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Don't really care about your other points, because it's all insignificant life crap. Though, doctors being so unprofessional and lackluster about their patients is worrying. Was this a public hospital?
 
Marion Cobretti said:
Is here there to openly talk shit about patients and put his fingers in his mouth?
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Definitely unprofessional behavior, although I agree with the other person that it's not uncommon for an ER doctor to not recognize something that isn't an emergency, like a foot injury, when they're dealing with other emergencies. It's very normal for a specialist to find an issue later because their specific occupation is finding those issues. Emergency room doctors typically focus on the most critical emergencies in a situation, like the broken pelvis and whatever else.

On an aside, do you think you've ever talked about somebody behind their back when you shouldn't have, particularly if you were having a bad day?
 
Calamari41 said:
Not at all, you're just not a pushover. It's a good thing. Don't change in any way, especially with the doctor situation and ones like it.
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This.

As for the dog thing, if it's persistent and obviously if the neighbor is home during the nights and doesn't stop it from barking, I see no problem with calling animal control before talking to them. Oftentimes people are complete assholes and will just get angry you talked to them in the first place. And then they'd probably know who called animal control later on top of it. Why risk a confrontation like that?
 
You seem perfectly justified to me, OP. The problem here are the people discarding any sense of common courtesy, not you calling them on it.
 
Mossybrew said:
Talking to someone first is up for debate, just pointing out that dealing with nuisance animals is definitely part of what Animal Control does, not just animal welfare.

A lot of people seem to agree that the neighbors should have been talked to first. "Neighbor" can be anything from someone you invite over for cookouts to someone you chat with on the street occasionally to perfect strangers you know next to nothing about. I don't know the exact situation, but someone who repeatedly lets their dog bark at all hours by definition is not someone really concerned with other people's well being, or is too ignorant to even realize it's a problem. Confronting a stranger about it could lead to many outcomes, from a friendly apology to someone who now feels slighted and holds a grudge and may or may not retaliate in some fashion.

Unless I was on friendly terms with the neighbor, I'd definitely just call animal control and let them sort it out professionally - it is their job after all. It's not like their dog is going to be immediately confiscated.
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It's not up for debate if you're not passive aggressive or have horrible, horrible social skills.
 
Calamari41 said:
Not at all, you're just not a pushover. It's a good thing. Don't change in any way, especially with the doctor situation and ones like it.
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This, and I personally wish I was more assertive. The first and third situations are entirely reasonable; you called a doctor out on his lack of professionalism with the diagnoses, which could have been more serious in a different situation, and considering the limited and problematic parking in your area, I'm surprised permit parking hasn't already been enforced. Good on you for reporting the dealership since they were continuously interfering with residential parking despite the city's warning.

Any update on the dog?
 
gaiages said:
This.
Oftentimes people are complete assholes and will just get angry you talked to them in the first place. And then they'd probably know who called animal control later on top of it. Why risk a confrontation like that?
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Yep. Most likely outcome if OP talked to them first - they probably act conciliatory, maybe dog gets smacked a couple times (they already demonstrate no ability to properly train it), dog goes back to barking soon enough. OP frustrated and now calls Animal Control. Neighbors now know who called, OP now becomes "that bitch that called the dog cops on us"

LegendofDragoonLives said:
It's not up for debate if you're not passive aggressive or have horrible, horrible social skills.
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I think I have perfectly adequate social skills, I've moved around a lot and I know neighbors can be all kinds of people and you start shit with them at your peril (one person's reasonable request is another's starting shit). I wouldn't call it passive aggressive at all but simply the most logical course of action. OP has to live next to these people, not you.
 
Exactly. I'm not trying to have beef with neighbors who are really young and rowdy. I never give them shit when they party all night and shit, which is often, I was their age once. I know how that goes. But weeks upon weeks of barking dig is too much for me to accept.
 
Mossybrew said:
Yep. Most likely outcome if OP talked to them first - they probably act conciliatory, maybe dog gets smacked a couple times (they already demonstrate no ability to properly train it), dog goes back to barking soon enough. OP frustrated and now calls Animal Control. Neighbors now know who called, OP now becomes "that bitch that called the dog cops on us"
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I can only assume the people that are "shocked" at the idea of avoiding confrontation haven't lived in places where your neighbors can be pretty sketchy. Sometimes confronting people about the way they inconvenience those around them will only escalate the situation further. My guess would be that the lady with the stupid barking lap dog isn't going to shoot but she may still try more devious retaliation.

Mossybrew said:
I think I have perfectly adequate social skills, I've moved around a lot and I know neighbors can be all kinds of people. I wouldn't call it passive aggressive at all but simply the most logical course of action.
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Thank you for saying what I was trying to much more eloquently. :)
 
LegendofDragoonLives said:
The second point sounds like something someone from North America does. Possibly address it with a human being first? Nah, call somewhere and complain about it.
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Who the fuck cares. He handled it like an adult.

LegendofDragoonLives said:
It's not up for debate if you're not passive aggressive or have horrible, horrible social skills.
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The idea that you're treating him like some sort of social leper over this concerns me far more than whatever he did in point 2.
 
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You nagger!
 
what the fuck is all these details motherfucker omg yes your naggy wow...gotta be something naggy aint bad least you pay attention.


Cobra 4 life tho
 
Honestly, what's the point in talking to the neighbor? They already know the dog barks all night, they just don't care.

So fuck them. And fuck this idea that not talking to them is passive aggressive.
 
nilbog21 said:
Dude, an ER doc is not there to diagnose a broken heel, especially when your dad said he is not having pain in his heel.
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Huh? That doctor is precisely there for diagnosing everything a patient has, even things that the patients are not aware of.

Or well, I suppose we'd never diagnose hypertension, because patients never feel anything until it has already taken its toll, right?
 
Some OTT some reasonable

You're not a cunt, but I imagine sometimes you may be better off being a bit more confrontational
 
The Albatross said:
Definitely unprofessional behavior, although I agree with the other person that it's not uncommon for an ER doctor to not recognize something that isn't an emergency, like a foot injury, when they're dealing with other emergencies. It's very normal for a specialist to find an issue later because their specific occupation is finding those issues. Emergency room doctors typically focus on the most critical emergencies in a situation, like the broken pelvis and whatever else.

On an aside, do you think you've ever talked about somebody behind their back when you shouldn't have, particularly if you were having a bad day?
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Why are you excusing the doctor's behaviour? This is the kind of negligence that doctors and people in healthcare are trying to fix. We have to be vigilant about it. If there weren't complaints from the general public like OP, shit wouldn't change and it could get worse. Doctors aren't only concerned on whether the patient is feeling any pain and then call it a day. They know whether an X-ray should be done. Better be safe than sorry. No, you don't get to talk shit about patients out loud. Or swear. Or use your finger as a tooth pick in front of others.

"...claiming that when he asked my dad about the injury, that my dad said he didnÂ’t feel any pain, so he figured it was okay. When I then asked how come he didnÂ’t do an X-rays on the foot, when he did the other X-rays, he answered 'Well, people often complain about radiation, so we try to keep the X-rays to a minimum. He then reiterated that when he asked my father about his foot, my father claimed he didnÂ’t feel any pain.' "

That excuse of not using X-rays because generalising that people can feel squeamish about radiation is garbage, and wouldn't fly in court, which is where these cases of negligence can end up.
 
The scenarios that you talk about do not show the behaviour in nagging, but you do like to voice your complaints, rather than hold it in. That is a good thing I guess, unless you are cherry picking your examples. If you find you complain to superiors for every little thing that bothers you, then you have a problem. For instance, if you don't get your way in a retail store and you complain the store manager over something that is out of their policy or control. Again, from these three examples, I do not see anything wrong.
 
Marion Cobretti said:
1. I live on a fairly narrow street that only allows parking on one side of the street. Therefore, parking is a bit limited. On top of this, my block is flanked by 2 body shops to the south, and 4 car dealerships to the north. All located on the corners.

The body shop, “limited” on space, often time will park cars that they’re working on, on the street for days at a time. The car dealerships, for whatever reason, doesn’t feel the need to supply their employees with parking, so more often than not, the employees are taking up a good chunk of the parking on my street. On street cleaning days, they’re like hawks waiting for the street cleaner to roll by so that can immediately grab the parking spots.

Another thing the car dealerships do, is park massive big rigs on my narrow street, to unload and load cars. Often blocking people in, as well as essentially turning my street into a one way street as cars have to wait for clearance to get passed the big rig. Some times to the point where it can kinda result in traffic, or cause people to miss the light.

I went ahead and did a little research, and found out that the city has already made it clear to the dealership that theyÂ’re not allowed to load and unload cars on a residential street. I went ahead took pictures every time they did this for a couple weeks, and have since reported them and had them cited. IÂ’ve also gone ahead and petitioned to have permit parking enforced on my street so that only residents and their guest can park on my street. The permit parking is still up in the air though. But basically, thereÂ’s almost never any parking on my street due to the employees of the dealership and Body shop parking their cars there.
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That's all very reasonable and awesome. Keep up the good work.

Marion Cobretti said:
2. My neighbor, fairly young, as a tiny little shit dog that barks all day and all night. To the point that I have to wonder if itÂ’s due to negligence, but I think it might have more to do with the dog thinking itÂ’s master of the home. In any case, itÂ’s always barking its brains out, and after having been woken up by it many times in the middle of the night, or the morning, I finally snapped and called animal control on my neighbor.
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Did you try talking to the neighbor first? If yes, thats fine. If not, yeah that sucks. That's totally old person crabby territory.

Marion Cobretti said:
3. A few days ago, my father had a bad accident which resulted in a broken wrist, heel, and a fractured pelvis. When we got to the ER, the sent him off to do X-rays. As I waited in his room, I couldnÂ’t help but notice that there was a doctor there he had a really bad attitude, who I heard openly talk shit about patients, used bad language, and worst of all, was shoving his fingers fairly deep into his mouth to use as a tooth pick. Granted, he did wash his hands, but I saw him do it repeatedly.

Eventually, my father was brought back to his room, and the doctorÂ’s diagnosis was that his wrist and pelvis where broken. He was very short with us, which I can understand, as ER doctors must be pressed for time and very stressed out, but the whole time I waited for my dad to return from X-rays, he was just sitting around not doing anything picking his teeth with his fingers.

Any ways, I pointed out to the doctor that my fathers ankle was super swollen, and asked what he made of it. He examined the foot, asked my father if he felt any pain, and my father so no. Mind you, my father is 62, and was on morphine and adrenaline when asked. ER doctor said it seemed fine based on my dads answer. The next day, my dad kept complaining about a pain in his foot. A full 24 hours later, after having been seen by 3 doctors, an orthopedic doctor saw my dad, and instantly noticed that his heel was broken. Sent him off to X-rays, got confirmation, and immediately put a cast on it. My dad sat in a hospital for a full day with a broken heel, and it took 3 doctors to notice.

At this point I was pretty frustrated, and tried to get in touch with the doctor to ask him how it was possible that he could miss such a thing. I couldn’t get in touch with the doctor, but the front desk asked why I wanted to speak to him, I explained why, and they told me the supervisor would get in touch with me when she was free. Shortly there after, the doctor calls me, now with a completely friendly demeanor, and essentially tried to put all the blame on my father, claiming that when he asked my dad about the injury, that my dad said he didn’t feel any pain, so he figured it was okay. When I then asked how come he didn’t do an X-rays on the foot, when he did the other X-rays, he answered “Well, people often complain about radiation, so we try to keep the X-rays to a minimum. He then reiterated that when he asked my father about his foot, my father claimed he didn’t feel any pain.

After that, I spoke with his supervisor, told her about my entire experience, and she wasnÂ’t having it. She seemed pretty bothered by the treatment my father got, as well as the unprofessional etiquette the doctor was displaying in the ER. Since then, I have been informed that he is being sent to a peer review.
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You are justified in your concern but I dont know why you bothered to call the bad attitude doctor just to bitch him out. Obviously that wasnt going to go anywhere if he's a jackass. Maybe next time go straight to their supervisor. An asshole will never care what you have to say but they care when you're telling their boss.
And keep in mind that while he did seem like an asshole, this was not a normal doctor who is there to do thorough examinations. It's the emergency room not the maybe-something room. If your dad is saying his foot feels fine then the doc is going to reasonably move on to emergencies.

In order of most reasonable to least I'd say 1, 3, 2. All are perfectly valid concerns and the only lost points are for how they are handled. Overall conclusion is that no, you are not a naggy bitch. Naggy bitches find stupid vapid shit to bitch about. Carry on with confidence.
 
Marion Cobretti said:
Am I A Naggy Person?

Last night while laying in bed, I did some self reflecting and questioned if IÂ’m becoming a naggy person. My mom is a bit on the naggy side, so this is kinda what made me question if IÂ’m becoming like her. I know GAF, whether right or wrong, is brutally honest, so IÂ’d appreciate your opinion.

So, a few examples of things that IÂ’ve done recently that got me pondering if IÂ’m some naggy person thatÂ’s a burn and causing inconvenience to peoples lives.

1. I live on a fairly narrow street that only allows parking on one side of the street. Therefore, parking is a bit limited. On top of this, my block is flanked by 2 body shops to the south, and 4 car dealerships to the north. All located on the corners.

The body shop, “limited” on space, often time will park cars that they’re working on, on the street for days at a time. The car dealerships, for whatever reason, doesn’t feel the need to supply their employees with parking, so more often than not, the employees are taking up a good chunk of the parking on my street. On street cleaning days, they’re like hawks waiting for the street cleaner to roll by so that can immediately grab the parking spots.

Another thing the car dealerships do, is park massive big rigs on my narrow street, to unload and load cars. Often blocking people in, as well as essentially turning my street into a one way street as cars have to wait for clearance to get passed the big rig. Some times to the point where it can kinda result in traffic, or cause people to miss the light.

I went ahead and did a little research, and found out that the city has already made it clear to the dealership that theyÂ’re not allowed to load and unload cars on a residential street. I went ahead took pictures every time they did this for a couple weeks, and have since reported them and had them cited. IÂ’ve also gone ahead and petitioned to have permit parking enforced on my street so that only residents and their guest can park on my street. The permit parking is still up in the air though. But basically, thereÂ’s almost never any parking on my street due to the employees of the dealership and Body shop parking their cars there.

2. My neighbor, fairly young, as a tiny little shit dog that barks all day and all night. To the point that I have to wonder if itÂ’s due to negligence, but I think it might have more to do with the dog thinking itÂ’s master of the home. In any case, itÂ’s always barking its brains out, and after having been woken up by it many times in the middle of the night, or the morning, I finally snapped and called animal control on my neighbor.

3. A few days ago, my father had a bad accident which resulted in a broken wrist, heel, and a fractured pelvis. When we got to the ER, the sent him off to do X-rays. As I waited in his room, I couldnÂ’t help but notice that there was a doctor there he had a really bad attitude, who I heard openly talk shit about patients, used bad language, and worst of all, was shoving his fingers fairly deep into his mouth to use as a tooth pick. Granted, he did wash his hands, but I saw him do it repeatedly.

Eventually, my father was brought back to his room, and the doctorÂ’s diagnosis was that his wrist and pelvis where broken. He was very short with us, which I can understand, as ER doctors must be pressed for time and very stressed out, but the whole time I waited for my dad to return from X-rays, he was just sitting around not doing anything picking his teeth with his fingers.

Any ways, I pointed out to the doctor that my fathers ankle was super swollen, and asked what he made of it. He examined the foot, asked my father if he felt any pain, and my father so no. Mind you, my father is 62, and was on morphine and adrenaline when asked. ER doctor said it seemed fine based on my dads answer. The next day, my dad kept complaining about a pain in his foot. A full 24 hours later, after having been seen by 3 doctors, an orthopedic doctor saw my dad, and instantly noticed that his heel was broken. Sent him off to X-rays, got confirmation, and immediately put a cast on it. My dad sat in a hospital for a full day with a broken heel, and it took 3 doctors to notice.

At this point I was pretty frustrated, and tried to get in touch with the doctor to ask him how it was possible that he could miss such a thing. I couldn’t get in touch with the doctor, but the front desk asked why I wanted to speak to him, I explained why, and they told me the supervisor would get in touch with me when she was free. Shortly there after, the doctor calls me, now with a completely friendly demeanor, and essentially tried to put all the blame on my father, claiming that when he asked my dad about the injury, that my dad said he didn’t feel any pain, so he figured it was okay. When I then asked how come he didn’t do an X-rays on the foot, when he did the other X-rays, he answered “Well, people often complain about radiation, so we try to keep the X-rays to a minimum. He then reiterated that when he asked my father about his foot, my father claimed he didn’t feel any pain.

After that, I spoke with his supervisor, told her about my entire experience, and she wasnÂ’t having it. She seemed pretty bothered by the treatment my father got, as well as the unprofessional etiquette the doctor was displaying in the ER. Since then, I have been informed that he is being sent to a peer review.


So any ways, all of this has basically happened in the last 2 weeks. Last night while in bed, I started wondering if maybe IÂ’m being too naggy, and perhaps IÂ’m not picking and choosing the right battles.

Am I becoming some grumpy whiney bitch? Or are my actions reasonable and justified? IÂ’m 31 years old.
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I'm 31 as well and no shit, i'd do the same thing... For the first maybe i'd even go complain directly to the guy on a daily basis, but apart from that completely fine.
 
Mossybrew said:
Talking to someone first is up for debate, just pointing out that dealing with nuisance animals is definitely part of what Animal Control does, not just animal welfare.

A lot of people seem to agree that the neighbors should have been talked to first. "Neighbor" can be anything from someone you invite over for cookouts to someone you chat with on the street occasionally to perfect strangers you know next to nothing about. I don't know the exact situation, but someone who repeatedly lets their dog bark at all hours by definition is not someone really concerned with other people's well being, or is too ignorant to even realize it's a problem. Confronting a stranger about it could lead to many outcomes, from a friendly apology to someone who now feels slighted and holds a grudge and may or may not retaliate in some fashion.

Unless I was on friendly terms with the neighbor, I'd definitely just call animal control and let them sort it out professionally - it is their job after all. It's not like their dog is going to be immediately confiscated.
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New parents are trying to let baby cry itself to sleep. Crying baby wakes you up. Call DSS.
 
SillyNonsense said:
You are justified in your concern but I dont know why you bothered to call the bad attitude doctor just to bitch him out. Obviously that wasnt going to go anywhere if he's a jackass. Maybe next time go straight to their supervisor. An asshole will never care what you have to say but they care when you're telling their boss.
And keep in mind that while he did seem like an asshole, this was not a normal doctor who is there to do thorough examinations. It's the emergency room not the maybe-something room. If your dad is saying his foot feels fine then the doc is going to reasonably move on to emergencies.
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Doctors in A&E departments are normal doctors. Just because you work in an A&E department, doesn't mean there's some alarm that if you don't diagnose the patient in 3-4 minutes flat, the next patient has to come. A&E isn't a pit stop. Doctors aren't carrying out physical examinations at record speeds. Emergency departments aren't Quick Fix.

If you've broken various parts of your body from an accident, then you're likely to get X-rays for various places on the body. If you can see a swollen foot, you don't just check if there's pain. That'll play a role in your X-ray check ups.
 
1 & 3 sound reasonable.

On #2 calling animal control without talking to the neighbor first can be seen as a shitty thing to do. Sounds like your neighbor didn't know what they were signing up for when getting the dog. Maybe it's too energetic and not being taken out enough.
 
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You didn't seem to be worried about being naggy when you dealt with those guys.


Seriously though, I have to echo many of the others. You probably should have spoken with the neighbor first regarding the dog. People can be annoyingly ignorant of others when it comes to letting their dog bark.

The other situations are understandable and within reason.
 
Seems fairly reasonable OP. 2nd one is the only kinda silly one; like others have said talk to the neighbor about getting a bark collar or muzzle.
 
When a doctor isn't taking a loved ones physical well being seriously, it's perfectly understandable to be pissed off about it.

If someone called animal control on me before speaking with me, I would assume they are a prick. Although barking all night is an issue, if they are barking all day, its most likely they are alone because the owner is at work, dogs shouldn't be barking like that when the owner is home so yeah if its barking all day and night I would be curious about neglect as well. Still should have talked to them first.

As for the body shop thing. If all it was causing me was missing a light from time to time, I don't think I would have cared so much, especially if its locally/privately owned shop. People need to run a business. I at least would have gone and talked to them about it first instead of doing all the taking pictures and filing complaints to have them cited first. Hopefully you don't ever need them to fix your car for you.

Edit: the dealerships on the other hand would annoy me.

What are the chances of moving to a new neighborhood?
 
Messofanego said:
Doctors in A&E departments are normal doctors. Just because you work in an A&E department, doesn't mean there's some alarm that if you don't diagnose the patient in 3-4 minutes flat, the next patient has to come. A&E isn't a pit stop. Doctors aren't carrying out physical examinations at record speeds. Emergency departments aren't Quick Fix.

If you've broken various parts of your body from an accident, then you're likely to get X-rays for various places on the body. If you can see a swollen foot, you don't just check if there's pain. That'll play a role in your X-ray check ups.
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Well thats how ER docs have always treated me and my family. Rush in rush out.
 
Mossybrew said:
Yep. Most likely outcome if OP talked to them first - they probably act conciliatory, maybe dog gets smacked a couple times (they already demonstrate no ability to properly train it), dog goes back to barking soon enough. OP frustrated and now calls Animal Control. Neighbors now know who called, OP now becomes "that bitch that called the dog cops on us"



I think I have perfectly adequate social skills, I've moved around a lot and I know neighbors can be all kinds of people and you start shit with them at your peril (one person's reasonable request is another's starting shit). I wouldn't call it passive aggressive at all but simply the most logical course of action. OP has to live next to these people, not you.
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Calling the authorities before directly dealing with the person is a clear-cut case of passive-aggressiveness. Whether it's also the most logical (I think you really mean "most beneficial to you with the least risk") is a separate matter.
 
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