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Analyst: iPhone 5C sales are disappointing

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You know a company is on top of the world when something of theirs only sold 10 million in a couple of weeks.
 
You know a company is on top of the world when something of theirs only sold 10 million in a couple of weeks.


They are launching in more countries at the same time. They aren't actually selling a ton more phones with each iteration.
 
The 5S only has 1560 mAh of juice? I will laugh in the face of the next Apple zealot I see that tries to diss Android phones.

There was a time where Apple made the best smartphone on the market. That time has passed.

The real joke here is that Android phone manufacturers can't beat out a phone that holds 1/2 of their battery capacity in real world usage.

The market disagrees with you on the second point as well. The iPhone 5 is still the single best selling handset in the world, every other manufacturer would absolutely love to be in Apple's position right now.
 
Apple’s colorful, plastic iPhone 5C has a big problem: So far, not so many people want it.

In fact, demand for the 5C has been so low compared to the 5S that Apple has reduced fourth quarter orders for the device by roughly 20 percent, Reuters reports.
http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/16/a...5c-orders-because-early-adopters-love-the-5s/

Pegatron Corp, which assembles many of Apple's iPhone 5Cs, had seen orders reduced by less than 20 percent, the source told Reuters on Wednesday, declining to be identified because the information is sensitive.

Hon Hai Precision Industry Co, Apple's other major assembly contractor for the 5C, has had its orders for the same period reduced by a third, the Wall Street Journal reported.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/16/us-apple-5c-idUSBRE99F08J20131016
 
when the new iphone is release with a bigger screen, it will be the greatest thing ever. but yea, nobody wants the 5c.
 
I'm sure the 5s is going to do fine during Christmas. I think the slightly cheaper price and the fun colors are going to appeal to younger kids. I think the problem is the price difference isn't enough. For 100 bucks more you get the latest and greatest.
 
I'm just not sure who this product is supposed to appeal to. iPhones already have a budget model. It's called buying a previous model which stores will still sell and carriers will still sign you up with.

Selling it for not much cheaper than the superior newer model doesn't help.

Either way the phone is being subsidized and most of the cost of the phone is wrapped into your mandatory expensive phone bill. So if you're already flushed with cash enough to afford the $90 phone bill each month, why not slap down a bit more money up front for a far superior phone?
 
I'm just not sure who this product is supposed to appeal to. iPhones already have a budget model. It's called buying a previous model which stores will still sell and carriers will still sign you up with.

Selling it for not much cheaper than the superior newer model doesn't help.

Either way the phone is being subsidized and most of the cost of the phone is wrapped into your mandatory expensive phone bill. So if you're already flushed with cash enough to afford the $90 phone bill each month, why not slap down a bit more money up front for a far superior phone?

3 reasons:

1) Budget
2) Necessity
3) Preference
 
3 reasons:

1) Budget
2) Necessity
3) Preference

Apple already had a product available for those budget people. They've had that product available since the 3GS came out. It's called buying the previous model.

I think introducing yet another line of iPhones only serves to damage your main advantage you have over Android and that is the fact that app developers can rely on a small number of hardware configurations when optimizing their apps.

And consumers are not confused by excess product releases with similar names.

When the iPhone 6 comes out, will it be 6C for the Cheap model? What about 6S, then will the Cheap model become 6SC?

I mean the sales are obviously telling Apple that this product doesn't have the market they thought it would.
 
Oh no! People aren't buying our $99 phone because they're buying our $199 phone!!!

WHAT WILL WE DO?!

that's stupidly simplistic. where is the evidence that people are foregoing the 5C for a 5S? Someone could just as easily say they are avoiding the 5C and instead buying Android or WP.

It doesn't exist, unless you polled people who said they were going to buy a 5C and then checked back with them later. Or if there is data showing that 5C orders were canceled and changed to 5S orders by the same people.

Your comments are asinine and add nothing of nothing, People are less informed just by skimming them.
 
Apple already had a product available for those budget people. They've had that product available since the 3GS came out. It's called buying the previous model.

I think introducing yet another line of iPhones only serves to damage your main advantage you have over Android and that is the fact that app developers can rely on a small number of hardware configurations when optimizing their apps.

And consumers are not confused by excess product releases with similar names.

When the iPhone 6 comes out, will it be 6C for the Cheap model? What about 6S, then will the Cheap model become 6SC?

I mean the sales are obviously telling Apple that this product doesn't have the market they thought it would.

I don't think anything can be gleaned from speculation over sales to date. It seems to be selling well, just not as well as analysts - who traditionally make a career out of the erroneous - have told researchophobes it is supposed to be. Short-attention spans and a steadfast refusal to consult past-precedent is why the arrival of production-line frippery is received like the Ark of the Covenant, year-in, year-out.

If they're up over the 4S last year, it's surely doing what they hoped. The developer comment is completely pointless, because at the 5C's heart is last year's silicon, and this is a pattern that will continue, unless they decide that it's more profitable to revert to last year's phone 'as is' rather tweaking it in to a 'C' model.
 
Apple already had a product available for those budget people. They've had that product available since the 3GS came out. It's called buying the previous model.
Then buy the Iphone5, is what he's saying. Better build, just as cheap, and not the latest and greatest.

5C is the previous model, just with a colourful patina.

that's stupidly simplistic. where is the evidence that people are foregoing the 5C for a 5S? Someone could just as easily say they are avoiding the 5C and instead buying Android or WP.

If the 5S/5C combined is the biggest iPhone launch yet, but 5C sales are "disappointing", what would you think that meant?

5C sales should be compared to that of the 4S during the same time period a year ago. Only way to glean that, AFAIK, is to look at the ASP of the iPhone line during the earnings report, if Apple even discloses that.
 
I like my iphone. Very happy with its functionality. I have tried Android and while there was nothing wrong with it per se, I just preferred iOS. That said, the iphone is too expensive and the price is wholly unjustified. I buy it for no other reason than I haven't found an alternative that truly compares to it.
 
I think that meant that the 5S launched in more countries (China) and more carriers (Docomo JP, T-Mobile USA) than before.

Asymco has launch numbers. If you include the iPhone 5 launch in China with the iPhone 5 launch numbers, there's a 29% increase with the 5C/5S.

If the 5S is outselling the 5C at 4:1 (that's just made up from some numbers I read), then the 5S only sold 3% more than the 5 during its collective launch. Which strikes me as something to be viewed by the bizarre collective of Apple shareholders/stock analysts as more disappointing than the 5C launch for which we have nothing concrete to compare to.
 
Apple already had a product available for those budget people. They've had that product available since the 3GS came out. It's called buying the previous model.

I agree with the point made in the Verge review of the phone: Creating the 5C gave Apple a budget model that they could actually sell and market as a budget phone. Before, they weren't able to do that.

That, and again, they got to change the physical design, which for a lot of people is a plus.

And again, it's really hard to consider the 5c a failure when it's selling millions of units a month. The truth is, remove "iPhone" from the equation, and people would be saying this phone is selling damn well.
 
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