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[ghostofsparta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QBlYdXMNLc

new boot animation > old one but the nexus one's is still the coolest

I wonder why they got rid of the ics animations. Maybe they slowed things down? Bummer for me though, I loved them.

I don't think offline maps actually works ?

I've set the entire map of brooklyn to offline and I still can't get simple driving directions ?

in airplane mode ?

Is that something it's supposed to do?

I thought it was just a map and you'd have to figure the direction out yourself.

 

[Futureman]

if you put 4.1 on a the emulator and set screen res to a 10" tablet size, does the notification bar work the same way as on the Nexus 7, or does it revert to ICS tablet notification?

 

[kehs]

Well, sure, but improved voice input + improved search = improved voice search. It's silly to suggest otherwise.

And I'm not having trouble understanding the comparisons between the new voice search and Siri. Of course not, that's a very understandable comparison to make. I rather think it's you (and many others) who are having trouble understanding that Now is this:

...and not this:

Do you not understand that Now cards are just preset search inputs with a a dynamic element?

If they decided to make a definition card based on current city names, that definition search result could be filed as a card inside of the Now section.

 

[rozay]

People have been saying that they lose root. That and wifi issues, I think I'll hold off a bit.

No wifi issues on the rom manager version, dunno about root.

Which animations aer you referring to, ghostofsparta?

 

[RoadHazard]

Do you not understand that Now cards are just preset search inputs with a a dynamic element?

If they decided to make a definition card based on current city names, that definition search result could be filed as a card inside of the Now section.

Of course I do. But people are saying that "Now is Google's new intelligent voice search", and I'm saying that isn't true. I'm saying that Now and voice search are two different interfaces/methods/whatever for getting to search results (one giving you automatic/predetermined results and the other results based on your manual query in a Siri-eque way). That is all. Do you not agree?

 

[ghostofsparta]

No wifi issues on the rom manager version, dunno about root.

Which animations aer you referring to, ghostofsparta?

The animations when opening and closing an app. I like to call them "elastic" animations because it looks like the app is stretched into display.

Now they are the boring zooming out animation.

 

[teiresias]

I don't think offline maps actually works ?

I've set the entire map of brooklyn to offline and I still can't get simple driving directions ?

in airplane mode ?

The routing still requires a connection, having the maps offline though, just means that if you enter into an area with no connection you won't lose the map. At least, that's how I understand it.

 

[yogloo]

If app encryption defeats piracy, sales of the jellybean devices will plummet in developing countries.

 

[saunderez]

If app encryption defeats piracy, sales of the jellybean devices will plummet in developing countries.

Which is something Google doesn't care about since most of these countries use unofficial marketplaces and don't even have Google as the default search engine.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Yeah, considering the Android user base quadrupled in the last year alone, I doubt Google is worried about some dirty pirates.

 

[dabig2]

You really do have to get "in the zone." However Eclipse and the emulator are so slow it's hard to do that.

I pretty much ignore the emulator these days. I just hook up my phone and tablet proper to my computer and test my applications on the device itself

 

[ThatObviousUser]

I pretty much ignore the emulator these days. I just hook up my phone and tablet proper to my computer and test my applications on the device itself

Yeah, seems to be the best route of development.

 

[yogloo]

Which is something Google doesn't care about since most of these countries use unofficial marketplaces and don't even have Google as the default search engine.

They do? I am not aware of that actually. I thought most of them have the play market but noone is using it and buying disc full of apks.

 

[RoadHazard]

If app encryption defeats piracy, sales of the jellybean devices will plummet in developing countries.

Maybe, but wasn't it the case that an app developed with encryption enabled won't work at all on devices running anything < 4.1? Can't see many developers in a hurry to do that even if it does eliminate piracy. A lot of piracy + decent sales is surely preferable to no piracy + bad sales (due to only JB devices being able to buy the app).

 

[saunderez]

They do? I am not aware of that actually. I thought most of them have the play market but noone is using it and buying disc full of apks.

I've seen clones of Google's market that link to .apk files. Piracy could not be easier. And most phones sold in China come with these market clones and have default search set to Baidu. Google achieves nothing in this situation except a +1 for Android marketshare.

 

[SirChained]

If app encryption defeats piracy, sales of the jellybean devices will plummet in developing countries.

Piracy in developing countries tend to be limited to physical media. eg. pirated DVDs selling right outside of a movie theater. I don't really see people selling microSD cards with pirated content on the street...

 

[rozay]

Piracy in developing countries tend to be limited to physical media. eg. pirated DVDs selling right outside of a movie theater. I don't really see people selling microSD cards with pirated content on the street...

there's a big market for the media you describe, but you underestimate how many have internet access and how big the piracy circles are on both iOS and android.

 

[Darkener2]

MX Player isn't supported on 4.1 I guess I have to watch video with Zplayer for the time being.

 

[zbeeb]

Any news on whether TV/Magazines are US only or not?

 

[Izick]

Not sure if this the proper place to ask, but how is Chrome on Android? Does it share parity with Windows/Mac/Linux Chrome, as in can you install extensions and all that good stuff?

 

[Truth101]

Nice! Already ported to the Iconia just got to wait for the sound and wifi to get up and running.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Not sure if this the proper place to ask, but how is Chrome on Android? Does it share parity with Windows/Mac/Linux Chrome, as in can you install extensions and all that good stuff?

Unfortunately not. Pretty lame. It's in the works though, supposedly.

 

[Izick]

Unfortunately not. Pretty lame. It's in the works though, supposedly.

How is it speed wise?

 

[ThatObviousUser]

How is it speed wise?

It's great for me. I've heard complaints though, mainly Nexus S users.

I like the sync feature and cards UI though, so it's hard for me to switch away. It also renders my own sites like they're fricking supposed to be.

 

[Izick]

It's great for me. I've heard complaints though, mainly Nexus S users.

I like the sync feature and cards UI though, so it's hard for me to switch away. It also renders my own sites like they're fricking supposed to be.

The Chrome conference is tomorrow, isn't it?, so maybe we'll get to see some big announcements there.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

The Chrome conference is tomorrow, isn't it?, so maybe we'll get to see some big announcements there.

Definitely for the desktop side. Chrome for Android was announced as stable and the default for 4.1 today though, so maybe that's all we'll get on it for now.

 

[Izick]

Definitely for the desktop side. Chrome for Android was announced as stable and the default for 4.1 today though, so maybe that's all we'll get on it for now.

Ooh, well at least now I'm excited for desktop Chrome!

 

[rozay]

rejoice, the latency on audio has been reduced from 100ms to roughly 10-12ms on the galaxy nexus running 4.1.

 

[The Faceless Master]

I don't think offline maps actually works ?

I've set the entire map of brooklyn to offline and I still can't get simple driving directions ?

in airplane mode ?

pretty sure it's just caching the map data so if you already had directions and you lost signal, you could still navigate.

if you want an offline navigation suite, try NavFree

 

[ThatObviousUser]

rejoice, the latency on audio has been reduced from 100ms to roughly 10-12ms on the galaxy nexus running 4.1.

REJOICE

 

[The Faceless Master]

Of course I do. But people are saying that "Now is Google's new intelligent voice search", and I'm saying that isn't true. I'm saying that Now and voice search are two different interfaces/methods/whatever for getting to search results (one giving you automatic/predetermined results and the other results based on your manual query in a Siri-eque way). That is all. Do you not agree?

what you're saying is technically true, but confusing to most people on paper... kind of like trying to explain the Snapdragon S4 architecture... it's easier to just say it the incorrect way so people understand it better.

 

[Why would you do that?]

rejoice, the latency on audio has been reduced from 100ms to roughly 10-12ms on the galaxy nexus running 4.1.

Finally.

Now I want some good rhythm games!

 

[DarkFlow]

Well I have 4.1 on my nexus now Woohoo!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737849

get at it best galaxy GSM owners.

 

[rozay]

Finally.

Now I want some good rhythm games!

I think it needs to go down a little more still, but any sign of progress is good.

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

Best Nexus on Verizon is getting this, right? I'm hyyyyyyyyyyype

 

[rozay]

Best Nexus on Verizon is getting this, right? I'm hyyyyyyyyyyype

deflate that hype unless you're interested in flashing it to your phone, in which case a preview version is out now

 

[Zombie James]

Well I have 4.1 on my nexus now Woohoo!



http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737849

get at it best galaxy GSM owners.

How noticeable are the performance improvements?

 

[Why would you do that?]

I think it needs to go down a little more still, but any sign of progress is good.

Ideally, you're right, but 12 ms isn't even one frame under 60 fps, so it shouldn't really be a problem, especially compared to the atrocious > 6 frames of lag.

 

[DarkFlow]

How noticeable are the performance improvements?

Well everything opens nice and smooth so far. Google Now set a alarm for me, told me the weather, found sport scores and opened web pages.

 

[Toki767]

Well everything opens nice and smooth so far. Google Now set a alarm for me, told me the weather, found sport scores and opened web pages.

Wait, so the voice search can actually set alarms? Can it also add reminders to calendar?

 

[DarkFlow]

Wait, so the voice search can actually set alarms? Can it also add reminders to calendar?

I just tried that, so far no. It won't even open the calendar if I tell it too. It does have cards for your calendar in the Google now app, but so far it won't add any if you tell it. Anything else you want me to try?

 

[Sh1ner]

Any news on Jellybean for Nexus S?

 

[panda21]

is google now in the sdk version? really want to get that. if it works for transport outside the US it will be godly.

with this update and the rumored multiple nexus phones i'm definitely sticking with android

 

[JonnyBrad]

Well everything opens nice and smooth so far. Google Now set a alarm for me, told me the weather, found sport scores and opened web pages.

Does it feel much different in terms of smoothness than ICS? Ie like butter?

 

[reKon]

Wait, so the voice search can actually set alarms? Can it also add reminders to calendar?

Well you've been able to set alarms on android for a while now..

 

[Good Job Bob]

How noticeable are the performance improvements?

Does it feel much different in terms of smoothness than ICS? Ie like butter?

Via Anandtech:

The result of these improvements is that the Galaxy Nexus feels like a different device to me with Android 4.1. It isn't huge, but the trouble spots that used to annoy the heck out of me with Galaxy Nexus and 4.0.4 are now largely smoothed over. That's not to say it's perfect, but it's clear Google has invested time (finally) into mitigating some of Android's lingering UI choppiness.

but:

I still feel like the SGX 540 running at non-max clocks inside the Galaxy Nexus' OMAP4460 is overburdened, but with the right SoC Android 4.1 is going to scream.

The GN @ $350 is tempting, but I think I'll wait until Fall for a new Nexus device with much more competent hardware.

 

[DarkFlow]

Does it feel much different in terms of smoothness than ICS? Ie like butter?

It seems faster, but that could be the placebo effect right now. It's not much different then ICS as far as I can tell other then Google Now.

Edit: Here are some screen caps of Google now.

You hold the home button to get this to pop up and you hit the Google button to get in it. You can also just push the Mic in the search bar to start it.

It read this out loud to me and told me who won lol.

New status bar seems more sleek also.

 

[beje]

I can't wait until the moment somebody manages to port it to any Xperia phone from 2011. Once it's in one of them, it takes the ROM cookers less than a week to make it work in the rest as most of them share the same architecture.

Edit: one of the best devs for my phone (Xperia Mini Pro) confirmed he's is already working on it so if there are not many changes in libraries I might get an usable update in a couple of weeks

 

[Why would you do that?]

I just realized something... All Android releases have been named in alphabetical order. Starting from Apple Pie, then Bananna Bread, Cupcake, Doughnut, Eclair... down to Ice Cream Sandwich and Jellybean.

That's... interesting... It'll also help me remember each Android version's name.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

I just realized something... All Android releases have been named in alphabetical order. Starting from Apple Pie, then Bananna Bread, Cupcake, Doughnut, Eclair... down to Ice Cream Sandwich and Jellybean.

That's... interesting... It'll also help me remember each Android version's name.

Uhh yeah, that's the whole reason they're called that.

Also, the A and B names were never made public. As far as we know they started calling them sweets with Cupcake.