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Alice: Madness Returns screens and teasers trailer

The level design jobs at Spicy Horse ask for experience with UE3, and I believe this is the only game they are working on so I guess it really is using UE3!! Yay texture pop in galore!
 
Keep reading people complaining about the brown in the op screenshots
You guys do realize theres more screens and concept art on the site that show off the games pallet right? Who cares if one section is brown
 
The M.O.B said:
The level design jobs at Spicy Horse ask for experience with UE3, and I believe this is the only game they are working on so I guess it really is using UE3!! Yay texture pop in galore!
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Grimm uses UE3 too, this is most likely based on UE3. I think Nirolak meant that Color Palettes are not related to the game engine, it's more related to the developer than the engine, a UE3 game doesn't automatically look brown/grey with bald space marines in it. Grimm doesn't look like any other UE3 game for example, game is gorgeous and colorful so is Alice.
 
The M.O.B said:
The level design jobs at Spicy Horse ask for experience with UE3, and I believe this is the only game they are working on so I guess it really is using UE3!! Yay texture pop in galore!
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yeah that happened a lot in me2 and gears 2, damn ue3!
 
I don't like the artstyle at all. Alice is kinda sexy, and I'm tired of these "dark mature cartoony" stuff. It seems like every colorful game these days needs to be mature and violent or something :(
 
RockmanWhore said:
I don't like the artstyle at all. Alice is kinda sexy, and I'm tired of these "dark mature cartoony" stuff. It seems like every colorful game these days needs to be mature and violent or something :(
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Buy a Wii, dude. De Blob, Wario, Klonoa, Mario Galaxy, Zelda...

I'm hyped to high heaven for this game. Even though I'm sad American McGee's Oz is gone.
 
The other two screens the OP is missing:

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RockmanWhore said:
It seems like every colorful game these days needs to be mature and violent or something :(
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I've always thought Alice in Wonderland works better in a twisted horror flavor than the Disney/Burton childish approach. It's a pretty fucking bizarre universe and I think doing it the old kiddy way sort of robs some of the creative and atmospheric potential.

Whenever I see the weird shit of Alice in Wonderland, I always find myself wishing it were trying to creep me out rather than be cutesy.
 
RockmanWhore said:
I don't like the artstyle at all. Alice is kinda sexy, and I'm tired of these "dark mature cartoony" stuff. It seems like every colorful game these days needs to be mature and violent or something :(
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It´s the sequel of a dark and twisted game, based on dark and twisted books. What did you expect? rainbows and fairies?
 
Wow! It's a sequel to that game that took Alice in Wonderland, a creepy, violent universe and made it creepy and violent! Todd McFarlane to make the toys! Jeph Loeb to write the comic tie in!

I'M SHITTING RAINBOW HAPPINESS!
 
Some more concept art:

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The inside of the floating clocks perhaps.

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The fortress in the OP.

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These two look like the interior of the fortress.
 
Acosta said:
It´s the sequel of a dark and twisted game, based on dark and twisted books. What did you expect? rainbows and fairies?
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Dark and twisted? Oh come on, they're just abnormal kid books. Harry Potter is "darker" than Alice in Wonderland.
 
Dance In My Blood said:
Dark and twisted? Oh come on, they're just abnormal kid books. Harry Potter is "darker" than Alice in Wonderland.
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:lol :lol

You may want to go back and reread those as an adult. They're more fucked up than any video game McGee can shit out.
 
Woah at the art.

It´s interesting because it seeems like the Queen's throne of the first game is empty in one of the art pics, wonder if it has any meaning.

Dance In My Blood said:
Dark and twisted? Oh come on, they're just abnormal kid books. Harry Potter is "darker" than Alice in Wonderland.
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:lol :lol :lol
 
I could really give a shit about comparisons made to other pieces of the Alice universe including the source of it all compared to a sequel to McGee's Alice.

Fuck
Yes
 
I'm sorry, but are people calling Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, the original books, the ones by Lewis Carroll dark and twisted? I read them a few months back in anticipation for the Alice in Wonderland movie and I picked up absolutely no dark and twisted themes. Just a kid's imagination at work. Even the King is implied to simply pardon everyone who is ordered to be executed when the queen has her back turned. It's as harmless as harmless can get as far as I see. Anyone want to point out exactly what dark horrors I never caught lurk in the books?
 
farnham said:
well he did a good job on the first one (although it was kinda clunky)

but after that his career took a dive
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Not sure what all he did after Alice, but I thought Scraplands was actually pretty good. I'll have to install that again, thanks for reminding me. :D
 
i hope they live up to the expectations and don't screw up the legacy of a great game.
 
Wow, looks amazing. Day 1 for sure.

ICallItFutile said:
Has the first game aged well?
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The gameplay? No, but even back in the day the gameplay was pretty mediocre. The atmosphere of the first game is still pretty unique and awesome though.
 
Seeing the pc box back when they were large of the first one creeped me out when i was younger, i never got a chance to play it :(

I bought thps2 for pc that day
 
Looks incredible. I never finished the first game but I loved it regardless. I'm going to play the bejesus out of this one.
 
Generic said:
I'm sorry, but are people calling Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, the original books, the ones by Lewis Carroll dark and twisted? I read them a few months back in anticipation for the Alice in Wonderland movie and I picked up absolutely no dark and twisted themes. Just a kid's imagination at work. Even the King is implied to simply pardon everyone who is ordered to be executed when the queen has her back turned. It's as harmless as harmless can get as far as I see. Anyone want to point out exactly what dark horrors I never caught lurk in the books?
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I really am struggling to believe you just read them if you claim there is nothing fucked about Carroll's There have been entire books dedicated to dissecting his themes. This is not a GAF theory...it is pretty well established and I am guessing a precursory Google search would help you out. Adding mascara and a Loeb-ian plot "twist" does not equate to dark and twisted. I had a very hard time controlling the rolling motion of my eyeballs playing through this when it came out. It had some fun parts here and there, but the big draw seemed to be the world, which I personally was wholly unimpressed with. But to each, etc, etc.
 
Snaku said:
BTW, Barnes & Noble is giving away the eBook of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass for FREE.
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As they should, aren't the books in the public domain?

Generic said:
I'm sorry, but are people calling Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, the original books, the ones by Lewis Carroll dark and twisted? I read them a few months back in anticipation for the Alice in Wonderland movie and I picked up absolutely no dark and twisted themes. Just a kid's imagination at work. Even the King is implied to simply pardon everyone who is ordered to be executed when the queen has her back turned. It's as harmless as harmless can get as far as I see. Anyone want to point out exactly what dark horrors I never caught lurk in the books?
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I would agree that Alice isn't "dark", but there's almost nothing "kiddy" in Alice. The books are considered the primary example of nonsense literature, all characters are complex and have many layers. There's also a lot of puzzles and riddles and games with the english language, a lot of things that kids simply wouldn't understand. It is aimed at kids though, but it isn't a simple fairytale.

This is something that I really didn't like about the Disney movies, they had to change the story and adapt it to a more conventional structure, with a heroine and a villain, and the usual beginning, conflict and climatic ending. That just isn't at all what Alice is about, there are not villains and there are no friends, there isn't an objective or a battle or the need for a resolution, the whole thing is really just completely bonkers and should stay that way.
 
WanderingWind said:
I really am struggling to believe you just read them if you claim there is nothing fucked about Carroll's There have been entire books dedicated to dissecting his themes. This is not a GAF theory...it is pretty well established and I am guessing a precursory Google search would help you out. Adding mascara and a Loeb-ian plot "twist" does not equate to dark and twisted. I had a very hard time controlling the rolling motion of my eyeballs playing through this when it came out. It had some fun parts here and there, but the big draw seemed to be the world, which I personally was wholly unimpressed with. But to each, etc, etc.
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And I'm not saying it's simple, just that it's not dark and twisted. To me, dark and twisted is something like say, Coraline, where as an adult you see the true implications of what is going on, the true idea of a child being robbed of parents and having children kidnapped and imprisoned. THOSE are dark themes. Alice's adventure was far more complex than you can expect any child to fully grasp, with my personal favorite logical inquiries coming from the cheshire cat, but there was nothing dark about it, with very few exceptions (I remember Alice contemplating jumping off the house at one point when falling through the rabbit hole, but that's all).
mantidor said:
I would agree that Alice isn't "dark", but there's almost nothing "kiddy" in Alice. The books are considered the primary example of nonsense literature, all characters are complex and have many layers. There's also a lot of puzzles and riddles and games with the english language, a lot of things that kids simply wouldn't understand. It is aimed at kids though, but it isn't a simple fairytale.
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Exactly what I meant.
 
Looks very good... the original was a pretty good, original game, and it's fantastic to see it back. Impressive screenshots, it definitely looks like the original game, and that's a very good thing. The original had such an original, unique look, and it's very good that they aren't changing it. Looks good so far.

Of course, it'd also be great to see American McGee making definitely great games again, hopefully... :)
 
On one hand Alice was great, and the art here looks fantastic. I'm loving the design for the skeletal card soldiers, their faces representing their suit.

On the other hand, McGee hasn't made a good game since Alice, and I dont really have any reason to be confident he'll turn around just because this happens to be based on his only successful and quality IP.

Please be good.
 
Is this game a direct sequel or something? If it isn't, I'd get the PS3 version.

I've never played the original Alice but I wanted to.
 
I'm assuming shes finally going to fight the Mad Hatter in this one? I was let down that she didn't really face him in the first game
just some mechanical decoy instead

Also is it true that Lewis Caroll was a child molester?
 
Why do people keep giving money to American McGee to make games? Thats gotta be one of gaming's oddest conundrums.

You folks getting excited for this should be ashamed. Seriously.
 
Sinatar said:
Why do people keep giving money to American McGee to make games? Thats gotta be one of gaming's oddest conundrums.

You folks getting excited for this should be ashamed. Seriously.
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Fuck off.
 
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