So accurate. Perfect ranking.
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Alien Flim rankings
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So accurate. Perfect ranking.
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Lol
Fancy Clown
Member
Hmmm you've convinced me
One Eyed Willy
Member
IMO
Aliens >>>> Alien >> everything else
Aliens >>>> Alien >> everything else
ResidentWeevil13
Member
So I did some reading on these earlier scripts. Apparently there's a bunch of them.
There's a script where the alien is passed by a contagion, and some lady gets infected and then rips off her skin to reveal a xenomorph underneath during a board meeting. Lol
Another takes place on a man-made planet that was built with wood (what!?) and the inhabitants of the planet are monks that refuse to use any kind of electricity.
Some out there stuff for sure haha
There's a script (they discussed it on the avp galaxy podcast) 2 completely crazy ideas but so wel fitting for the universe.
Worth a listen imo
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=56981.0
Monocle
Member
I'm coming at this from the perspective that a good Alien film is at its heart a moody encounter with cosmic horror, where there are elements of building tension and grotesque discovery, and then the characters are forced into a desperate struggle for survival. The mood is like 90% of it though. If the mood fails, the movie fails. For me Prometheus nailed the atmosphere and sense of discovery, and Alien 3 did not. The random creatures in Prometheus might not make sense (although I'm willing to accept that the black goo does different things in different situations), but they're all gross and vicious, and most importantly they're presented effectively.
I think Alien 3's cinematography is so unappealing, and there's nothing interesting or mysterious about a dull industrial setting. That, and I found the characters to be much less sympathetic than those in Prometheus. I don't like the characters' culture. A one-dimensional cult that doesn't even have any eccentric beliefs or practices to define them is just obnoxious.
Alien 3's atmosphere and alien elements fall totally flat for me. The film just doesn't offer anything I like in an Alien movie. It's almost like a fan film where the production team has a Xenomorph suit or puppet or whatever, and they've found some sort of industrial location to shoot in, but nobody understands how to use shadow or sound or movement or dramatic timing to establish a mood. They're completely hopeless when it comes making their creature scary. It's just a really ugly lizard that tears into people I don't care about. No mystique to it at all.
Fancy Clown
Member
I dunno, Prometheus doesn't establish a mood or setting to me at all. The geography has no character or sense of place (not helped when even the mapper dude gets lost in its series of identical tunnels). Alien 3 at least attempted to flesh out its location with a unique culture and personality, and it has a good sense of gothic dread about it. I can't agree with the visuals either. Prometheus looks good, but it's too slick for me. I mean look at this stuff, it looks right out of like a Basinski/Francis Bacon mashup:
I guess if you're only interested in the series for creature killing people then maybeee I could get liking Prometheus more, but that angle didn't work for me either since the characters were so poor and the film almost never even tried building suspense outside of the C-Section scene. Alien 3 did right by its most important characters at least, and they actually felt like real characters who behave like human beings and have clear motivations and conflicts. Prometheus is so scattershot with everything from the characters to the creatures that there's nothing consistent for me to sink my teeth into.
I thought Prometheus only had the atmosphere at the very start, when things started happening it fell apart. Just a jumble of events loosely connected by magic black goo and David jumping us to whatever scene was required next.
And the creature design was amateur level, it's like someone just went penises and vaginas that's Alien right! The multivagina thing that gobbled up the Engineer was pure shite.
And the creature design was amateur level, it's like someone just went penises and vaginas that's Alien right! The multivagina thing that gobbled up the Engineer was pure shite.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Clown doing the Lord's work in here.
What does this even mean, really. Of course it's an Alien movie. So was Prometheus.
You guys act like a bad movie in a series somehow negates it from the series. It doesn't. There's no purity test for admittance into the canon. That decision was made for you before you even knew the film was going to exist. Alien 3 is an Alien movie because the people who make Alien movies made it, and put stuff from the Alien movies in it.
What does an "Alien" movie "Feel" like, anyway? Even the two most successful ones don't "feel" anything alike for the most part, despite sharing a character, a planet, and a fictional universe.
You guys are so precious with your entertainments, carefully boxing them and setting them on a shelf where dirty things can't get to them. I don't get it.
Your favorite film series has shit movies in it.
It's okay.
What does this even mean, really. Of course it's an Alien movie. So was Prometheus.
You guys act like a bad movie in a series somehow negates it from the series. It doesn't. There's no purity test for admittance into the canon. That decision was made for you before you even knew the film was going to exist. Alien 3 is an Alien movie because the people who make Alien movies made it, and put stuff from the Alien movies in it.
What does an "Alien" movie "Feel" like, anyway? Even the two most successful ones don't "feel" anything alike for the most part, despite sharing a character, a planet, and a fictional universe.
You guys are so precious with your entertainments, carefully boxing them and setting them on a shelf where dirty things can't get to them. I don't get it.
Your favorite film series has shit movies in it.
It's okay.
Aliens isn't "an alien movie", and it was never trying to be.
It took the series in a very natural direction story wise, and things escalated in keeping with the original premise.
Like, really, it's an incredible example of just how to do a sequel, ie: take the premise and expand on it in a way that it perhaps would in reality, instead of rehashing shit and sticking to the same genre as the first because "that's what you do".
All three Back to the Future movies are good though!
TacosNSalsa
Member
Alien = Aliens to me ..I won't choose , I enjoy both immensely whenever I watch them . Everything else I just thrown in a pile ..I'll watch em as I think they make great background noise .
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Yeah, Back to the Future 3 is the least of the films but I don't know that I'd call it bad.
I also wouldn't call Godfather III bad either. So that's TWO exceptions.
andythinkpad
Member
1 Aliens
2 Alien
That's it.
2 Alien
That's it.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
We got a third exception!
(we're not careful this is going to turn into a All Time Best Film Series ranking thread)
(which would be fine)
(until we get to the part where people start arguing that a bunch of films in the same film series isn't really a film series because of x)
Fancy Clown
Member
How many Oscars did Battle of the Five Armies get?
wesleyshark
Banned
It's an Alien movie. So was Prometheus. You're in denial.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
sixteen-bit
Member
I've only seen the first two films. For me it's Alien > Aliens
What about Toy Story?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
WE'RE BACK IN THE GAME.
Toy Story series: Third exception.
Toy Story series: Third exception.
ForsakenLotus
Member
Alien>Aliens>who cares?
Violence Jack
Member
Alien = Aliens >>> Alien 3 (Assembly Cut) >>> Prometheus >>>>>>>> Alien 3 (Theatrical Cut) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AvP >>Alien Resurrection >>>>>>> AvP: R
And as noted above, the commentary for Alien 3 is way better than the actual movie.
And as noted above, the commentary for Alien 3 is way better than the actual movie.
Does Civil War count?
Silver linings.
It's not really a shoot fest. There are three scenes where people fight the aliens - the first encounter in the hive, where they get their ass kicked. The second after the aliens work around the barricades - and the humans lose more than half of the survivors. And then when Ripley goes into the hive to get Newt. There are long, sustained portions of the film with no action, it's not a film where they "shoot for two hours". And each action scene has a pretty long and sustained build up.
I do agree Cameron made a mistake in anchoring the life cycle and hive around ants, as that made the alien....less alien. I really like the one implied in the original film and confirmed in the extended cut Scott did (though I know his 'director's cut' is the theatrical'). I like the idea of Lambert's question, "I wonder what happened to the rest of the crew?" having the answer - they're the eggs in the cargo hold. That's pretty fucked up, but was the original intent. Oh well.
At any rate -
Alien = Aliens >>>>>>>> Prometheus >>>>>>>>> Alien 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alien Resurrection
I'm hopeful Covenant is the best film since Aliens.
Alien 1 en 2 are masterpieces imo. They also hold up very well. The third one is not very good at all, but I can still get some enjoyment out of it. Prometheus was so boring that I watched it twice and still don 't remember anything from the film.
Alien: resurrection is such a weird movie to me. I think it starts out pretty decent. I like the part en the idea of the company experimenting with people and face huggers and stuff. But then it goes off rails very fast. You get that basketball scene where Ripley get superpowers or something and they don't do anything with it for the rest of the movie. The last part still baffles me with her embracing the alien and with that hybrid which looks terrible. Who thought that was a good idea?
Alien: resurrection is such a weird movie to me. I think it starts out pretty decent. I like the part en the idea of the company experimenting with people and face huggers and stuff. But then it goes off rails very fast. You get that basketball scene where Ripley get superpowers or something and they don't do anything with it for the rest of the movie. The last part still baffles me with her embracing the alien and with that hybrid which looks terrible. Who thought that was a good idea?
Yep, they're from the planet Correct Opinion.
Oh snap, looks like someone got Chestbursted!
Nah, the Alien from Alien 1 kill unnarmed and untrained goons and even still he's defeated by Ripley because he's slow as fuck. I mean, just look at the scene where the Alien kills Lambert and Parker, if they were marines that Alien wouldn't have lasted 5 seconds by how slow he was.
The marines are top trained humans with the best weapons available and they pretty much get their asses kicked instantly when they enter the hive. They're at the end as smart as the Alien 1 version, just they now have a queen so they seems to be more insect-like.
The only part where the Aliens felt downplayed is when Ripley goes all Rambo to the nest to save Newt, and maybe the scene where Vazquez kill that Alien in the vents with hanging his head with her foot.
Come on, mcz, this one proves you don't even remember the film you're discussing.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
For me,
Great movies:
Aliens
Alien
Whatever, its a movie:
Alien 3
Prometheus
LOL get this shit out of my face, this is embarrassing:
Alien: Resurrection
AVP etc
Great movies:
Aliens
Alien
Whatever, its a movie:
Alien 3
Prometheus
LOL get this shit out of my face, this is embarrassing:
Alien: Resurrection
AVP etc
She kills the alien in the vent with a pistol. She puts her foot on its head to hold it there, shoots it, and gets her leg fucked up because of the acidforbloods.
Also, by the time Ripley went hive diving, the majority of the aliens had been killed. If I remember correctly the numbers have been crunched and there was around 150-160 aliens (max) when the marines arrived on LV426. And that's if they cocooned every colonist, and many would have died outright in the skirmish.
Then we consider how many the Marines took out in their first foray into the hive, dem Sentry Gunz (lots of auto pew), and the "we didn't miss anything" *looks up* fight, there probably weren't many left to contend with. What we saw was probably all there was left, and I think they showed Ripley handling those she did realistically.
Tony Redgrave
Member
Alien
Aliens
Prometheus
Alien 3 Assembly Cut
Everything else is a spin-off.
Hoping Covenant takes a very respectable third place in that rank.
Aliens
Prometheus
Alien 3 Assembly Cut
Everything else is a spin-off.
Hoping Covenant takes a very respectable third place in that rank.
It's a better version in every way except for the unnecessary scenes at the colony before the incident. It kind of ruins the mystery of what happened and is generally not a well acted sequence. If there were a cut that excised those parts and kept everything else it would be perfect.
Yep. Everything on HH are a drag/not required. The rest are excellent additions.
Although I think Hudson's additional speech on the dropship is a bit much, I could leave that.