Could be. I guess maybe I'm oversimplifying things too much but I'd be trying to do something (anything) to get away rather than wait around for fishermen to turn me into the authorities if I could be accused of (or was) spying. I guess they were on islands and there was little they could do though...
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Amelia Earhart Mystery: Newly Found Photo
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Could be. I guess maybe I'm oversimplifying things too much but I'd be trying to do something (anything) to get away rather than wait around for fishermen to turn me into the authorities if I could be accused of (or was) spying. I guess they were on islands and there was little they could do though...
The Albatross
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I did a Google search for the Japanese steamer in the photo, and love how the top result was this person's way out there Amelia Earhart conspiracy blog from 2015:
https://earharttruth.wordpress.com/...ws-clips-witness-accounts-suggest-real-event/
But....... the photo corroborates everything in this blog entry, if of course, it all checks out. Interviews with Japanese/South Pacific fishermen from the 80s saying her plane crashed near Mili atol, this steamer being in the vicinity of where she was last seen or known to be seen, the steamer showing up in that photo at a larger island (Jaluit) which is pretty close to Mili...
I was ready to dismiss all of this earlier in the day when I saw the headlines, but this is pretty cool. Kinda wish the Japanese were as notorious record keepers as the Germans during WWII, and we'd likely have some record of prisoners of war (or, near enough prisoners of war). Although, with the whole spy theory, and even the more outlandish versions that she was released after the war and basically in witness protection, you'd think that the Japanese would have used her capture as some sort of propaganda for justifying attacking Pearl Harbor. Like, say they captured Earhart and verified that she was a spy, you'd imagine that would be pretty effective propaganda for Japan, that so called folk hero common people like Earhart, were actually American imperialist spies. A lot of the arguments against the spy theory are why Roosevelt never disclosed it, or why it hasn't been declassified, etc., but I'd more wonder why the Japanese didn't propagandize the capture of an American spy who was an American folk hero, even 3 years later when the war began in earnest.
I'm pretty sure the article linked was from the Daily Mail, which is a banned link here. If you go to Daily Mail and paste this on it'll show up: /news/article-3139044/Are-bits-metal-proof-Amelia-Earhart-died-captured-Japanese-remote-Pacific-atoll-U-S-government-KNEW-covered-up.html
That said, National Geographic isn't a very reliable source for anything, either, at least any more. The website posts a lot of junk, and the TV channel is worse.
https://earharttruth.wordpress.com/...ws-clips-witness-accounts-suggest-real-event/
But....... the photo corroborates everything in this blog entry, if of course, it all checks out. Interviews with Japanese/South Pacific fishermen from the 80s saying her plane crashed near Mili atol, this steamer being in the vicinity of where she was last seen or known to be seen, the steamer showing up in that photo at a larger island (Jaluit) which is pretty close to Mili...
I was ready to dismiss all of this earlier in the day when I saw the headlines, but this is pretty cool. Kinda wish the Japanese were as notorious record keepers as the Germans during WWII, and we'd likely have some record of prisoners of war (or, near enough prisoners of war). Although, with the whole spy theory, and even the more outlandish versions that she was released after the war and basically in witness protection, you'd think that the Japanese would have used her capture as some sort of propaganda for justifying attacking Pearl Harbor. Like, say they captured Earhart and verified that she was a spy, you'd imagine that would be pretty effective propaganda for Japan, that so called folk hero common people like Earhart, were actually American imperialist spies. A lot of the arguments against the spy theory are why Roosevelt never disclosed it, or why it hasn't been declassified, etc., but I'd more wonder why the Japanese didn't propagandize the capture of an American spy who was an American folk hero, even 3 years later when the war began in earnest.
I'm pretty sure the article linked was from the Daily Mail, which is a banned link here. If you go to Daily Mail and paste this on it'll show up: /news/article-3139044/Are-bits-metal-proof-Amelia-Earhart-died-captured-Japanese-remote-Pacific-atoll-U-S-government-KNEW-covered-up.html
That said, National Geographic isn't a very reliable source for anything, either, at least any more. The website posts a lot of junk, and the TV channel is worse.
RecRoulette
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Huh, must have been when Fox bought them out.
I tried outlining him in MS Paint.
This is how I see him:
Does this help?
Thank you, that is immensely helpful. I was imagining a profile view of him facing to the left and thought it was an insane stretch.
Mr. Luchador
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Nat Geo, sadly, has turned into this strange docudrama production, using historical moments to spin into drama. The line between fact and fiction blurring more and more each passing year.
Robdraggoo
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What year was the photo taken? Couldn't find it in the article.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Yup. They tease and tease and tease the one nugget of actual information they have for 40 minutes. The flirt with answering the question asked at the start of the program, and entire hook, the entire. Recap the previous 10 minutes every 5 minutes with a small bit of new discussion.
I mean, I'm just bitter I've sat through 4 seasons of Cure of Oak Island.
Crimson_Gold
Member
Have you ever heard of the lizard people, grays, and the angelic looking aliens with a name I cannot remember? Well, I have a few detailed books for you. I mean, if you're ready for the truth...
Mr. Luchador
Member
Nordic?
Razgriz-Specter
Member
You don't like watching 4 seasons of people circle jerking on an island only to put some real effort in on the last episode or 2?...
to actually find some evidence before immediately stating "well thats it for now, one step closer when we return to the island 6+ months from now"
I still watch and enjoy Curse of Oak Island anyway
SparkleMotion
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Reading this topic, I'm way more interested in the time traveling hipster.
Mr. Luchador
Member
ARGH WHY YOU DO THIS!?
Funny.
There's no definitive proof of what happened to Amelia, and I doubt we'll ever have it unless some long-held official record comes out, but that photo certainly is interesting when combined with the other accounts.
Crimson_Gold
Member
That sounds vaguely familiar. But I need to see your secret Mars base decoder ring before I can say any more
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We should ask the time traveller he will know...
Travel back in time, wear modern clothes so you stand out as much as possible.
Checks out.
yeah, I read the following post and explanation
Crimson_Gold
Member
Wasn't there an Eek the Cat episode about her too?
I think whatever happened must've been a big deal at the time and now everyone has either decided not to ever say anything or whatever she was up to at the time is still relevant today.
Mr. Luchador
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Lionel Mandrake
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If this turns out to be true, Cracked, Buzzfeed, and the like are going to have to update a lot "5 Unsolved Mysteries That Have Totally Been Solved!" lists. It seems like everybody was subscribed to the "we found bones and plane parts near the island she was heading to" theory.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Ha,
Its funny how frustrating that show can be when its on... and yet I always end up looking forward to its return.
I guess its just a hope that something amazing is there that will be found some day(no not Shakespeare transcripts or the Ark of the Covenant).
Unsealed Alien Files used to be my go to show for background noise while working or cleaning around the house.
Crimson_Gold
Member
Sleepless nights filled with Netflix alien shows makes for a good time, friend
Mr. Luchador
Member
Same. It's a drinking game at this point.
I'm with you. I'm with you! Those horrible 90s low budget VHS rip documentaries on Netflix are great.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
I really don't expect they would.
Back in the '80s and '90s it was still alive in popular culture because our grandparents were alive at the time. My grandfather was a recon pilot in WWII, though he never went overseas to combat zones.
There's probably no official records of it at this point.
Alcotholic
Banned
I find shows like that pointless, since if something of some importance is discovered or solved it's likely to be reported online before the episode is aired.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Yeah.
I know this isn't a Curse of Oak Island thread, but it seems to have attracted a bit of crossover. I can't help but think Samuel Ball found whatever wealth was on that island. He went from Slave to wealthy man over night in a time you'd think it was near impossible to achieve.
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Razgriz-Specter
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Thats true but I do actually like to see how they do a lot of this stuff, and the history of it so im fine with these kind of things every now and then.
They do find "stuff" but really a lot of the time it seems like investor bait to keep going.
Some stuff is kind of interesting though.
LoveCake
Member
We should ask the time traveller he will know...
Hmmm
I think that what did happen to Amelia Earhart will be one of those mysteries that will never be known, unless the plane is found at the bottom of the ocean or buried in the ground, it will just go on and on, I do hope that the mystery is solved as I would be very interested to know what did happen.
s_mirage
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Yeah, I'm sceptical. Most of the faces are too low resolution and blurry to be identified, and there's not enough detail on the person marked as Earhart to even identify them as female with any kind of certainty.
As for experts, well, shows about wild new theories never fail to get someone to support their case.
As for experts, well, shows about wild new theories never fail to get someone to support their case.
If you compare the notable features of Fred Noonan, a white guy with a receding hair line, against the other men of Japanese origin present in the picture..well..
andythinkpad
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That's not the back of a woman according to the expert eyes of mine.
Marky Mark
Member
I'm on mobile so can't oblige but where are the rest of the coloured people? But please don't do anything to Amelia. I did a school project on her in primary school so she holds a place close to my heart.I tried outlining him in MS Paint.
This is how I see him:
Does this help?
NBC News has the story here with more detail
Video from the Today Show, where they talk to some people from the History Channel special & show some footage.
Direct link to the "photo analyst" segment
Video from the Today Show, where they talk to some people from the History Channel special & show some footage.
Direct link to the "photo analyst" segment
oh yeah I know we all wished that the Japanese secretly killed an American heroine and have been keeping the secret for almost a 100 years already...
that wouldn't be as complicated as finding her bones in the middle of the Pacific or nothin.
CadetMahoney
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Her bones were found in documentary I saw way back.
I mean having 25th century replicator technology would make this easy to account for. It would take an electron resonance scanner to discern the difference. Although we have advanced resolution capable of seeing half the width of an hydrogen atom I would be hard pressed to see it used in this instance.
That still could align with this photo. The Japanese could have dumped her on that island with no way to get off.
But as I said, we'll probably never know the whole truth.
buttery fistful
Member
sorry for the ignorance, but if she survived and that photo is real...what happened to her after that?
JetBlackPanda
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She became a prisoner of war and was probably executed when the Alies started to seize the islands.
s_mirage
Member
The only defining feature is the apparent hairline. His face has no detail in the photograph, is largely in shadow, and could quite well belong to a Japanese guy too. There isn't enough detail to determine race without suggesting it with pictures of Noonan.
Unless they're working from a much higher quality photo in terms of both resolution and contrast, I just don't see how this is enough to stand up to scrutiny.
Edit: Oh, as for "Earhart" in the photo being ID'd as a woman because of the hair length: doesn't the guy on the right of the group seem to have similar length hair?
TheGameshark
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As others have said she was probably captured by the Japanese, assuming her surviving and ending up one of these islands is legit.
V
Vilix
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How can you look at that picture and tell one ethnicity from another?
clarknova156
Member
They would never confirm this if it's true. Being responsible for killing a massive icon like that , yea no.
That was 80 years ago. Probably no records from that time still exist.