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Am I missing something with Rise of the Tomb Raider?
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SlasherJPC
Banned
I'm a huge fan of Uncharted 4, but there is way more gameplay elements at hand in Rise. As for the story, it held my attention enough but the real reason I play games like this and Uncharted are for the acton, set peices, and the feeling of exploration and discovery. These games nail those moments. So I'm pretty pleased with them overall.
Steve McQueen
Member
Great game. Aint got a clue why people, who like UC, dislike this game.
unknownhero
Member
I hate RotT story, the flash back cutscenes at least and lara's
However, I am enjoying it's gameplay. The start could have been better but once they "release the training wheels" it's a much better experience. Honestly, it's way better than the first one in the gameplay department. Not flawless mind ya but I'm still enjoying it.
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However, I am enjoying it's gameplay. The start could have been better but once they "release the training wheels" it's a much better experience. Honestly, it's way better than the first one in the gameplay department. Not flawless mind ya but I'm still enjoying it.
They really need to bring back lara's mansion as the tutorial. I wanna lock the butler in the freezer. If not him then jonah
PositiveGamer
Member
Yes.. you are missing something ..
Good Taste ......
Good Taste ......
pretty done
Member
It's the same game LOL. Damn hipsters these days.
But the TR reboot games suffer from the inverse Uncharted; TR games have stronger core gameplay and combat mechanics but very weak stories that are shoved in the your face (at least, the original 2013 game). Uncharted has a good/great story but only having 'good' gameplay mechanics that carry the narrative a long.
Despite my sour view of the story of the original TR Reboot, I did enjoy it a lot and I'm happy you really loved the game
I think that's a good way of putting it and I'm in agreement.
If I was in charge of Tomb Raider Reboot 3. I'd find some better writers, decrease the number of shoot outs and make the game more puzzle based. Basically I'd take those optional tombs and integrate them into the main game.
As for Tomb Raider vs Uncharted... don't care. As a gamer, I'm lucky to be blessed with both.
Yeah, it's boring, generic, forgettable and, most importantly, it's not Tomb Raider. It's generic cinematic third-person shooter #276. I mean, from a technical perspective it's a very well-made game but the game design and writing, well, they mostly range from meh to terrible (though a few of the mechanics are well-designed in and of themselves, I suppose).
When talking about the reboot games, they're definitely not random. Before that the series had pretty little in common with Uncharted, yeah, but nowadays, I think the comparison is appropriate.
I really enjoy the game but the combat is a big step back from TR2013. Not that I care-- I think the combat needed to take a huge backseat.
The encounter design does not take advantage...or even seem to acknowledge...that very quickly into the game you get easily replenished AoE kill items that make every encounter a total joke. And yes, Lara is a headshot machine.
The encounter design does not take advantage...or even seem to acknowledge...that very quickly into the game you get easily replenished AoE kill items that make every encounter a total joke. And yes, Lara is a headshot machine.
Lockjaw333
Member
Personally I adored this game. Beat it straight through on Xbone, bought it on PC and played right through it again. I rarely replay games, so that's saying something.
I think RotTR is better than all of the Uncharted games. Just my opinion, jives more with my style.
I think RotTR is better than all of the Uncharted games. Just my opinion, jives more with my style.
Neuromancer
Member
Thanks for the impressions. Safe to say I should skip this one, I didn't care for the reboot and this sounds equally bad if not worse.
SplitYourInfinities
Member
Great game, better than the previous one in every aspect other than atmosphere.
The OP made no mention of Uncharted, are we not able to discuss games without making the same boring comparisons? As soon as Uncharted was mentioned it just turned into the same TR > UC / TR < UC most TR threads turn into.
Vlaphor
Member
She's less scared and more bored and apathetic. She either doesn't care about what she's doing, or she really doesn't want to be doing it.
Fredrik
Member
Same here, both are great games that nobody should ignore, we're talking about 9/10 or 10/10 on both depending on your preferences.
However, I got to admit that I certainly liked Uncharted 4 more, not when just talking about gameplay though which I think TR does better but from a complete package perspective and the overall entertainment, I simply couldn't put it (UC4) down until I had finished it. I loved the UC4 story, the ending, and the big action set pieces, the stealth gameplay was a great addition too, but I'd never bother doing a 100% playthrough on UC4 like I did with TR which says a lot. Superb entertainment but UC4 is too linear to replay imo and simply not fun enough to wander off and explore stuff. But still, UC4 is the definitive GOTY this year, with no competitor in sight. At least it was until I played Inside... which just blew me away!
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Love the game personally!
Whether it's a good idea to bring up these comparisons or not is a different matter, I suppose. I merely said that they aren't random.
Picked it up on sale last week and am having a hard time getting into it. The story is awful. The fact that the Remnant have no accent or British accents boggles my mind. I know its nit-picky but it really breaks the immersion for me.
I also find the that the graphics aren't even that great on PC. Playing basically maxed at 1920x1080 and Xbone screens look better.
I also find the that the graphics aren't even that great on PC. Playing basically maxed at 1920x1080 and Xbone screens look better.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
I'm in the same boat as OP.
I think CD really overdid it with the collectathon. I mean, I realize it's my own fault, but still. The big areas (Soviet base and Goethermal Valley) are the biggest pace breakers ever. IMO they should not have done that. TR2013 had only one bigger area (the beach) and even that one was way, way smaller than anything in RoTR.
I finished TR2013 multiple times but still haven't RoTR. Can't believe how much they fucked it up. May give the whole thing another shot and ignore they whole collectable shit (which will be difficult because I'm kinda OCD when it comes to that).
I think CD really overdid it with the collectathon. I mean, I realize it's my own fault, but still. The big areas (Soviet base and Goethermal Valley) are the biggest pace breakers ever. IMO they should not have done that. TR2013 had only one bigger area (the beach) and even that one was way, way smaller than anything in RoTR.
I finished TR2013 multiple times but still haven't RoTR. Can't believe how much they fucked it up. May give the whole thing another shot and ignore they whole collectable shit (which will be difficult because I'm kinda OCD when it comes to that).
Seeing Sound
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I agree with the OP. So much stuff to collect and if you don't collect them all you feel like your going to handicap yourself later on in the game due to lack of upgrades.
I can only play so much at a time before switching to another game.
I can only play so much at a time before switching to another game.
Black Mantis
Member
One of the standout games so far this gen for me. Controls well, looks great and kept me interested throughout.
RespectThySole
Member
I don't think Uncharted 4 is very good, but I'd have to give it the edge here. RoTR was so bland that I couldn't even finish it. The input lag was annoying too.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
In RotTR she's very emotionless about everything around her. Early on you'll see her get paranoid and angry but later on she just has a blank expression throughout the whole game.
A group of humans who don't use their nose. Sometimes a medical issue, most of the time not. Mouth constantly agape, usually accompanied with a blank stare and horrible breath.
See Draymond Green for example. (Yes he plays basketball, which would force heavy air intake, but he is a mouth breather at all times)
I think platforming is one of the things people tend to overlook when it comes to TR games nowadays. You hear everyone talking about puzzles and yes, the puzzles are important and there should be more and more challengine puzzles, but for me, the bigger problem is that none of Crystal's games have had good old Tomb Raider-style platforming. It's all been over-automated, unchallenging, boring ledge-hopping orgies that feel like a chore to play. There were points in the reboot and in ROTTR where I had the feeling (if even just for a few seconds) that they were trying to make tiny baby steps back towards classic TR platforming (which is more than I can say for Legend, Anniversary or Underworld) but those points were few and far between and there just really needs to be a bigger focus on proper, challenging platforming.
They're more involved in Rise than in 2013, it's just that when the benchmark to surpass was one room puzzles that had Lara give the solution half the time that's saying very little.
The AOE kill items were probably balanced for the Xbox One version and its horrendous input lag. On the PC though, where there was no input lag, it definitely made the game too easy.
I also like it more than TR2013 but that's not saying much. It's quite a literal expansion of that game, with more things to collect, side quests to complete, weapons to upgrade. I dig that it fleshed out its Metroidvania influence a little more, and the tombs designs were an improvement over its predecessor.
First one was better. ROTR is lovely looking but there is so many boring things to do and the fights are so easy and dull, drags the whole game down. They padded it out and added nothing exciting. It's basically stretched out and less focused, the Tombs are a prime example, same old stuff but it takes you 5 mins more to get there in the same linear path, a nice looking one but what does that add?
wesleyshark
Banned
I highly enjoyed ROTR. Much more than the first one, and I really liked that one too. I think this franchise is at its best right now.
Caayn
Member
I enjoyed ROTTR more than the original.
I doubt that they wanted to invest resources into a mode that was dropped really quick by the community for their previous entry in this franchise.
Agree, this makes the game a lot more fun.
I was really excited for it, loved the first. Was going to wait for it on PS4 but when i saw it on the Summer Sale I decided to dive in. Maybe the surge is from others doing the same?
Tombs in the first game were extremely easy. ROTR's tombs at least have somewhat elaborate, cohesive designs within each one that take are more involved and take some time to complete.
Blackage
Member
The first Tomb Raider was more like Uncharted, more combat, more big set pieces, more moving the story from location to location on the island.
Rise of the Tomb Raider kinda drags on in some areas, the set pieces aren't nearly as memorable and the entire game just feels significantly more boring.
I personally enjoyed the first game from start to finish and had to force myself to play through and beat Rise of the Tomb Raider. I just found it really monotonous experience.
Rise of the Tomb Raider kinda drags on in some areas, the set pieces aren't nearly as memorable and the entire game just feels significantly more boring.
I personally enjoyed the first game from start to finish and had to force myself to play through and beat Rise of the Tomb Raider. I just found it really monotonous experience.
Inf3cted_b3ast
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Liked Tomb raider 2013 and will get Rise when it's on sale for ps4 but it's really funny reading some comments on this thread. It's like some ppl are bringing up UC4 and saying Tomb Raider is better to make themselves feel better when OP didn't mention anything about UC4 lol.