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And Then There Were None |OT| BBC1 9pm 26-28 December

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Ten little soldier boys went out to dine;
One choked his little self and then there were nine.

Nine little soldier boys sat up very late;
One overslept himself and then there were eight.

Eight little soldier boys traveling in Devon;
One said he’d stay there and then there were seven.

Seven little soldier boys chopping up sticks;
One chopped himself in halves and then there were six.

Six little soldier boys playing with a hive;
A bumblebee stung one and then there were five.

Five little soldier boys going in for law,
One got in Chancery and then there were four.

Four little soldier boys going out to sea;
A red herring swallowed one and then there were three.

Three little soldier boys walking in the Zoo;
A big bear hugged one and then there were two.

Two little soldier boys sitting in the sun;
On got frizzled up and then there was one.

One little soldier boy left all alone;
He went and hanged himself and then there were none.


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Set in the 1930s, ten strangers are drawn away from their normal lives to an isolated rock called Soldier Island, off the Devon coast. As the mismatched group wait for the arrival of the hosts, Mr & Mrs U.N. Owen, the weather sours and they find themselves cut off from civilisation, a murderer in their midst...

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Anyone else excited for this? This is universally regarded as Agatha Christie's best murder mystery (which is very high praise), and it looks as if this adaptation is shaping up to be one of the finest and best directed adaptations of her work.

The 1939 novel was last adapted to film in English in 1974, but notably, this is the first ever time it has been adapted to include the original (and far, far superior) ending. It airs in three hour-long parts, once a day through the 26-28 December, 2015.

Interestingly it served as inspiration for Tarantino's The Hateful Eight, which is also released over Christmas.

I'd be interested to see those who don't know the solution to this mystery watch and posit their theories!

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Trailer: click

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Characters:

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Anthony Marston (played by Douglas Booth)
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Playboy and petrolhead, Marston is a breathtaking picture of young manhood.

Beautiful as a sun god, he blasts through life without an iota of self-consciousness – leaving the rest of humanity blinking away the exhaust fumes.


Dr Armstrong (played by Toby Stephens)
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With his Harley Street practice, substantial wealth and enduring good looks, the confident and precise Dr Armstrong, who specialises in women’s ailments, is by most measures a tremendous success.

But it takes little to expose his terrible temper, which sours life for all who cross his path.


Det. Sgt. William Blore (played by Burn Gorman)
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Operating on Soldier Island under a pseudonym, the boorish William Blore is a police detective moonlighting as ‘security’ for the enigmatic Mr and Mrs U.N. Owen. He is ill-at-ease with the complex social web in which he finds himself trapped.


Emily Brent (played by Miranda Richardson)
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A prudish Teddington spinster and passionate Anglican who has devoted her life to improving the lot of young women. Emily’s commitment to Christ knows no limits and those who fail to meet her strict moral standards inevitably suffer the blunt end of her intractable beliefs.


General MacArthur (played by Sam Neill)
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A decorated war hero, General MacArthur is decent, upstanding and thoroughly romantic. A patriot, no doubt about it, yet there is much about the war that haunts him – much that he finds unspeakable.


Justice Lawrence Wargrave (played by Charles Dance)
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Once possessed of a brilliant legal mind, Justice Wargrave became notorious as a merciless ‘hanging judge’ – but is now a diminished figure: profoundly frail and battling against a crumbling memory. However, there is one sentence he has never forgotten...


Philip Lombard (played by Aidan Turner)
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A natural predator in any circumstance, and he knows it. Lombard has made a life in Africa as a soldier of fortune, not through greed or political conviction but because it’s how he feels most thoroughly himself. Whether what he does makes him a good or a bad man is immaterial.


Vera Claythorne (played by Maeve Dermody)
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A games mistress, now beginning a secretarial career after witnessing a terrible tragedy, Vera is decent and polite and plays down her compelling beauty to evade the attention of men. But she is hostage to her darker self...


Thomas Rogers (played by Noah Taylor)
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Hounded from prior employments by cruel gossip, the new butler on Soldier Island has nothing left in the world besides his wife, Ethel. Under the backing of Mr and Mrs U.N. Owen, they are the very model of efficiency and deference – though behind closed doors their partnership is increasingly bitter.


Ethel Rogers (played by Anna Maxwell Martin)
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Meek and biddable, Soldier Island’s housekeeper is the wife of Thomas Rogers, on whom she is utterly dependant. A life of service and the stain of rumour have weakened her soul; Ethel’s one retreat is in the kitchen, where she truly excels.
 
Christmas bump, this looks cool as hell. Is there a legal/moral streaming option for people who have a UK VPN and are British but not living in the UK and not paying the license fee?
 
Christmas bump, this looks cool as hell. Is there a legal/moral streaming option for people who have a UK VPN and are British but not living in the UK and not paying the license fee?

Well if you have a UK vpn then iPlayer should work though it's perhaps not legal/moral but if you want to send me one half a millionth of a penny I'll turn a blind eye to you stealing telly from honest license fee payers like myself
 
Well that was a pretty chilling start. They certainly had a lot of ground to cover in the first hour, so hopefully the next 2 parts will ramp up the excitement (as I'm sure they will).

Anyone watching this who doesn't know the solution?
 
Well that was a pretty chilling start. They certainly had a lot of ground to cover in the first hour, so hopefully the next 2 parts will ramp up the excitement (as I'm sure they will).

Anyone watching this who doesn't know the solution?

My wife was, she was pretty surprised at the reveal of who the killer was despite them fucking up the ending so badly.
 
My wife was, she was pretty surprised at the reveal of who the killer was despite them fucking up the ending so badly.
I just finished it :)

SPOILERS

I'm not sure I agree they fucked it up. I think they could have included something involving the bottle being discovered by a fisherman. But as it is, I don't mind that he revealed himself to her right at the end. I mean, in the book he watches her hang as he oft enjoyed, then replaces the chair; I think this version is similar enough, it's basically the same, but there's just an actual conversation added in between. It's not like they changed it by making her not try and hang herself.

Otherwise more or less the adaptation was almost painstakingly faithful and the better for it, and almost all the additions (including the horror and gore) and fleshed out flashbacks added a weighty realism.

Overall it was extremely chilling and I will watch it again very soon. Hopefully convince some friends!
 
If she had just hung herself and fade to black it would have been great.

Then come back and show the world and police having no idea what occurred in that house with the discovery of the message in a bottle leading to a narrated by Wargrave flashback with a few scenes of him taking the figures, hiding in the room at the end, among other things.

And Blore's death...? An old man holding a rug came running at him with a knife?

edit: I forgot about him somehow shooting himself then sliding the gun across the table afterwards.
 
If she had just hung herself and fade to black it would have been great.

Then come back and show the world and police having no idea what occurred in that house with the discovery of the message in a bottle leading to a narrated by Wargrave flashback with a few scenes of him taking the figures, hiding in the room at the end, among other things.

And Blore's death...? An old man holding a rug came running at him with a knife?

edit: I forgot about him somehow shooting himself then sliding the gun across the table afterwards.
Yeah, the gun was the one thing I was most struck by. I can see people finding that implausible when it didn't need to be. But it's a minor fault IMO. I would have preferred the book's ending but I still really enjoyed it for what it was!!
 
I fear that I might have accidentally spoilt it for myself but a whodunnit, count me in.
There's a hell of a lot going for this adaption besides the solution. But of course with the genre figuring out whodunnit (if anyone...) is part of the fun!

Let us know your thoughts! Are you watching it soon? (As there's hardly anyone else ITT let's make the most of it!)
 
Best thing that's been on TV so far this Christmas, me and the good lady reckon. Didn't know the story before we watched it, and we did guess what was going on, sort of.

If you ever find yourself in Cornwall then a trip to Holywell Bay near Newquay is definitely recommended, and you can see for yourself where the flashback sandy beach scenes with
poor little Cyril
were filmed. It was a bit strange seeing somewhere I know so well on TV.
 
There's a hell of a lot going for this adaption besides the solution. But of course with the genre figuring out whodunnit (if anyone...) is part of the fun!

Let us know your thoughts! Are you watching it soon? (As there's hardly anyone else ITT let's make the most of it!)

I am 10 minutes into it as i post
 
Best thing that's been on TV so far this Christmas, me and the good lady reckon. Didn't know the story before we watched it, and we did guess what was going on, sort of.

If you ever find yourself in Cornwall then a trip to Holywell Bay near Newquay is definitely recommended, and you can see for yourself where the flashback sandy beach scenes with
poor little Cyril
were filmed. It was a bit strange seeing somewhere I know so well on TV.

They filmed Die Another Day there as well.
 
There's a hell of a lot going for this adaption besides the solution. But of course with the genre figuring out whodunnit (if anyone...) is part of the fun!

Let us know your thoughts! Are you watching it soon? (As there's hardly anyone else ITT let's make the most of it!)

Potential spoiler for those who wanna go in blind. It will be tagged but I will mention another movie:



I finished it a few hours ago. I enhjoyed it, I didn't realise how much
M. Night Shyamanlan's
<< Just a director's name
Devil
is basically a remake of it.
 
I had no idea this already came out! I can't wait to watch it with my fiance. He loved watching the entire Poirot series with me and has become an Agatha Christie fan, so he will be excited for this.
 
I had no idea this already came out! I can't wait to watch it with my fiance. He loved watching the entire Poirot series with me and has become an Agatha Christie fan, so he will be excited for this.
Yeah I can almost guarantee that anyone who sits down and properly watches a Poirot or Marple or two will become a fan, were they to be blessed with even a fibre of enjoying puzzles.

Hope you enjoy! And here's hoping he doesn't guess the solution! :P

I finished it a few hours ago. I enhjoyed it, I didn't realise how much ... is basically a remake of it.
Were you right about your potential spoiling?
 
Best thing that's been on TV so far this Christmas, me and the good lady reckon. Didn't know the story before we watched it, and we did guess what was going on, sort of.
Did you guess the who, so to speak, or more just the why? One perhaps leads one to suspect the other, but then of course at a certain point one is forced to discard that solution...
 
Yeah I can almost guarantee that anyone who sits down and properly watches a Poirot or Marple or two will become a fan, were they to be blessed with even a fibre of enjoying puzzles.

Hope you enjoy! And here's hoping he doesn't guess the solution! :P


Were you right about your potential spoiling?

It's all a matter of if you saw the film i referenced. If you hadn't well read the post no fucks given. If you have seen the movie, it will be a huge clue as to who the killer is, that said..... It still doesn't tell you who the killer is even if you'd see the film. I'd say it's safe to read it.
 
This looks great should I watch it?
Yes!

It's all a matter of if you saw the film i referenced. If you hadn't well read the post no fucks given. If you have seen the movie, it will be a huge clue as to who the killer is, that said..... It still doesn't tell you who the killer is even if you'd see the film. I'd say it's safe to read it.
You mean, when you said "I may have spoiled myself" is it because someone said beforehand that it was similar to
Devil
(which I've never seen btw)? I hope you weren't spoiled because that's not fun. I definitely find that the twist at the end of
__Saw__
is also extremely similar.
 
Yes!


You mean, when you said "I may have spoiled myself" is it because someone said beforehand that it was similar to
Devil
(which I've never seen btw)? I hope you weren't spoiled because that's not fun. I definitely find that the twist at the end of
__Saw__
is also extremely similar.

Oh I accidentally started to reveal a bit of a spoiler till I stopped reading it. Thankfully I didn't know who the killer was.
 
man holy shit this miniseries rocks. will watch the final episode later today.

i've enjoyed a few other christie adaptations, makes me wonder why i never bothered to read her books. i should get on that.
 
Yeah I can almost guarantee that anyone who sits down and properly watches a Poirot or Marple or two will become a fan, were they to be blessed with even a fibre of enjoying puzzles.

Hope you enjoy! And here's hoping he doesn't guess the solution! :P

He had no clue who it was :) He was shocked but then started to put the pieces together.

This was a great miniseries with a fantastic cast.
 
Fucking love the stage play. Seen it every time it's in town. Looking damn forward to this. Hopefully I can see it in the US. I subscribe to Acorn, so maybe there?
 
Just finishing watching this on iPlayer. I haven't read the book but I really enjoyed it. Great cast and the ending was really unexpected. Bit disappointed I didn't figure it out.

Am I alone in thinking Aidan Turner could be the next Bond? I think he might suit it.
 
I actually read the book over the summer so I was really excited watching it knowing who the murder was when none of my family did.
 
Wish I'd figured out the killer. Seems kinda obvious in hindsight.
... the ending was really unexpected. Bit disappointed I didn't figure it out.
Haha. Yeah, that's Agatha Christie for you.

Extremely obvious, when you know... which makes repeat viewings enjoyable on a whole other level... especially when you are watching them with newbies who can't see the solution staring them in the face and you're like "how can you not see this?!" lol

man holy shit this miniseries rocks. will watch the final episode later today.

i've enjoyed a few other christie adaptations, makes me wonder why i never bothered to read her books. i should get on that.
Would you like some recommendations on the best adaptations (by way of the Poirot/Marple series)?

Which ones have you seen already, do you know?
 
Haha. Yeah, that's Agatha Christie for you.

Extremely obvious, when you know... which makes repeat viewings enjoyable on a whole other level... especially when you are watching them with newbies who can't see the solution staring them in the face and you're like "how can you not see this?!" lol


Would you like some recommendations on the best adaptations (by way of the Poirot/Marple series)?

Which ones have you seen already, do you know?

I'd like some recommendations, what's on Netflix.
 
Haha. Yeah, that's Agatha Christie for you.

Extremely obvious, when you know... which makes repeat viewings enjoyable on a whole other level... especially when you are watching them with newbies who can't see the solution staring them in the face and you're like "how can you not see this?!" lol


Would you like some recommendations on the best adaptations (by way of the Poirot/Marple series)?

Which ones have you seen already, do you know?

murder on the orient express and a few episodes of poirot. is the whole marple or poirot series on netflix or hulu?
 
I'd like some recommendations, what's on Netflix.
murder on the orient express and a few episodes of poirot. is the whole marple or poirot series on netflix or hulu?
I believe the whole Poirot series is on Netflix, but not Marple.

I'd strongly recommend the following. These are all the best mysteries of the bunch -- and all happen to be a majority of the feature film length adaptations of full Poirot novels. That's not to say the other ones and the hour-long short story adaptations in the early seasons aren't good, though. Pretty much all the feature length ones from Season 6 onward range from good to great, and are all worth a watch, and a handful of the shorter cases are quick and enjoyable but not really essential viewing, and the solutions are often a little less "epic" and are repurposed to some degree anyway in the feature length stories. If you can't handle the early 90s film quality (hey, some don't!), skip to S7E2.

S2E1 Peril at End House (may appear in two parts?)
S4E2 Death in the Clouds
S4E1 The ABC Murders
S6E1 Hercule Poirot's Christmas
S6E2 Hickory Dickory Dock
S7E2 Lord Edgware Dies
S8E1 Evil Under the Sun
S8E2 Murder in Mesopotamia
S9E1 Five Little Pigs
S9E2 Sad Cypress
S9E3 Death on the Nile
S9E4 The Hollow
S10E1 Mystery of the Blue Train
S10E3 After the Funeral
S12E3 Murder on the Orient Express
S13E5 Curtain: Poirot's Last Case

(However I'd save the last one till the very last and watch some of the other ones which are also very good, depending on how you go.)
 
I believe the whole Poirot series is on Netflix, but not Marple.

I'd strongly recommend the following. These are all the best mysteries of the bunch -- and all happen to be a majority of the feature film length adaptations of full Poirot novels. That's not to say the other ones and the hour-long short story adaptations in the early seasons aren't good, though. Pretty much all the feature length ones from Season 6 onward range from good to great, and are all worth a watch, and a handful of the shorter cases are quick and enjoyable but not really essential viewing, and the solutions are often a little less "epic" and are repurposed to some degree anyway in the feature length stories. If you can't handle the early 90s film quality (hey, some don't!), skip to S7E2.

S2E1 Peril at End House (may appear in two parts?)
S4E2 Death in the Clouds
S4E1 The ABC Murders
S6E1 Hercule Poirot's Christmas
S6E2 Hickory Dickory Dock
S7E2 Lord Edgware Dies
S8E1 Evil Under the Sun
S8E2 Murder in Mesopotamia
S9E1 Five Little Pigs
S9E2 Sad Cypress
S9E3 Death on the Nile
S9E4 The Hollow
S10E1 Mystery of the Blue Train
S10E3 After the Funeral
S12E3 Murder on the Orient Express
S13E5 Curtain: Poirot's Last Case

(However I'd save the last one till the very last and watch some of the other ones which are also very good, depending on how you go.)

How do these mysteries compare to say Elementary with regards to case variety, inventiveness of deaths and problem solving. Elementary is probably my favourite detective procedural.
 
How do these mysteries compare to say Elementary with regards to case variety, inventiveness of deaths and problem solving. Elementary is probably my favourite detective procedural.
When I said they are her best mysteries (in my opinion, at least), part of the appeal is the inventiveness. I mean, Agatha Christie was the original inventor, something for which she is world renowned. In that list, you will find almost every possible combination of method of murder, motive, victim, alibi, revelation of secret identity... almost every murder is a puzzle that seems impossible to solve until a single clue, or even a word uttered by someone, suddenly unravels it for Poirot.

In fact, you may find a handful of Elementary cases were inspired by some of the Poirots. I haven't watched much of Elementary, but from what I've seen, it's almost the same. The advantage with Poirot is that they are twice the length of an episode of Elementary, which gives just that bit extra to flesh out characters more, and have a few more of them, really make you invested in the whole affair, which makes the ending much more "epic" in nature. Rather than being a surprising "oh! wow that person did it" reaction, Poirot usually elicits more of a Shyamalan-style "HOLY FUCK!" twist ending reaction.

PS I'd also recommend BBC's "Death in Paradise" series (8 episodes a season, currently at 4 seasons), if you can come across a copy of it. It's the same thing as Elementary really, except starring Brits, set on a Caribbean Island. The number of ingenious puzzling murders they come up with in one location is just as brilliantly shocking as some of the murders themselves.
 
When I said they are her best mysteries (in my opinion, at least), part of the appeal is the inventiveness. I mean, Agatha Christie was the original inventor, something for which she is world renowned. In that list, you will find almost every possible combination of method of murder, motive, victim, alibi, revelation of secret identity... almost every murder is a puzzle that seems impossible to solve until a single clue, or even a word uttered by someone, suddenly unravels it for Poirot.

In fact, you may find a handful of Elementary cases were inspired by some of the Poirots. I haven't watched much of Elementary, but from what I've seen, it's almost the same. The advantage with Poirot is that they are twice the length of an episode of Elementary, which gives just that bit extra to flesh out characters more, and have a few more of them, really make you invested in the whole affair, which makes the ending much more "epic" in nature. Rather than being a surprising "oh! wow that person did it" reaction, Poirot usually elicits more of a Shyamalan-style "HOLY FUCK!" twist ending reaction.

PS I'd also recommend BBC's "Death in Paradise" series (8 episodes a season, currently at 4 seasons), if you can come across a copy of it. It's the same thing as Elementary really, except starring Brits, set on a Caribbean Island. The number of ingenious puzzling murders they come up with in one location is just as brilliantly shocking as some of the murders themselves.
I love Death in Paradise, it's like Castle except not shit.
 
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