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'An All-Male Party Makes Final Fantasy XV 'More Approachable', Says Director
- Thread starter HeelPower
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Yeah >.< A guy can dream though I guess.
I'd just as soon have NONE in Persona 5 than any more soul crushing teases like Kanji
Kinda felt the same about Daisuke.
I think we need an entire 50 page thread about how a Japanese person said "please be nice to me" instead of "hello" like all the normal white people do.
Approachable.
If anything this douchebag "let's get in our bad ass convertible and drive around eating fast food" vibe, while wearing the Anime equivalent of Affliction T Shirts is completely turning me off to the game all together.
I see no problems here. The british accent ties it all together.
Also, you are complaining about guys who look like bros in a game about guys broing it up across country.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
Only white people say hello?
Outtrigger888
Member
Yup can't believe some of the shit in this thread.
Bayonetta is sexist against men because I can't play as a male character. Let's bitch about it
People were shitty teenagers 9 years ago.
Approachable.
If anything this douchebag "let's get in our bad ass convertible and drive around eating fast food" vibe, while wearing the Anime equivalent of Affliction T Shirts is completely turning me off to the game all together.
Not going to please everybody with anything.
I think it's an awesome design, and love all four of the main characters.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Blame Nomura when he came up with this story 9 years ago.
Tell me about it gaming today is a sensitive topic and yet we want new experiences/trying something dif.. But a 4 male cast wearing black and everybody loses their minds lol
Abinash117
Member
Probably she could; probably could be a used as a joke every now and again or they don't even mention it at all, which could be weird, but not a big deal(or that could be the joke like everyone but party finds it weird).
Sometimes I hear some guys describe their female friends as ' One of the guys', although I don't know if they really do act differently around eachother. Nothing is wrong about a group of guys adventuring, if that's how Square wants the game and the story to be.
Manmademan
Member
Agree completely.
This attitude exists, but is pretty rare these days among the target audience for square's games. Final Fantasy has had strong women populating it's casts forever without anyone questioning why say, Tifa was the strongest brawler of FF7.
Square is the last videogame company you could accuse of perpetuating that, especially after the whole XIII saga.
It's kind of funny to think about the fact that FF15 has allowed two generations of teenagers to slip by.
lightchris
Member
More diversity I guess. I don't think women and men are treated exactly the same in the FF15 universe, but even if they were it'd at least be difference in outer appearance and voice acting.
It's not a dealbreaker or anything, just a little thing among many that make me feel sceptical about the game.
robertsan21
Member
Final fantasy need a big cast, I am talking 6-8 characters that are playable. I love that and its sad that we wont see that in this FF game that we have been waiting for so long .
I like females in my FF games, but if he doesnt want us to play as one I am fine with that, just dont limit the party to these 4 male characters. Give me some more guys to join my party!
.I like females in my FF games, but if he doesnt want us to play as one I am fine with that, just dont limit the party to these 4 male characters. Give me some more guys to join my party!
whiteninja
Member
They should change the name from "Final Fantasy" to "Final Reality"
I edited my post before I saw your response. Hopefully it clarifies that an all male cast is not inherently bad. The way the interview goes is just standard lazy writer syndrome. Lack of imagination in seeing women (or even men in this case) in any other role.
So teenagers.
TheChillyAcademic
Member
No lie, Daisuke might have been hotter than Kanji haha
Come on Kagari, we all know what he meant (right?)
Why does it bother you so much.
I get people like playing a female character or having one in the party, but letting it not play a game is just really silly.
Alex
Member
I agree but I was just addressing his post about why these two attitudes exist in gaming moreso than this game or Square's games in particular.
Irrelevant side story time: oddly enough, our FC (Guild) leader during one of my stints with XIV was absolutely in that category, not horribly, outspokenly so just... when it would ever come up it was so awkward. It was an extremely strange sight given the environment, it also stunted some of the recruitment in our group and caused me to hop ship pretty damn quick.
Which is going to make all the "FFXV developers are sexist!" outcries even more ironic. They made an all female cast FF before a) an all male FF and b) before most game companies even tried to engage a female audience.
threelights
Member
Welp, time to stop following FFXV threads.
I wonder what people's reaction would be if Tabata said "because that's what Nomura wanted to do, so I'm keeping it.". At least he would be able to keep that illusion going for a while more =P
Anyway, I don't care, I seriously don't understand people who do, and start talking about the actual game again Tabata, thanks...
I wonder what people's reaction would be if Tabata said "because that's what Nomura wanted to do, so I'm keeping it.". At least he would be able to keep that illusion going for a while more =P
Anyway, I don't care, I seriously don't understand people who do, and start talking about the actual game again Tabata, thanks...
After Type-0 I'm very worried. Acting and characters already seem better.
GatticusFinch
Member
Approachable.
If anything this douchebag "let's get in our bad ass convertible and drive around eating fast food" vibe, while wearing the Anime equivalent of Affliction T Shirts is completely turning me off to the game all together.
I mean...
Ha, word.
7 hours in and the story is completely mundane and uninteresting. At least the combat is good.
JuanLatino
Member
Just imagine, the story turning out to be great, emotional A MASTERPIECE
And you skipped this experience because of their designs.....Dont be so superficial. Atleast give this game a chance....Maybe the story will clarify the lack of women in the group and justify it
NoctisVsStar
Member
Final fantasy need a big cast, I am talking 6-8 characters that are playable. I love that and its sad that we wont see that in this FF game that we have been waiting for so long
I like females in my FF games, but if he doesnt want us to play as one I am fine with that, just dont limit the party to these 4 male characters. Give me some more guys to join my party!
I could see maybe guests ala KH for short periods but as far as choosing your party for the entirety of the game nope.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Because they look so dumbass in my eyes and as I said, this is just one of the many reasons.
Just imagine, the story turning out to be great, emotional A MASTERPIECE
And you skipped this experience because of their designs.....Dont be so superficial. Atleast give this game a chance....Maybe the story will clarify the lack of women in the group and justify it
I avoid games in which I dislike the art of the characters I'm to control. I love the art and character designs of this game, but understand the won't appeal to everybody. Art isn't some universal thing that's going to appeal to everybody. I just hope the threads don't get filled with shit posts about something that has been the same for at least 9 years.
Acquiescence
Member
I think it's fine that they decided to switch it up this way. You usually have a very diverse central cast when it comes to Final Fantasy anyway, so for the creators to go in the opposite direction and design the core four to be a tight-knit group of guys instead of the usual rag-tag clash of personalities does shake things up a bit. And of course, we already got the female equivalent of this years ago in FFX-2.
My issue more than anything is that the characters look like they've walked off the set of a shoot for the latest godawful K-Pop boyband music video. They really do look like a gaggle of trouts, but I'll get over it in time.
My issue more than anything is that the characters look like they've walked off the set of a shoot for the latest godawful K-Pop boyband music video. They really do look like a gaggle of trouts, but I'll get over it in time.
I think people are misinterpreting the "approachable" adjective. He's not saying that it makes the game more approachable, or that games with women are unapproachable. He's saying it will make the characters more approachable. They'll be more honest, vulnerable, etc. when they're just hanging out with their bros.
Why not make a game about a humanoid species with no concept of gender at all? Heck, why even make it about humanoids?
Because these are facets of life. Yes, the game is a fantasy, and they could do anything they want. But they think a story about a group of young men going on a bro-ad trip together (while fighting monsters with magic and swords and there's also something about crystals in there) will be a fun story, one worth telling and experiencing.
The further you move away from real life, the harder it is to make the story relatable. Aeris's death was a huge plot point, but was always sullied (perhaps not to everyone, but to some) by the fact that in combat a simple Phoenix Down had been shown to heal much more grievous wounds. And even if you accept that plot deaths were realer, the fact that it's a fantasy means a magical resurrection could be just around the corner.
Seriously though. There's no diversity. Even putting aside the lack of females, where's the black guy? The latino? Maybe an asian? Everyone's white. Clothes do not diversity make.I'll not have your sass drama! They all do have different outfits
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
Same. It also makes baseless assumptions about how men and women interact. But given Japan's continued cultural conservatism regarding gender roles, I'm not surprised.
TheChillyAcademic
Member
A lot of guys had just as many issues about X-2, outside of the realization that there would be tons of fan service and that YPR walk around like prostitutes, that it was "too girly" or "all girls just dressing up?" etc etc
Never wins.
Never wins.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
This seems conflicting he did say it would be more approachable for players, but at the same time said hopes females will enjoy it both. There's something fishy here.
It already happened. It's called X-2.
It already happened. It's called X-2.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Yes! I love when people drop the shame-hammer, justified or not!
Boy Band is Quiet.
Wait, wait, wait.
You said 'baseless assumptions' in one sentence, and then 'but that's actually how it is in Japan' in the next.
Wat.