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[metalslimer]

http://www.alsa.org/news/media/press-releases/ice-bucket-challenge-082614.html

I really don't understand the cynicism behind this. People are complaining that it's not doing anything to actually spread awareness of what ALS is, but does it really matter?

 

[strafer]

I'm going to start a fire challenge

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

http://www.alsa.org/news/media/press-releases/ice-bucket-challenge-082614.html

I really don't understand the cynicism behind this. People are complaining that it's not doing anything to actually spread awareness of what ALS is, but does it really matter?

The most common argument is that research up until this point has yielded no results.

Personally, I have no issue with the campaign at all.

 

[Futureman]

Being outraged at people bring outraged at the ice bucket challenge is the new being outraged at the ice bucket challenge.

 

[Protein]

Call me crazy, but we should do this for other diseases/causes if it is this effective.

 

[Skele7on]

It's more about the awareness then money, but it's nice it's getting both.

I got nominated yesterday evening, so I will be doing it tonight.

I am not excited as it is actually freezing today.

 

[theytookourjobz]

Hopefully all that money results in some actual results and relief for those afflicted.

 

[Tesseract]

good fun cause, i had never heard of als before this so it must be working.

 

[EdibleKnife]

I'm going to start a fire challenge

Molten Iron Challenge

 

[metalslimer]

Hopefully all that money results in some actual results and relief for those afflicted.

Well according to them they provide assistance for those suffering with the disease currently, so there will be some tangible benefit from this.

 

[Wind's Howling]

Social media has its good things despite the overall criticism for it.

 

[jred2k]

I'm going to start a fire challenge

It exists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA9T9S7Qk1E

 

[Stitch]

Meanwhile at cancer research

 

[Mengetsu]

Wow they must be in tears over there compared to last years raise which was like a million and a half dollars? This is just incredible.

 

[marrec]

Call me crazy, but we should do this for other diseases/causes if it is this effective.

The problem is that you need to catch lightning in a bottle. There's no reason that this specific way to raise awareness caught on and spread beyond the fact that the internet and it's memetics are fickle and impossible to predict.

 

[flyinpiranha]

I'm so sick of this whole "raising money for charity" thing.

Being outraged at people bring outraged at the ice bucket challenge is the new being outraged at the ice bucket challenge.

You're old hat, being 'outraged' = typing a forum post. Everybody is outraged. Passive aggressive by not posting is the new thing. I'm not jumping on that bandwagon.

 

[DietRob]

Call me crazy, but we should do this for other diseases/causes if it is this effective.

It will happen. Probably not an 'ice bucket challenge' exactly but other organizations will try to catch this lightning in a bottle again.

 

[N.Domixis]

Molten Iron Challenge

Scalding Bucket Challenge. Do it.

 

[jmdajr]

What are we doing about ball cancer???

 

[captive]

this is really fantastic. Amazing what something like this going this viral can do.

Meanwhile at cancer research

i know you're probably trying to be funny but cancer has got to be one of if not the most well funded diseases around.

 

[Lakitu]

Great news, hope we can reach the same momentum for other charities especially Cancer Research. But I have no idea how much Cancer Research gets per year. Probably much more.

 

[Protein]

I'm already starting to see crap like this pop up

 

[Sub_Level]

Call me crazy, but we should do this for other diseases/causes if it is this effective.

Like Bill Burr said, there are board room meetings happening now with different advocacy groups talking about this. Don't you worry.

I think it's great!

 

[JCX]

I'm going to start a fire challenge

Self-immolating Tibetan Monks beat you to it.

 

[Friggz]

The most common argument is that research up until this point has yielded no results.

Personally, I have no issue with the campaign at all.

from my understanding there really isnt a whole lot they can do for ALS. From whatever science journals ive read, its virtually an untreatable disease, and really only something that can be slowed down.

 

[metalslimer]

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/NCI/research-funding

Cancer research gets 5 billion dollars of government funding a year. Of course, cancer consists of many different types and affects a lot more people.

from my understanding there really isnt a whole lot they can do for ALS. From whatever science journals ive read, its virtually an untreatable disease, and really only something that can be slowed down.

It's untreatable because first of all, they don't even know what really causes the degeneration.

 

[Stet]

I'm already starting to see crap like this pop up

This is so stupid and so easily refuted. 28% goes to research. 32% goes to public and professional education, which would include awareness campaigns and educating doctors on new treatments becoming available. 19% goes to patient and community services, which means in the case of patients with no family, creating projects to fund ways of getting them to their physician, or funding in-home care when they can't afford it or have no insurance. 14% goes to fundraising and 7% goes to administration, which is incredibly low.

I just don't understand why people go so far as to hamper a good cause with absolutely no research.

from my understanding there really isnt a whole lot they can do for ALS. From whatever science journals ive read, its virtually an untreatable disease, and really only something that can be slowed down.

Slowing it down is by definition treating it. It's uncurable as of yet, but even finding new treatments is a huge benefit.

 

[Chariot]

I'm already starting to see crap like this pop up

NO ONE knows

 

[metalslimer]

They are probably only pushing one drug because their are extremely few FDA approved drugs for it to begin with.

Also this shit:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ral-embryonic-stem-cell-research-9689502.html

Is infuriating.

 

[gdt]

It exists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA9T9S7Qk1E

What the holy fuck

 

[Regiruler]

Molten Iron Challenge

2metal4me

 

[Pastry]

They are probably only pushing one drug because their are extremely few FDA approved drugs for it to begin with.

I think there is only one FDA approved drug in the first place?

 

[metalslimer]

I think there is only one FDA approved drug in the first place?

I'm pretty sure you are right, but I didn't know if anything extremely recent had been approved.

 

[bcl0328]

Call me crazy, but we should do this for other diseases/causes if it is this effective.

the cystic fibrosis group on facebook is trying to do a challenge. so far there are about 10 different ones and no one can decide on one.

 

[The Lamp]

Meanwhile at cancer research

If you really wanna make a difference, you should support the NIH. These donations are great but they're drops in the bucket.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5688100

 

[Kuroyume]

But butttt what about the kids in Africa going thirsty because they have no water while people over here are dumping water on their heads?

 

[strafer]

bahaha

 

[Pastry]

Has the challenge taken off internationally? I have friends doing it all around the world but we all went to college in the states so they're being challenged by Americans.

 

[Mariolee]

This is so stupid and so easily refuted. 28% goes to research. 32% goes to public and professional education, which would include awareness campaigns and educating doctors on new treatments becoming available. 19% goes to patient and community services, which means in the case of patients with no family, creating projects to fund ways of getting them to their physician, or funding in-home care when they can't afford it or have no insurance. 14% goes to fundraising and 7% goes to administration, which is incredibly low.

I just don't understand why people go so far as to hamper a good cause with absolutely no research.

Don't you understand though? NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THE OTHER 72%.

Funny that we've come to grow as a society that will actually trust what we read on te internet as long as it passes a certain threshold of cynicism.

 

[Matt_]

It's the only thin thats on my facebook feed right now
I've been nominated but I'll probably just donate

 

[Haribi]

Has the challenge taken off internationally? I have friends doing it all around the world but we all went to college in the states so they're being challenged by Americans.

It's all over my turkish Facebook feed right now.

 

[pr0cs]

I'm just surprised that so many people I know that are doing it don't have a clue about ALS at all and seem to be doing it for fun. Its good that it is raising money but it's disappointing that so many people never bothered to read up and become knowledgeable on why the challenge exists in the first place.

 

[Aquamarine]

I'm glad ALS is getting its time in the limelight.

I wonder how much farther this fad will last. Hopefully it continues for a good while longer...any strategy that gets people to open their wallets to donate is a winner in my book.

 

[Blader]

http://www.alsa.org/news/media/press-releases/ice-bucket-challenge-082614.html

I really don't understand the cynicism behind this. People are complaining that it's not doing anything to actually spread awareness of what ALS is, but does it really matter?

Internet anti-socials and/or people wanting to rationalize to themselves why they shouldn't have to donate to charity.

 

[AlucardGV]

Molten Iron Challenge

nah, like in the good old middle-age days, hot oil.

 

[MUnited83]

Has the challenge taken off internationally? I have friends doing it all around the world but we all went to college in the states so they're being challenged by Americans.

Here in Portugal only a couple few are actually donating to charity. Most of people here are doing a twisted version of it. It's Ice Bucket challenge. You nominate people to take the challenge. If they don't do it, they have to pay you a dinner.

Spoiler

I want to punch people in the face for turning something that was supposed to be about charity to this shit.

 

[Twenty7KVN]

What the holy fuck

You just can't stop stupid people from doing stupid shit sometimes.

 

[Impeccable]

Internet anti-socials and/or people wanting to rationalize to themselves why they shouldn't have to donate to charity.

I personally find it a narcissistic fad that is irrating but cannot deny the positive.

 

[studyguy]

bahaha

I'm sure there's a fetish to be filled here.

 

[jmdajr]

The hate almost comes in the form of peer pressure. I mean sure it's a fun silly thing to do, but it's not something you have to do. But if you don't do it you end up looking lame.

"No ice bucket challenge...are you... Chicken?

The important thing really is the donation. If you donate and don't want to drop ice on your head that should be ok.. But trust me, for most people it's not ok. It's more about the dare than the money.