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Analyst DFC: 'Question is not if Microsoft will exit the game business, but when'

In which order will the console vendors exit the industry (with all out by 2020)?


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I think the Scorpio announcement will definitely effect the sales of slimbone but I wouldn't say "kill" them.

This is speaking as someone who was actually ready to buy a slim before the scorpio announcement but decided to wait.

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Dat bump, LOL.

DFC notes that while Sony faces a similar problem with Neo, the machine’s no-show brings with it an air of mystery that could be of benefit. Plus, Sony has not wasted money and effort designing a PS4 Slim that would be potentially scuppered by a new console.

Uhhh...
 
"Plus, Sony has not wasted money and effort designing a PS4 Slim that would be potentially scuppered by a new console."

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Microsoft executives have wanted to get rid of the xbox division for over a decade.

What changed to prompt this belief its about when and not if?
 
Neither Sony nor Nintendo will be exiting the console business any time soon, but I could entertain the idea of Nintendo leaving first if only because Nintendo has reinvented itself before and Playstation is Sony's most profitable branch of business in the entire company by far.
 
Did MS sue DFC in the past?

DFC Intelligence: said:
DFC Intelligence's David Cole agreed, commenting, "The only big issue was when Pro would launch and they have a firm date this year and a solid price. Really this could be a final nail in the coffin for Xbox One now that Microsoft has told consumers to wait until 2017 [for Scorpio]. Sony will have the powerful system with VR now and a well-executed plan that leaves consumers no reason to wait. It is just an all-around compelling proposition."
 
Couldn't the reasoning that Microsoft killed the Xbox One S out the gate be applied to Sony's PS4 Slim? Who would buy either of those consoles now?
 
Couldn't the reasoning that Microsoft killed the Xbox One S out the gate be applied to Sony's PS4 Slim? Who would buy either of those consoles now?
I think Sony would be perfectly happy if more people choose Pro over slim. It all goes in their pockets this holiday season. MS doesn't have that kind of luxury this season.
 
Couldn't the reasoning that Microsoft killed the Xbox One S out the gate be applied to Sony's PS4 Slim? Who would buy either of those consoles now?

Parents for their kids? The PS4 and Xbox One S are going to outsell PS4 Pro and Scorpio respectively. 100 dollar difference (probably more in the case of Xbox One S and Scorpio) is nothing to sneeze at.

Besides, the PS4 Pro is more a supplemental option versus a replacement option.
 
Parents for their kids? The PS4 and Xbox One S are going to outsell PS4 Pro and Scorpio respectively. 100 dollar difference (probably more in the case of Xbox One S and Scorpio) is nothing to sneeze at.

Besides, the PS4 Pro is more a supplemental option versus a replacement option.
Plus psvr. There's a lot of new stuff. Generally a casual consumer will go with whatever is the cheapest option/bundle, especially it's for their kids or something.
 
Couldn't the reasoning that Microsoft killed the Xbox One S out the gate be applied to Sony's PS4 Slim? Who would buy either of those consoles now?
Um plenty of people? I don't have a 4K tv and no intention of buying one - so getting the Slim.

So many people keep saying crap like 'why buy the slim when you can get the pro for £100 more'. Maybe because we want to and we want to save money?
 
Neither Sony nor Nintendo will be exiting the console business any time soon, but I could entertain the idea of Nintendo leaving first if only because Nintendo has reinvented itself before and Playstation is Sony's most profitable branch of business in the entire company by far.

Nah, Nintendo could find great success elsewhere but I doubt there is anything that would be successful enough to make them drop their video game business. Their IPs are strong enough (especially in gaming) that they'd need to just reinvent their hardware business and reinvent their games before reinventing their entire brand.

It would be like Disney leaving animation, it's just not going to happen, regardless of their their success elsewhere.

If Playstation stumbled as a brand again and Sony found other more profitable ventures, Sony would leave before Nintendo.

Games are the core of Nintendo's business and they have tons of value in their IPs and in cash which gives them more options than people give them credit for. Sony on their other hand is all-in with gaming because all their other ventures have failed; once very lucrative and industry-leading ventures.

If Nintendo stumbles they refocus their efforts in gaming while trying to expand in other ways. If Sony stumbles with Playstation, they likely aren't going to scrap much of their multimedia and electronics holdings (which still gives them synergistic holds where one sector can prop up another), even if they are struggling and I can't see them pulling most of their eggs into the Playstation basket if things got that rocky because they could lose their lead at any moment, like with the PS3.

Sure, the PS4 could be a good strategy for Sony across the board, but the Vita was a money pit and the combo of the PS4 Slim, PS4, and PS4 Plus could mean cannibalizing of SKUs, plus we don't know if PSVR will sputter to a halt out the gate or not and Sony has a lot of money tied up in it's success.
 
Um plenty of people? I don't have a 4K tv and no intention of buying one - so getting the Slim.

So many people keep saying crap like 'why buy the slim when you can get the pro for £100 more'. Maybe because we want to and we want to save money?

But anyone can get an OG PS4 with a game for even less, so.....
 
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