in the OT timeline, or is there a chance Lucasfilm might decide to make an anthology film set during this current trilogy?
I mean, this is a company that before being bought out in 2012 had made 6 films since 1990, and now they're releasing a film a year, 6 films in 6 years. I'm not saying anything about "creative" decisions, I'm talking about business decisions.
Bobby Roberts
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And all of these movies are things Lucasfilm had planned before the sale to Disney. Every one of 'em.
I know the narrative that Disney is shoving their thumb in Lucasfilm's pie is a tasty one. Same thing happened when Marvel got bought. The only difference is that after Marvel had their first huge success under the Disney umbrella, people stopped talking about Mickey Mouse making Iron Man do things, and eventually, everyone forgot that was ever a thing they entertained. To the point where people don't even consider the possibility anymore. Nobody refers to any of Marvel's successes as anything but Marvel's.
Whereas with Lucasfilm, nothing is Lucasfilm's. It's all "Disney." Which is probably because so many people are so used to equating everything Star Wars to George Lucas (whether they shoulda been doing that or not) and it's easier to just swap out one single-named multimedia monolith (Disney) for the other (Lucas) when assigning super-convenient scapegoats for things we don't like.
Keeps things nice and easy that way.
I don't know why, that's specifically what I was talking about in the post you responded to. Creative decisionmaking. There's no reason to put it in quotes.
Lucas started work on the sequel trilogy and spinoff movies before he decided "Fuck it" and sold the company to Disney. The company was gonna do this shit regardless who was owning 'em.
DarkArterialGore
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So young Han Solo has a worse hairline than present day Harrison Ford...
What did he mean by this?
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I could be excited for a Obi Wan movie if 99% of the fanplots I read arent Kenobi of Arabia about fighting sand people for 2 hours.
Meanwhile, seeing how Han and Chewie met will be priceless. Plus young Lando!
Meanwhile, seeing how Han and Chewie met will be priceless. Plus young Lando!
Unlikely to be the case. Kasdan already said it's not an origin story in the strict sense.
I fully expect Han and Chewie to already be paired up at this point. They're seriously going to miss an opportunity if they don't have young Lando in there as well though, especially if he has the Falcon at this point.
Also, I'd love it if Sana was involved in the movie but that's basically impossible since Kasdan pays no attention to the non-movie stories.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Hey, where IS young Lando?
How come LFL isn't getting David Walker on the horn to make Blackstar Warrior a reality?
They already got the behind the scenes doc ready to go.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Huh. Didn't even occur to me this could be a possibility. But it seems really obvious it should happen, now that you say it.
I bet everyone on that planet has sideburns.
everyone.
Well you were responding to a guy who typed "Disneyyyyy!!!!!", seemingly complaining about this movie's sheer existence, not about nitty gritty decisions in the creative process. So to me, that's a complaint about "business" decisions, although the distinction is very vague since we're talking about a creative industry, so to speak.
I'm sure Disney gives their divisions "creative" autonomy in some sense, like this casting news here and the general development of these projects, but we're still talking about a business that bought another business. This isn't a "you do you" kind of situation where if Lucasfilm decided to throw caution to the wind and develop, I don't know, another Red Tails, then Disney would watch as things unfold. The whole purpose of these enterprises is to make money.
I just looked it up and here's an LA Times article where Lawrence Kasdan talks about the development of this movie:
I obviously don't have a lot of info about what's going on behind the scenes with these things. but if they only conceived of this movie weeks before Lucasfilm was sold, it doesn't seem very far-fetched that George Lucas and whomever at Lucasfilm only started developing these movies to move the deal forward with Disney, as in "these are the projects that will pay dividends on the investment you're making."
There will have to be some twist to the storyline. A straight ahead Han Solo story doesn't sound very engaging. If Rogue One is leaning towards a heist movie, I'm wondering what genre this will be based around?
Open minded at the approach, but this idea feels like it's legs got longer after they decided the fate of the character in TFA.
Open minded at the approach, but this idea feels like it's legs got longer after they decided the fate of the character in TFA.
To be fair the entire genesis of the Star Wars sequels has been from a massive corporation seeing an opportunity to make billions.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
The movie's "sheer existence" was a creative decision.
C'mon man. It's pretty obvious the point I'm making. It's not hard to parse.
They bought Lucasfilm. Lucasfilm makes Star Wars shit. Lucasfilm is making Star Wars shit. This is Star Wars shit they had planned before Disney bought Lucasfilm.
The narrative that Disney is pulling Lucasfilm's strings is a false one. They don't have to. Kathleen Kennedy's already got the strings. Lucas himself gave them to her. She's doing really well so far. Nobody at Disney's gotta do shit. Why would they?
And that's why I'm addressing your points!
bonesmccoy
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Oh, everyone forgot about Lucas' ideas for a sequels and spin-offs. I'm old and grumpy enough to remember when people were legit concerned about JJ meeting with him to discuss story ideas.
Always been like this after the 1st one was so successful.
Always been like this after the 1st one was so successful.
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