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AMD Q4 2015 Earnings Call Suggests Multiple New Consoles Launching This Year.
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DownGrader
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The Year of Dreams 2: Now It's About Hardware
mocolostrocolos
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NX will be two differente consoles, right? so...
wapplew
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It's fun for the show, not that fun for my wallet.
neurosisxeno
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Because, to be quite honest, they suck. Outside of a dedicated-use product what good to normal consumers is a $400 APU (even that's conservative) with a mid-level GPU and 8 really terrible CPU cores? Jaguar is really, really weak. It was designed to compete with Intel Atom, which is used in Netbooks, and neither are really powerful enough to accomplish much in the realm of general computing.
The CPU's they use for Intel NUC's absolutely demolish the CPU in the PS4\XB1. They are weaker in terms of GPU might, but the CPU's are probably 3-4x as powerful--assuming it's the newer NUC's that come with Skylake CPU's. Iris Pro is also quite expensive, and Intel probably sells them at minimal profit compared to other SKUs. Also, that L4 Cache is just eDRAM like what the XB1 has on-die.
Unknown Soldier
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I don't think people understand just how slow and awful the Jaguar cores in the PS4 and Bone really are. They are not suitable for these SFF PCs.
Apple only sells high-end computers because that's where the margin is, and they have no use for slow-ass AMD APUs.
No.
There's a chance that Zen and Polaris will save the company, and if you believe they will then you can certainly buy some AMD based on that, but you should not buy AMD because of this. They make virtually nothing from the console contracts, for AMD's successful competitors those contracts amount to rounding errors in their financials.
If you're interested in making money, Nvidia is up about 90% in the last year and there's no reason to assume it won't keep going up because of what they've been up to lately. I'm not talking about Pascal either.
With the software to match nowhere near in sight.
These new hardware launches are taking the focus off actually getting good games to play in the near future.
Then again, I'm hoping for the best of both worlds, especially software, at E3.
Probably relating to Sulon Q type devices.
neurosisxeno
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A lot of people don't understand the complexities surrounding pc hardware. The Jaguar Cores are probably--best case scenario--on par for early Core 2 cores--Conroe like the ever popular E6400. They are helped by the fact that there's 8 of them, but there's only so much you can plow through 8 very weak, very slow (they are only clocked at like 1.4-1.6GHz) CPU cores without hitting a bottleneck. I remember Crytek was shit on by people after the PS4\XB1 launched for saying the CPU's were pretty garbage, turns out they were pretty spot on.
Semi custom can mean anything. "Slightly different memory controller" = semi custom.
How much do they make out of interest?
THE:MILKMAN
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Didn't even know about that. That thing looks cumbersome.
And 360 games with no slow down. That'd be shit hot.
SinCityAssassin
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Ignoring those incredibly optimistic prices, they'd probably be running at half rate on an Xbox One with that kind of difference in power.
The better models they release are just gonna come in handy to me when I get one at the end of it's lifespan to play the 5 or so exclusives I want to play.
But GP100 is next year OuO
But GP100 is next year OuO
SinCityAssassin
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wapplew
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Nah, Xbox one will stay the same, just that Xbox two will only play corss (half) gen games.
Bits N Pieces
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Couldn't this just be the NX?
neurosisxeno
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It's not that they are poor compared to Intel's Offerings, they are slightly slower than equivalent Atom Cores, it's that they were originally designed around energy efficiency and being used within Netbooks and Notebooks. They aren't CPU cores designed for high performance computing, but Sony/Microsoft didn't want to pay out the ass for Intel Cores, and were sick of using PowerPC-based Solutions. They had to go with AMD, and they didn't want to include things like power bricks, so they had to keep power usage in check which meant weak CPU's.
Possumowner
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Vita 2...believe
wapplew
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Is the safer less risky move. Is it the right move? That's debatable.
MrCunningham
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The Sega CD is making a comeback? Where do I sign up?!
Graphics Horse
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NVidia so salty
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amstradcpc
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Well,we already knew this and also knew they had a zen based apu in their roadmap for 2016.
StrongBlackVine
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How I picture ps4k supporters
Funny because it is the people that are against PS4K having meltdowns, with you being one of the main ones. The supporters of an upgrade are absolutely giddy.
johancruijff
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Believe
sechsterangriff
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If the total PS4 userbase was equivalent to 100 people, I imagine that would make about 5 people...
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Just because they have revenue from new designs incoming later this year does not mean anything is launching this year nor does it imply that upgraded consoles are a real thing. AMD sold almost all their fabs years ago, these days they sell chip designs which in most cases aren't actually produced by AMD anymore. So making money in 2nd half just means that whoever buys the new designs will start production of those chips at the earliest at that point. Since we have no idea how their contracts are set up (do they have to provide chip designs for die shrinks free of charge?) this could really just be the long awaited die shrink of the existing APUs for the console revision (slim, less power consumption, same feature set). Which was supposedly timed for Q1 of 2016. Also they are talking about their second half of fiscal 2016, don't they? That's October 2016 - March 2017. Could mean new consoles launching holiday 2017 as you typically have to ramp up production months ahead of a launch. Sony briefing devs now would also suggest 2017 at the earliest.
StrongBlackVine
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If the total PS4 userbase was equivalent to 100 people, I imagine that would make about 5 people...
You have no way of knowing that and regardless the potential customer base is much larger than current PS4 owners.
sechsterangriff
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You don't say...
Milly Osworth
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They mention "some revenue" so it must be NX.
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Isn't that kind of the point of the comic?
They mention "some revenue" so it must be NX.
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lol
CyberPunked
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E3 is gonna be weired man
gaming_noob
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Time to book off a few days for the e3 conferences. Please don't disappoint.
JumPeRJumPzZ
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Oooooooo~
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