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Amazon to release Wifi only version of Kindle eReader for $139
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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It's easily found on Amazon's Kindle page: http://www.amazon.com/kindleWeenerz said:
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broadwayrock said:A pretty thorough review of the Kindle 3 by MobileTechReview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gotyZNvtc44
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/gadgets/Amazon-Kindle-3.htm
Ipad screen under a macro lens:
Kindle 3 screen under a macro lens:
I'm sorry, but that is somewhat of a disingenuous comparison.
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How about this, then?Meus Renaissance said:
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watched the review page turns much faster, wait for kindel 4G or buy now haaha
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:How about this, then?
I saw similar comparisons (of his pic) before I got my iPad and it somewhat concerned me, but I've never had any complaint about the clarity of the letters now that I own one. I'm not suggesting the iPad is a better eReader than the Kindle or anything with an E-Ink screen but I find these particular comparisons, like the above I responded to, pointless and misleading as you can 1) enlarge the font size on Apple's device without losing sharpness and 2) who reads a screen using a macro lens?
I think its pretty obvious from this thread and the ipad thread that people have different levels of tolerance for text aliasing when reading.
I find the iPad screen to display text that is unacceptably blocky and jagged. I just cant read books on it. Pictures look great and comics are great but plain text really stands out and I can always see the jagged edges on text and it bugs me for a large selection of fonts. It varies by font but the ones used by iBooks tend to bug me the most. (web pages in verdana dont seem to bug me as much)
Others will be less bothered by this and so can read on the ipads current screen without caring.
I find the iPad screen to display text that is unacceptably blocky and jagged. I just cant read books on it. Pictures look great and comics are great but plain text really stands out and I can always see the jagged edges on text and it bugs me for a large selection of fonts. It varies by font but the ones used by iBooks tend to bug me the most. (web pages in verdana dont seem to bug me as much)
Others will be less bothered by this and so can read on the ipads current screen without caring.
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LCfiner said:
That's interesting. I've read several books on the thing and never once noticed any jaggies or blocky text. I'm looking at it now, using the iBooks and Kindle app, changing fonts and font sizes and I can't seem to spot the issue. Did you try reading text on another iPad? I've taken some screen shots (not sure if it's even relevant if you're not looking directly at the screen). Let me know if you notice anything
Font size 1
Font size 2
Meus Renaissance said:
On my computer monitor from 3 feet away, those screens look fine.
on my own ipad, from around 1.5 to 2 feet away, text in iBooks looks a little shitty to me. its not something that I notice right away but the longer I read text on the screen, the more I focus on the jaggies around letterforms.
The funny thing for me, personally, is that for anything that it NOT text, I have no real ability to discern jaggies.
640p Halo or 600p MW on my 50 plasma? looks good to me! I dont really give a shit.
but text on screens? I see all the little ridges around curves in letters. I guess cuz its not in motion.
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LCfiner said:
What font do you use, and what size? If you notice this on any of the free books on the iBook store, let me know and just refer to it. I'm intrigued. Or take a screenshot or something. You may have a dodgy iPad. Some have a lower tolerance for reading the screen for long periods, but they usually say their eyes "hurt" or tired. It's interesting that you notice these jaggies the longer your eyes focus on the screen.
Is there really any need for the continued iPad comparisons? If you want to do all the shit the iPad does and read occasionally, you're going to want an iPad. If you just want to read comfortably without eye strain at a significantly lower price, you're going to want a dedicated e-reader.
Flizzzipper
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Still don't have mine, this sucks. Damn USPS I probably won't get it until Tuesday.
I might actually get the cover with the light after hearing it looks better than in the amazon promo shots.
I might actually get the cover with the light after hearing it looks better than in the amazon promo shots.
Meus Renaissance said:
I switched to the georgia font as soon as apple added it in ibooks. it looks better than the other serif fonts they use.
I guess its medium sized font? I switched back and forth a lot when I was testing it out.
anyway, its definitely not a dodgy ipad. Im just more sensitive to aliased text than some other folks might be. taking a screenshot wouldnt mean anything since youd be viewing it on a screen with a different DPI and at a different viewing distance than we use our ipads.
its not like its unusable. I use the ipad for the web all the time. But it doesnt do it for me for books.
The fact that I have a kindle and can compare side by side does the iPad no favours so Im more critical than I would be otherwise.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Nvm, read backwards.
You need a keyboard, physical or other, to search for and buy books on the device. The keyboard on the new Kindle 3 in graphite disappears when you are reading and is much nicer IMO then the one on the Kindle 2 (The Kindle 2 design was one of my biggest hangups with it but I bought a Kindle 3 and I love it)Stabbie said:
The Take Out Bandit
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Could someone with the new Kindle show me a photo of the unit with one of the PDF Loomis art books on it please? This is one of the big draws to the Kindle for me, out of print stuff; or generally stuff idiot descendants don't want to put back into print for an easy payday. :|
Guardian Bob
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I know its necessary, but I hate the look of the keyboard on the bottom. I hope one day they can make it a touch screen.
adamsappel
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What's the quality of the MP3 player in the Kindle?
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Guardian Bob said:
I had a Sony Reader with a touch screen, and the touch added a glare to the screen that impacted readability quite a bit. Restricted viewing angles as well. Unless they find a way around that, I don't think they'd compromise like that...
perryfarrell
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If i order one now, when can I expect to get it? Is there still > 1 month delay?
Is there any confirmation of that? Or any devices which use this tech? The PRS-600 sucked because of the touchscreen.Teddman said:
Edit: nm, I assume here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/sonys-new-e-readers-pictured-last-25-percent-longer-on-a-charg/
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LCfiner said:
yep, i'm with you here. i love my ipad but the resolution sucks for reading, even before you take the backlight/glare into account. i have a sony reader that the internet agrees doesn't even look as good as the original kindle, and i don't see me using it any less going forward.
i'd honestly rather read a book on the iphone 4 than ipad.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I also agree that iPad fonts are just fucking blurry and boxy. The "g" in Georgia in the Kindle app is terrifying to look at.
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Uh, if you want one, what other option do you have? Just order it, and if it doesn't come in whatever timeframe you're expecting for whatever reasons you have for having a deadline anyway, just cancel it.gcubed said:
Flizzzipper
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Got mine today. Having the power switch in a new spot is the first annoyance 
The improved contrast is very noticeable to me from the Kindle 2. The black bezel may also attribute to the effect but either way it looks gorgeous. The new forward/back buttons seem like they are a downgrade but time will tell. Maybe I'm just used to the ones from the Kindle 2.
The removal of the status bar at the top when reading a book was also a nice little touch aesthetically. Although I think it would be better if it was an option you could turn on/off. The same with the placement of the dictionary when hovering before a word. It now shows up at the top but I'm used to it at the bottom.
Overall awesome and worth the upgrade to me for the lower price, better look and feel, and most importantly, the improved contrast.
The improved contrast is very noticeable to me from the Kindle 2. The black bezel may also attribute to the effect but either way it looks gorgeous. The new forward/back buttons seem like they are a downgrade but time will tell. Maybe I'm just used to the ones from the Kindle 2.
The removal of the status bar at the top when reading a book was also a nice little touch aesthetically. Although I think it would be better if it was an option you could turn on/off. The same with the placement of the dictionary when hovering before a word. It now shows up at the top but I'm used to it at the bottom.
Overall awesome and worth the upgrade to me for the lower price, better look and feel, and most importantly, the improved contrast.
Coldsnap said:
Nice to hear they got a new one to you fast, I'm guessing no issues with the new Kindle?
Flizzzipper said:
You can bring the status bar up by hitting menu if you need to see it, not sure about a toggle though. The dictionary placement depends on where the word is on the page, I like it because if the word is in the bottom half I just hit up on the 4-way and know the dictionary will pop up at the top; if the word is in the top half I hit down on the 4-way and know its going to display at the bottom. I didn't have a Kindle 2 but used a friends and I'm in love with the Kindle 3, I've been using it every day since the 27th and I am enjoying it more and more.
DiscoJer
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Mine should be arriving tomorrow.
I really don't know if I should buy one of those lighted covers or not. They've almost half the cost of the thing (well, 40%?) but on the other hand, it seems like you could never take it anyplace without a decent cover*, and looking at them, some are even more expensive. Even the cheap ones seem to be $20-30...
* Having managed to break two PSPs, this scares me
I really don't know if I should buy one of those lighted covers or not. They've almost half the cost of the thing (well, 40%?) but on the other hand, it seems like you could never take it anyplace without a decent cover*, and looking at them, some are even more expensive. Even the cheap ones seem to be $20-30...
* Having managed to break two PSPs, this scares me
also the cover with the light is great!!Beer Monkey
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Where the fuck is the secret key combination to display text in "ragged right". There has got to be a way to turn off this damned right justification.
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Dude just get some cheap ass general computing/netbook sleeve for $5 from Amazon. I have one just for taking something with me on vacations. You don't need specially fitted leather covers just to keep a screen from getting dinged up in a bag.DiscoJer said:
Depends on the book. They're all formatted differently. Check out a sample of each book first.Beer Monkey said:
got mine today too
as a ipad owner (lover) i have to say OMG the screen is a beautifull
wow. And its so light o_0 I love the kindle, its amaizing. Only usabilty isnt as user friendly as apples stuff but thats about it. Great device <3
iam going to post some pictures soon
i also had it crash on me already 
Hope this wont happen to often
Hope this wont happen to ofteniam going to post some pictures soon
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
That really fucking blows. User control of ragged versus justified existed in the Kindle 1 and apparently they intentionally took it out of the K2 and K3. That's just crazy, ragged right = faster reading and less fatigue.
Otherwise, I'm loving this thing. I wish the DX were cheaper because I've got a big hard-on for one.
Nice pictures, I've been meaning to take some but every time I think about it is when I'm at work. I got the Amazon leather case with light and I have got to say although it is a bit over priced, the case is VERY nice. It looks great, the fit and finish are great with the Kindle inside the case, the light is PERFECT for night or low light reading and I'll always have it with me without having to clip something on or worry about batteries. Looks better in person then in the pictures too.
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God damn that looks sexy.
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I agree, I sample everything to avoid the justified books.Beer Monkey said:
Calibre has an option to control the alignment, if you want to break some DRM and convert the file again.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Look at the photos of actual parts of books above. One has a fully justified alignment where the text ends smoothly at the very right margin, the other just wraps to the next line when necessary, producing a ragged right edge. It's best to have the ragged right because a fully justified alignment produces differently sized spaces between the words, which gets annoying as hell when reading a long book.Van Owen said:
Justified alignment makes sense in a normal paper book where they manually add the hyphens and make sure the spacing is even. Automatically aligned in a machine looks bad. Look at the size of the spaces in the "woman, I am attending to my musket" line near the bottom.
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