speculawyer
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43?
Natural Causes?
Yeah, seems a bit odd.
He certainly always looked a lot older than his age. Perhaps adopting the old man "hey you kids get off my lawn" persona is not good for your health?
43?
Natural Causes?
Who should get to define what is "proper discourse"?
I think it was restoring it to its proper original blatant role.I'm something of a moral relativist, but the methods Breitbart and his ilk in the right wing radio, Drudge Report, and Fox News deploy are indisputably dishonest, misleading and immoral.
There's nothing wrong with calling him out or saying that his brand of "journalism" was doing damage to our political discourse.
Hey, take it up with hundreds of years of media, not me.What could be wrong with making money by tearing other people down? Why it's a perfectly acceptable trade for a man to make his life's work says I!
I think it was restoring it to its proper original blatant role.
But then I also argue we should go back to having the candidates rolling out the barrels of liquor on election day and voting if we want.
Hey, take it up with hundreds of years of media, not me.
Guess we'll never see the whitey tape.
I think it was restoring it to its proper original blatant role.
I don't see anybody actively celebrating his death, merely pointing out that he was a scummy character, which he was. I don't think that entails calling people "scum".
For me, I didn't like him, so I don't give a damn about his death but I don't think it's a good thing considering the family he left behind and I hope the best for them.
I questioned the notion of a "proper discourse" and if you want to consider that a defense, then I agree.If you're not going to make an effort to defend it, why did you even bother disagreeing in the first place.
An objective press is impossible. A "truly free" press looks like Breitbart.Another way of saying this would be that he helped set our system of journalism back by at least several decades, reneging on the promise of a truly free and objective press from the mid-to-late 20th century.
You don't have to not like him, but for a 43 year old successful guy to just die out of the blue like this is sad, no matter who it is. Frankly I can't stand a character like a Chris Matthews, but would I feel sadness that he died way before his time? Absolutely. And he's not a scummy character, you just think he is because he's opposite of you politically.
And here comes the false equivalency train, right on time!
CHOO CHOO!
No, it's not. His "success" was founded upon deception and lies, and his main contribution was to significantly alter our political discourse for the worse.You don't have to not like him, but for a 43 year old successful guy to just die out of the blue like this is sad, no matter who it is.
Sad for his family, but this is good news for our politics. The man was a cancer on the system.
I'm sure Shirley Sherrod isn't losing sleep over this.
And here comes the false equivalency train, right on time!
CHOO CHOO!
People don't hate him for his beliefs. They hate him for his blatant misrepresentation of the truth.I am hesitant to call him a cancer. I think all opinions, especially in our US American culture, deserve their own say. And love it or hate it, he had a lot of people that agreed with him, so he served them as a legitimate mouthpiece for their ideals and beliefs.
I got a one month ban because when Ted Kennedy died I said that even though I wasn't happy that he had died, that he wasn't anywhere near the saint he was made out to be. People here are being far more terrible and they won't even get a 10 second ban.
Of course it boils down to politics and opinion. Stop acting like it doesn't.
So I take it you don't like Michael Moore then?People don't hate him for his beliefs. They hate him for his blatant misrepresentation of the truth.
Everyone who worked at ACORN lost their job over lies publicized by him. Shirley Sherrod had to resign in shame over lies publicized by him.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion - but don't edit some footage to make it seem like it says something it doesn't and cause people to lose their jobs.
But that's the best part. They fucked that up so much Breitbart won.I'm sure Shirley Sherrod isn't losing sleep over this.
And he's not a scummy character, you just think he is because he's opposite of you politically.
You don't have to not like him, but for a 43 year old successful guy to just die out of the blue like this is sad, no matter who it is. Frankly I can't stand a character like a Chris Matthews, but would I feel sadness that he died way before his time? Absolutely. And he's not a scummy character, you just think he is because he's opposite of you politically.
So I take it you don't like Michael Moore then?
So I take it you don't like Michael Moore then?
The best thing that could possibly happen to his children was to have this horrible human being removed from their life.
...and this is regardless of his politics. He was absolutely detestable.
So I take it you don't like Michael Moore then?
The best thing that could possibly happen to his children was to have this horrible human being removed from their life.
...and this is regardless of his politics. He was absolutely detestable.
The best thing that could possibly happen to his children was to have this horrible human being removed from their life.
...and this is regardless of his politics. He was absolutely detestable.
Do even progressives like Chris Matthews?WTF how could you NOT like Chris Matthews. I lean conservative and love him. He just as such an overflowing passion and love for politics and political history in general that it's contagious.
I hate to pry, but could you go more into depth? I'm honestly curious about the situation. I also really detested Breitbart.Wrong. As someone who had to deal with Briebart's lies personally, I can say with certainty that he is a "scummy character".
You are sailing into dangerous territories, my friend. And by dangerous I mean potentially ban worthy.The best thing that could possibly happen to his children was to have this horrible human being removed from their life.
...and this is regardless of his politics. He was absolutely detestable.
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Do even progressives like Chris Matthews?
I thought he was the guy EVERYONE could agree to dislike.
Show me one situation where Michael Moore edited footage to turn something into an outright lie and caused someone to lose their funding and/or job over it.
Michael Moore plays with the truth with deceptive editing. I wouldn't say he doesn't. Brietbart takes it one step further and creates his own truth. Or, more appropriately, gives a soapbox to those who create their own truth.
I hate Moore also.
You have people here who're like "He's an awful human being because he's a conservative and advocates for conservative causes and exposes liberals, so I don't give a crap that he died" and then try to cover it up by saying they care about his family. I just think its offensive. These threads about the deaths of conservatives always gets down in the gutter really fast.
Do even progressives like Chris Matthews?
I thought he was the guy EVERYONE could agree to dislike.
I've just assumed Hardball is still on the air because someone at MSNBC hates us. Hates all of us. In the world. Forever.