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Smiles and Cries said:
you guys may be reading too much into that Sky Whale, unless it has been confirmed to be a boss battle. Has it?

Well, it does look more like Link is racing against it, but those giants eyeballs are kind of telling it's gonna be a boss fight.
 
Andrex said:
It may be that the sky people are in the sky because everyone on the ground is fighting eachother.
I think they're up there because that's where the gods put them and they are too cuccoo to go down below and see it's not as bad as they thought. I'm hoping something forces them to leave Skyloft though, rather than them just choosing to go.
 
Lord Ghirahim said:
Was the brain stabbing really that impressive? OoT ended in a similar fashion.

That wasn't my favorite part of the ending actually. It was cool, but everything leading up to it, and after it was incredible.

First you have Ganondorf's excellent speech that show his motivations. Then you have this great final battle. And after the stabbing, they wash away Hyrule - a sort of somber, bitter sweet ending. It was damn near perfect.

Shame Nintendo decided to ruin the wonder of the ending with Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks.
 
Tuck said:
That wasn't my favorite part of the ending actually. It was cool, but everything leading up to it, and after it was incredible.

First you have Ganondorf's excellent speech that show his motivations. Then you have this great final battle. And after the stabbing, they wash away Hyrule - a sort of somber, bitter sweet ending. It was damn near perfect.

Shame Nintendo decided to ruin the wonder of the ending with Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks.
?

What does Spirit Tracks have to do with WW?
 
Tuck said:
Shame Nintendo decided to ruin the wonder of the ending with Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks.
Now now. While Spirit Tracks Hyrule isn't how I invisioned the new world, Spirit Tracks definitely has some of the best characterization every in a Zelda game. The final battle and ending are extremely memorable.

Jaded Alyx said:
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What does Spirit Tracks have to do with WW?
... it's a sequel.
 
Jaded Alyx said:
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What does Spirit Tracks have to do with WW?

Don't really want to go further off topic but:

At the end of Wind Waker, the king talks about how they should go find a new land, but it won't be Hyrule - it would be their land. The game implies heavily that it was almost like the last Legend of Zelda - the end of the line. That afterward it wouldn't just be a hard reset with a new Link and Zelda. It would be something else. What exactly? Who knows - that was part of the greatness of the ending.

But that is exactly what it was (Spirit Tracks). New Hyrule, new Link, New Zelda. The wonder of the ending was ruined. Plus, the new Hyrule was covered in magical freaking train tracks, just cause Nintendo wanted to have Link ride a train.

As for Phantom Hourglass, it didn't really contribute to the ruining of Wind Waker's ending. However, story wise, it was just so unnecessary.

EDIT: I will admit however that the final boss in ST was pretty cool. And the ending was somewhat sad (Though thank god they sent those stupid Lokomo back to where they came from).

EDIT 2: Added spoiler tags just in case.
 
I don't think Spirit Tracks takes place in any sort of canon.

Zelda herself mentions that she comes from a long line of princesses being saved. And, well, there's ancient-ass stuff all around.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
I don't think Spirit Tracks takes place in any sort of canon.

What? It's a sequel to PH, which is a sequel to WW. C'mon, that pirate dude is there and he directly references the Link from Wind Waker.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
I don't think Spirit Tracks takes place in any sort of canon.

Zelda herself mentions that she comes from a long line of princesses being saved. And, well, there's ancient-ass stuff all around.
What are you talking about? Spirit Tracks takes place 100 years after Wind Waker approximately. The treasures are just proof that it was once a part of Hyrule. We don't see the whole scale of the Hyrule world in any of the Zelda games.
 
Tuck said:
EDIT: I will admit however that the final boss in ST was pretty cool. And the ending was somewhat sad (Though thank god they sent those stupid Lokomo back to where they came from).
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Maybe you would have preferred this ending.
 
IceDoesntHelp said:
mind putting a spoiler on some of that? I haven't even played Spirit Tracks, and now I'm not sure I want to.
Also whats wrong with magical train tracks? ;_;

Done. I don't think they are needed, since I didn't reveal anything about the ending or major details about ST, only Wind Waker. But alright.

And the magical train tracks was just plain stupid. Near 'Werehog' levels of stupid, IMO. They wanted Link in a train and built the story around it. I guess that is what they usually do - but this time it ended up being very silly.
 
....Guess I should get round to actually finishing Spirit Tracks...


Tuck said:
Done. I don't think they are needed, since I didn't reveal anything about the ending or major details about ST, only Wind Waker. But alright.

And the magical train tracks was just plain stupid. Near 'Werehog' levels of stupid, IMO. They wanted Link in a train and built the story around it. I guess that is what they usually do - but this time it ended up being very silly.

Check your post again. Your spoiler tags are broken.

EDIT: Ok, all fixed I see.
 
Tuck said:
And the magical train tracks was just plain stupid. Near 'Werehog' levels of stupid, IMO. They wanted Link in a train and built the story around it. I guess that is what they usually do - but this time it ended up being very silly.
I liked it. :(
 
I think the trains were fine for a one-off thing, but I'm glad it was a portable title instead of a console entry.
 
I really like the train in ST as well. It was really nice to see Link passionate about something other than saving the world.
 
Andrex said:
I think the trains were fine for a one-off thing, but I'm glad it was a portable title instead of a console entry.
A console Zelda game with trains could turn out to be a very, very interesting idea though. Think of it this way, if the equivalent of WW is PH.. then ST would make an interesting overworld for link.
 
Lord Ghirahim said:
I didn't mind the locomotive silliness, it was the lack of a proper Zelda field that offended me.

That's happened a lot though. Wind Waker, Spirit Tracks, Phantom Hourglass, and now, seemingly (Though we can't yet be certain), Skyward Sword.

Spirit Tracks was just the worst implementation of the 'No Hyrule field' over world. (Yes, worse than the boat)
 
ShockingAlberto said:
I don't think Spirit Tracks takes place in any sort of canon.

Zelda herself mentions that she comes from a long line of princesses being saved. And, well, there's ancient-ass stuff all around.
What? She says she's descended from Tetra. There's a huge stained glass window of Tetra in the throne room at the beginning of the game.
Zelda prays to Tetra at the end for power.
Nico from Wind Waker is still alive and new Link's roommate. They talk about Link and Tetra settling the new land and the land is called New Hyrule.

Tuck said:
Done. I don't think they are needed, since I didn't reveal anything about the ending or major details about ST, only Wind Waker. But alright.

And the magical train tracks was just plain stupid. Near 'Werehog' levels of stupid, IMO. They wanted Link in a train and built the story around it. I guess that is what they usually do - but this time it ended up being very silly.
The train thing felt out of place, but they gave a good reason for why there were magical train tracks and driving the train was more fun than the boat in PH. Like I said, it wasn't what I expected from WW's ending, but ST is a seriously memorable game.
 
I could swear there was a Zelda game with a cannon that shot you to a floating island?

did I dream that up? If not what is the connection?


BY2K said:
Well, it does look more like Link is racing against it, but those giants eyeballs are kind of telling it's gonna be a boss fight.


Just like Link had a race with a giant strange ass bird-bat in TP
it was not a boss fight but a race
 
Link and Zelda's relationship in Spirit Tracks is definitely one of the reasons to play the game. Best Princess Zelda ever by far. Nice after they ruined Tetra in PH.
 
RagnarokX said:
Link and Zelda's relationship in Spirit Tracks is definitely one of the reasons to play the game. Best Princess Zelda ever by far. Nice after they ruined Tetra in PH.

okay now curious to play the DS Zeldas which I have skipped
 
RagnarokX said:
Link and Zelda's relationship in Spirit Tracks is definitely one of the reasons to play the game. Best Princess Zelda ever by far. Nice after they ruined Tetra in PH.
From what we've seen so far, SS Zelda beats them all.
 
Smiles and Cries said:
okay now curious to play the DS Zeldas which I have skipped
I'm not as negative about Phantom Hourglass as others, but it is completely inconsequential to WW and ST. It's a self contained sidestory which, while I enjoyed it, is overshadowed by improvements made by ST. ST is definitely more fun to play and has the better story. PH is skipable. However, you can just rent both of them and depending on how busy you are beat each one in a week.
 
Nintendo-4Life said:
A console Zelda game with trains could turn out to be a very, very interesting idea though. Think of it this way, if the equivalent of WW is PH.. then ST would make an interesting overworld for link.

Off topic, but this reminds me we haven't gotten a TP offshoot yet, which is kind of a bumber.

Then again from what I hear of PH/ST maybe I shouldn't want that. :P
 
Andrex said:
Off topic, but this reminds me we haven't gotten a TP offshoot yet, which is kind of a bumber.

Then again from what I hear of PH/ST maybe I shouldn't want that. :P
TP wrapped everything up pretty well. WW ended with an ocean of unanswered questions and a cliffhanger ending.
 
RagnarokX said:
TP wrapped everything up pretty well. WW ended with an ocean of unanswered questions and a cliffhanger ending.

Well, except for the ominous Zant appearance at the end during Ganondorf's death scene. It was almost like Zant was the one pulling the strings all along...

(And technically you want a sequel to ST, not WW, considering they are all in the same line...)
 
RagnarokX said:
TP wrapped everything up pretty well. WW ended with an ocean of unanswered questions and a cliffhanger ending.
TP did end with
leaving his village to go explore (And I think some have speculated, to find a way back to Midna)
, so there is room for expansion.
 
Tuck said:
TP did end with
leaving his village to go explore (And I think some have speculated, to find a way back to Midna)
, so there is room for expansion.
Nah, he left cuz he found this cool ass crossbow and had to go train with it.
 
Tuck said:
TP did end with
leaving his village to go explore (And I think some have speculated, to find a way back to Midna)
, so there is room for expansion.
Hero of Twilight ending up in future Termina confirmed.
 
RagnarokX said:
TP wrapped everything up pretty well. WW ended with an ocean of unanswered questions and a cliffhanger ending.

Off topic again, but let's see the games that have had their own sequels/offshoots:

The Legend of Zelda -> Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link
A Link to the Past -> Link's Awakening (sorta)
Ocarina of Time -> Majora's Mask
Oracle of Ages <-> Oracle of Seasons
Wind Waker -> Phantom Hourglass -> Spirit Tracks
Four Swords -> Four Swords Adventures

Actually it seems like Twilight Princess is the only one of the bunch not to have any kind of follow-up. But as you said, it's wrapped up pretty well. Maybe all the fanboy whining convinced them not to pursue it. :P

Edit- Oh and Minish Cap but that's a portable thing.
 
Andrex said:
Off topic again, but let's see the games that have had their own sequels/offshoots:

The Legend of Zelda -> Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link
A Link to the Past -> Link's Awakening (sorta)
Ocarina of Time -> Majora's Mask
Oracle of Ages <-> Oracle of Seasons
Wind Waker -> Phantom Hourglass -> Spirit Tracks
Four Swords -> Four Swords Adventures

Actually it seems like Twilight Princess is the only one of the bunch not to have any kind of follow-up. But as you said, it's wrapped up pretty well. Maybe all the fanboy whining convinced them not to pursue it. :P

if i have my wish, zelda wii u will be a direct sequel.
 
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