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American Idol - Season 6 Discussion.

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joesmokey said:
Wow, what a fracking waste of a season. No sense in watching next week.

I seriously can't believe Blake got this far, that just baffles me.

I can understand Jordin winning, she's overall a better package in that she's much more marketable, but Melinda deserved to win this year. Oh well, it's not like Melinda isn't going to have an enormouse career.

My exact sentiments.
 
Wow, I really cant believe Melinda is out. She was incredible.

Im glad blake got through to the finals. Vocal wise, he isnt one of the best, but he's different to anyone we've seen.
 
Wow, can't believe they kicked off Dolittle. She was just as marketable as the Soul Patrol dude.

Jordin is greatly overrated. Randy and Paula always seem to pick their favorite and praise them till no end. They really should get some of the credit for her getting this far. I think Simon saw it coming which is why he hyped Melinda and nitpicked Jordin.

Blake, as said before, doesn't have the greatest voice but can pull off some original numbers. I got a little tired of seeing his lame dance moves and yawning-esq vocal styling. Still glad to see him in the finals because who knows what he's going to sing.

This season is definitely the weakest yet.
 
While coming to work this morning, I was listening to the radio, they were talking about American Idol, one of the DJs was saying that doesn't matter that Melinda was booted yesterday from the show, because she is all set for the future, with that incredible voice and already one sponsorship for Head and Shoulders shampoo, because that girl got no neck. :lol
 
Xenon said:
Still glad to see him in the finals because who knows what he's going to sing.

The same thing he's been singing since the show started. Some mid-tempo pop song with mellow or soft vocals with a few beatbox effects thrown in. I think it's hilarious when they ask him to sing a traditional rock song. Even one that suits his voice, like the Police tune the other night. They throw a ton of background vocals in for him to help him out and he looks all uncomfortable because he can't do his lame robot dance.
 
Spectral Glider said:
The same thing he's been singing since the show started. Some mid-tempo pop song with mellow or soft vocals with a few beatbox effects thrown in. I think it's hilarious when they ask him to sing a traditional rock song. Even one that suits his voice, like the Police tune the other night. They throw a ton of background vocals in for him to help him out and he looks all uncomfortable because he can't do his lame robot dance.
I was pissed when he beat-box'ed "You give love a bad name". You don't **** with the classics. You just don't. Especially not when you're some well-off white kid who thinks he's Run-DMC.
 
bumpkin said:
I was pissed when he beat-box'ed "You give love a bad name". You don't **** with the classics. You just don't. Especially not when you're some well-off white kid who thinks he's Run-DMC.
Like Simon said with that song, you will either love it or hate it. I loved it. He made a "classic" song sound good again. Who cares if he's a well-off white kid... he's at least creative and has talent. I'm glad he is in the Final 2 even if I never did vote for him.
 
Spectral Glider said:
The same thing he's been singing since the show started. Some mid-tempo pop song with mellow or soft vocals with a few beatbox effects thrown in. I think it's hilarious when they ask him to sing a traditional rock song. Even one that suits his voice, like the Police tune the other night. They throw a ton of background vocals in for him to help him out and he looks all uncomfortable because he can't do his lame robot dance.


Not really. He's easily the most varied performer on the show. He even picked an new obscure song for last night while the other two pulled out their greatest hits. Yes like every singer he is limited by his voice. But I never would have thought I'd hear a Keen or 311 song, let alone done well, on AI.
 
Xenon said:
Not really. He's easily the most varied performer on the show. He even picked an new obscure song for last night while the other two pulled out their greatest hits. Yes like every singer he is limited by his voice. But I never would have thought I'd hear a Keen or 311 song, let alone done well, on AI.

But they're all the same style song, mid-tempo pop with no vocal challenges. I fail to see the variety in his performances. He's the same every week.
 
Spectral Glider said:
But they're all the same style song, mid-tempo pop with no vocal challenges. I fail to see the variety in his performances. He's the same every week.

Well I'll just agree to disagree here on the variety. But I'll take interesting over challenging any day, not to say their exclusive. I'm not alone because unlikely singers made it to the finals two years in row. If it was just about the voice opera singers would be cleaning house. If you switched Jordin and Melinda's looks I'm sure Jordin would be out.
 
Xenon said:
Well I'll just agree to disagree here on the variety. But I'll take interesting over challenging any day, not to say their exclusive. I'm not alone because unlikely singers made it to the finals two years in row. If it was just about the voice opera singers would be cleaning house. If you switched Jordin and Melinda's looks I'm sure Jordin would be out.

See, I don't find him interesting either. In the beginning he was interesting, yes, but week after week of this and it's just worn thin on me. Before he even hits the stage, I know exactly what to expect of him.
 
Spectral Glider said:
But they're all the same style song, mid-tempo pop with no vocal challenges. I fail to see the variety in his performances. He's the same every week.


I'm going to assume now that you don't sing at all. He puts challenges in most of his songs by tackling the gymnastics that he can do. All of which are insanely difficult to pull off.
 
Well people just ruined the finale, great America. We had the chance to have two excellent singers go at it, no clear favorite, and that is all ruined now. I like Blake, he is very talented but he is not even close to being the best singer. Jordin won, no point in even watching. Can't believe they kicked off one of the best singers the show has ever had.
 
krypt0nian said:
I'm going to assume now that you don't sing at all. He puts challenges in most of his songs by tackling the gymnastics that he can do. All of which are insanely difficult to pull off.

Being able to create sound effects and hitting and sustaining high notes with the right amount of control and timing are not one in the same.
 
MiamiWesker said:
Well people just ruined the finale, great America. We had the chance to have two excellent singers go at it, no clear favorite, and that is all ruined now. I like Blake, he is very talented but he is not even close to being the best singer. Jordin won, no point in even watching. Can't believe they kicked off one of the best singers the show has ever had.

Actually, I think Blake has a really good shot at winning. He is *extremely* popular and has a unique style. Jordin's great, but she's also inconsistent. It's going to come down to performances next week.
 
SteveMeister said:
Actually, I think Blake has a really good shot at winning. He is *extremely* popular and has a unique style. Jordin's great, but she's also inconsistent. It's going to come down to performances next week.


A unique style of what?

A unique style of suck?

Jesus, this is supposed to be a singing competition. The only thing unique about Blake is that he has been mediocre singer compared to everyone else for the last 5 weeks.

Simon Cowell likes to criticize people and tell them its a singing competition.

Well he's dead wrong as proved by what happened last night and last season. Its not about who the best singer is.

Blake has very, very little vocal talent compared to many others that have gone home and he's been living on the whole 'trying to be different' with a pretty good degree of success. Its hard to believe that someone who isn't a great singer has a good chance of winning this thing, but it happened last year as well
 
The question is who's album will sell regardless. I honestly think that if Chris Richardson can come up with something contemporary, or front line a band i.e. Matchbox 20, Train ect that he might end up selling the best, as I can see his marketing strength - Blake's too - although I honestly question if one could listen to a whole CD that shit.

The music industry needs some standard of quality to really come along again though.

Oh and my god was it me or did anyone else find Maroon 5 horrible last night?
 
Out of all of the final 12 contestants, I think that Melinda's the only one we're still going to be hearing about 10 years from now.

Don't get me wrong -- I don't think Blake's all that good. He is unique and different, but most of the time he sounds out of breath when he sings. I think he has had a few really fun performances. Jordin as I said is a better singer, but she's also very inconsistent and has had some REALLY bad performances during the competition.

Yes, Melinda is by far the better singer -- she's probably the best singer the competition has ever had. But America votes, and people can vote as often as they like, so of course it's more about popularity than talent. I can't believe anyone's surprised by that.
 
Christopher said:
Oh and my god was it me or did anyone else find Maroon 5 horrible last night?


That's kind of been the status quo for the season. All the "big stars" that have come on and performed have sounded horrible. The only ones who haven't are the former Idol stars (Carrie, Kelly and Elliot).

As wierd as it sounds, I think a lot of them choke up on the stage there. How often do they really get to perform in front of 25 million people?


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To be honest, I don't think any of the top 4 will have much record success (aside from the usual 100k-200k AI first week sales). Melinda has a similar gospel sound that Fantasia had that never crossed over from the urban charts. Blake is BLAND. Vocally and how he performs (It ok to make facial expressions, bud) .. everything is flat. Although Chris Daughtery sold well with his Nickleback-lite stuff .. I don't really see any demand for a Maroon 5-lite performer. Jordin is the real wildcard .. because she is so young there is a huge upside on her. She reminds me a lot of Kimberly Locke (who had the hit, "8th World Wonder") ... who had a decent run a few years ago.

In the end, these people live and die with their songwriters. If they don't have good songs written for them, they can't get radio play.
 
ToxicAdam said:
In the end, these people live and die with their songwriters. If they don't have good songs written for them, they can't get radio play.

Speaking of songwriting, whoever wrote those final songs for Katherine McPhee and Taylor Hicks that were supposed to be their first hits, should be fired.

Both of those songs were terrible and I really think it sabotaged their careers coming out of the gate. Even the judges last year said that both of their first singles were terrible when they first performed them during finale week.
 
Both of these contestants have "average at best" vocals. How the hell did the contest come down to these 2. Were the others just that awful?
 
Jordin blew Blake off the stage in round 1, though the judges were hesitant to say so in favor of trying to make this finale look better than it is. At least Simon called out Blake's second performance for being the boring piece of drek it was.
 
Melinda is F-ing annoying as hell. I knew she wouldn't make it. Yes, she sings well but she's always boring. Always. She does a few blues songs well but when was a blues album number 1 lately?
 
Finally a good performance. I hadn't been watching this season and just happened to have this one on, and I was beginning to wonder what brand of flavored crack America had been smoking to promote these two. Blake still sounds generic average to me, but this last performance by Jordin should have put her over.
 
Hitler Stole My Potato said:
In other words, not at all.
:lol best post.

I don't know if Jordin will really have any mass appeal at all, or if she'll fade and bomba like Diana DeGarmo, the other young power singer with the bubbly personality.

Taylor was a complete bomb.
 
Cooter said:
Melinda is F-ing annoying as hell. I knew she wouldn't make it. Yes, she sings well but she's always boring. Always. She does a few blues songs well but when was a blues album number 1 lately?

What a retarded thing to say. Have you seen the number one's in the US? ****ing Gwen Stefani and Avril Levine. Melinda has a good voice, and good range, she doesn't sing bubble gum pop top 100 songs, she finds her own voice...which is what this competition is about.
 
Christopher said:
What a retarded thing to say. Have you seen the number one's in the US? ****ing Gwen Stefani and Avril Levine. Melinda has a good voice, and good range, she doesn't sing bubble gum pop top 100 songs, she finds her own voice...which is what this competition is about.

Also explains why she'll fall off the face of the earth.
 
What a retarded thing to say. Have you seen the number one's in the US? ****ing Gwen Stefani and Avril Levine. Melinda has a good voice, and good range, she doesn't sing bubble gum pop top 100 songs, she finds her own voice...which is what this competition is about.

The whole "who me? You think I sing good" act got old after 3 weeks. Yes, she sings well but I think she needs to stay in backup. She is not unique at all.

Oh, and I can't stand watching here get interviewed.
 
Katherine was a good singer.

This is an AWFUL song and Jordin crying is so loltastical.

edit: all three songs jordin just stood there.
 
Jordin *should* win. Depends on how many teenage girls vote, and how often.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see Melinda up there singing at the end of next year's finale, as opposed to either Blake or Jordin.
 
Dial Idol:

Jordin: 80%

Blake 60%

Persoanlly though I'd love to see how it would go WITHOUT the judge commentary as you can tell they licked Jordan's feet.
 
SteveMeister said:
Jordin *should* win. Depends on how many teenage girls vote, and how often.

Yeah, after last year and parts of this year, no telling how some of the votes will go. In any event, it's not going to be remembered as one of the better seasons, but I don't see how last year's was much better. In both cases better vocalists got booted earlier than expected. Will be interesting to see early ratings for next season.
 
I didn't watch tonight, but I just might have to download the episode to hear Blake choke on something that isn't Maroon 5/Jamiroquai/Robin Thicke.
 
Blake got my vote a long time ago when he busted out a 311 song back in week 3 or 4 or w/e it was. He sounded bad tonight, though. Hearing both sing the same horrible song makes it looked rigged in favor of her.

He would have been better off singing a couple Sting/Police songs and getting out of there with a fat contract.

Man he sounded bad tonight though.
 
Jordon could do really well in the long run, she's really young/girly and the young american idol audience would probably stick around with her.
 
Blake just has no range in his voice. When he is forced to sing songs that require range (like that last one), it becomes dreadfully apparent. That's why he does well with Maroon 5 songs .. they are mid-tempo songs that don't challenge your vocals (After watching them perform live, I understand why).

I thought it was hilarious that for half of that song, the backup singers were singing louder than him.
 
PantherLotus said:
Blake got my vote a long time ago when he busted out a 311 song every week of the competition.

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It was hardly rigged in her favor. He got by the entire season by singing the same song in the same style, letting him do that on the finale would have been just as much rigging it in his favor.
 
I like the winning song but man, that was definitely not Blake's style. That said, he didn't do it too badly. I think it would work with his singing but it's like his voice is just a little off from what would make it good. It's almost there but not quite. It also doesn't help that the background singers were a lot louder than he was for whatever reason.

Jordin definitely should win though based purely on vocal ability. She's not quite as entertaining to watch as Blake but her vocal strength makes up for it.
 
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