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hermit7 said:
I used to be a big Phandroid guy but the guy who runs it has always, hrm, acted immature in his posts. At least for my tastes.
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I used to be a big Phandroid guy but the guy who runs it has always, hrm, acted immature in his posts. At least for my tastes.
Raistlin said:Holy crap, Hummingbird's GPU (Galaxy S) shits all over Snapdragon
droiddog.com news article
I can see why Qualcomm is trying to get out the MSM8260 and MSM8660 chipsets as fast as possible. It'll be interesting to see how their updated GPU's compare to Hummingbird.
your link doesn't work raistlin. I'm guessing you meant this link:
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/07/hummingbird-processor-shows-off-on-video/
Nerevar said:
Anyone?
With the current amoled technology, the average power use isn't that much different than an lcd. Even though it doesn't need a back light, it does take more power to produce certain colors than others. Ars technica had an article with tests of this. It's not surprising that red needed less power since red gas the lowest frequency anyway.tokkun said:
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Raistlin said:Holy crap, Hummingbird's GPU (Galaxy S) shits all over Snapdragon
droiddog.com news article
I can see why Qualcomm is trying to get out the MSM8260 and MSM8660 chipsets as fast as possible. It'll be interesting to see how their updated GPU's compare to Hummingbird.
New processor beats processor thats been out on the market for the past 6 months. Film at 11.
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SimleuqiR said:
Starring Emmanuelle Chriqui
Nerevar said:
Oops sorry, fixed it in the original post. The direct YouTube link was working though (the 'shits all over' part
)Jamesfrom818 said:
Actually ... 3x the performance, of the top-of-the-line processor, in 6 months, is a bit unusual.
Damn we're really starting to get desensitized to tech advancements :lol
Vyse The Legend
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According to Engadget, T-Mobile is launching their first 21+ Mbps HSPA device in September and a second one in November. This lines up nicely with the leaked road map I posted earlier.
In other words, this device is the HTC Vanguard, which Engadget believes is the HTC Vision.
In other words, this device is the HTC Vanguard, which Engadget believes is the HTC Vision.
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subrock said:
I don't think so, all Verizon phones are CDMA and AFAIK there are only GSM carriers in Canada (and the rest of the world, for that matter.)
jonnybryce
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Vyse The Legend said:
I don't understand. 21mbs is so fucking fast. Who the hell cares if it's technically 4G or not? That's lightning.
jonnybryce said:
Yep. Actually, no one really has 4G currently. What Sprint has, and Verizon and AT&T will do later, is no more 4G than HSPA+. This of course makes AT&T complaints over T-Mobile PR all the more delicious.
Funnier still, HSPA+ is actually faster than Sprint's '4G' in real-world performance right now :lol And Ericsson has been demoing some multi-carrier tech that could push HSPA+'s theoretical download speed up to 42 and even 56mbps.
It's for this reason that I'm going with T-Mobile on my next phone.
IonicSnake
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Got the Xperia X10 yesterday and was wondering if anyone knows if the screen is as scratch resistant as the one on the iPod/iPhone. Loving this phone by the way. 
gimmmick
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Speaking of processors, what is next up with qualcomm and their successor to snapdragon? HTC is my preferred manufacture of phones, and thery seem to only their chips on their phones as of late. The need for upgrading my nexus one isn't their, but I do always have that inch every 6 months :lol Realsticly, my next purchase with probably be around when gingerbread releases, that or the new line up of hardware for android. (has to be something faster than the processor the droid X is rocking).
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I've not read every post in this thread, though I seen a few Dell Streak mentions.
I was able to play with the Streak for a few hours and it was very nice, I'm just looking for general impressions of day to day use. I seem to recall having issues transferring files across Bluetooth. And for the life of me I couldn't get Google Mail set up, despite having an existing account.
I was able to play with the Streak for a few hours and it was very nice, I'm just looking for general impressions of day to day use. I seem to recall having issues transferring files across Bluetooth. And for the life of me I couldn't get Google Mail set up, despite having an existing account.
One week with the Dell Streak
It's been about one week since I received my Streak, so I'll give some more detailed impressions, as well as my "review"
Performance - as far as speed goes, the Streak does live up to it's name. Transitions are smooth, apps close and open with great speed, and there's little to no chugging. The only problem I have here is the 30 fps limit. This may not be such a big deal to others (and I suspect it isn't) but a retired PC gamer as myself does notice frame rate, and I would have loved it to be 60 like the Incredible or the N1 (with the right ROM). I suspect it has something to do with Android 1.6, but since it's going to be upgraded, it isn't anything to shun the device for.
Build Quality - Like a rock. If you need a self defense tool, and the Streak is the closest thing nearby, you'd probably be ok. The screen is strong, and the body is tight, and well designed. Ignoring sexual innuendos, you could probably drop this thing a couple of times and not worry, since it's well built.
Call Quality - Call quality seems to be a mixed bag. With the device itself, calls are clear and sharp, but with a bluetooth headset, it becomes absolute shit. It could be attributed to the bluetooth headset, but without another one, I can't be sure. Conclusively, it's fine if you keep short conversations. If you need a bluetooth headset, it's best to try out multiple ones.
Camera - Camera is another mixed bag. Pics during the day are vivid, thanks to Dell jacking the saturation up to 350% or something. However, pics at night suffer badly, even though a dual-flash is incorporated. The flash is weak, and does a poor job of highlighting dark subjects. See for yourself:
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Verdict: If you'd like something different, I'd certainly go for the Dell Streak. It's biggest strength lies in it's versatility -- it really is like having a laptop in your pocket that can make calls. Google Navigation is amazing, speed is good, and with swipe or better keyboard, typing is a
dream. Just be warned, the weight and size will probably put you off, as it did with others who saw me with the device. But when they used it, they loved it.
that wasn't intentional
It's been about one week since I received my Streak, so I'll give some more detailed impressions, as well as my "review"
Performance - as far as speed goes, the Streak does live up to it's name. Transitions are smooth, apps close and open with great speed, and there's little to no chugging. The only problem I have here is the 30 fps limit. This may not be such a big deal to others (and I suspect it isn't) but a retired PC gamer as myself does notice frame rate, and I would have loved it to be 60 like the Incredible or the N1 (with the right ROM). I suspect it has something to do with Android 1.6, but since it's going to be upgraded, it isn't anything to shun the device for.
Build Quality - Like a rock. If you need a self defense tool, and the Streak is the closest thing nearby, you'd probably be ok. The screen is strong, and the body is tight, and well designed. Ignoring sexual innuendos, you could probably drop this thing a couple of times and not worry, since it's well built.
Call Quality - Call quality seems to be a mixed bag. With the device itself, calls are clear and sharp, but with a bluetooth headset, it becomes absolute shit. It could be attributed to the bluetooth headset, but without another one, I can't be sure. Conclusively, it's fine if you keep short conversations. If you need a bluetooth headset, it's best to try out multiple ones.
Camera - Camera is another mixed bag. Pics during the day are vivid, thanks to Dell jacking the saturation up to 350% or something. However, pics at night suffer badly, even though a dual-flash is incorporated. The flash is weak, and does a poor job of highlighting dark subjects. See for yourself:
At Day:
Verdict: If you'd like something different, I'd certainly go for the Dell Streak. It's biggest strength lies in it's versatility -- it really is like having a laptop in your pocket that can make calls. Google Navigation is amazing, speed is good, and with swipe or better keyboard, typing is a
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Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S for AT&T) releasing July 18th for $199 with no rebate.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/08/samsung-captivate-coming-to-atandt-on-july-18-for-200/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/08/samsung-captivate-coming-to-atandt-on-july-18-for-200/
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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Dell Streak is too big for my taste. 4inch is max (maybe 4.2/3)
beje said:
Quoting myself as I got no response. Currently, I'm reaching about 200MB monthly with my symbian handset, but it's a completely different approach. I know Nokia is not so popular in the states so I'll give you some info: with symbian, every app is in its own "sandbox" and you have complete control on which apps are currently open, how do they access to the net and when can they do it. With Android you have... CHAOS. The only concept of having to download a third party app to be able to kill any task because they stay in the background eating megabytes by default (sometimes without an option to "exit") just baffles me... so I wanted to know if, in the end, data usage ends up being much higher or not.
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I don't know if it was confirmed or dispelled, but there was that rumor about the Galaxy S being $349 off contract on T-Mo. Now AT&T has apparently said it's $349 off contract for them on their FB page.
Samsung seems to want to take over the nation with this phone, so if they were willing to cut down the typical huge profit margin for phones and work with carriers to off it for $349 off contract...they're going to be very successful with this. I hated on the UI hard at first, I've read some shockingly positive stuff about it, gotten a little used to it and appreciate some of it's ideas (though some of it is just nasty iClone) but even I would pick it up on Verizon for $349.
Hot, looks like Galaxy S meets the Windows 7 prototype...or really, meets a rectangle.
Samsung seems to want to take over the nation with this phone, so if they were willing to cut down the typical huge profit margin for phones and work with carriers to off it for $349 off contract...they're going to be very successful with this. I hated on the UI hard at first, I've read some shockingly positive stuff about it, gotten a little used to it and appreciate some of it's ideas (though some of it is just nasty iClone) but even I would pick it up on Verizon for $349.
b.e.r.g said:
Hot, looks like Galaxy S meets the Windows 7 prototype...or really, meets a rectangle.
beje said:
For myself, I've used about 350 MBs so far this month. I think my cycle ends in a few days. I rarely stream audio or video (have done it maybe once, or twice, ten songs and a couple of youtube videos at most), so most of that is from download apps from the market and web browsing. As far as its comparison to sybian and all of that stuff, I can't really help.
Edit: After rereading your post, more details about my usage:
I tend to use both Google Talk and some IM client (I'm waiting for Beejive now, but I usually use Meebo), and I have Gmail with the push notification. I occassionally used a Twitter client, but it's very rare. Most of my data usage comes from internet browsing.
Anyway, as far as all of that is concerned, phantom data usage is not really as uncontrolled as it may seem. Only the most obvious apps are constantly using data in the background, and we would need to know more about your usage and what you plan to do with your phone before we could offer apps and tips about what to do. But for my personal uses, the majority of the apps I use don't just sit there eating MBs of data transfer (I have unlimited via Sprint though, so it wouldn't even matter if they did for me). Most hibernate as a process, and the only obvious grevious offenders are going to be ones that are obviously pushing data to you constantly (and if you are very dependant on that kind of application/functionality, you should have a higher data plan to go with it).
Will the at&t captivate follow the same data plans at the iphone? I am looking through features I can add to my family plan and I see features such as: unlimited data: $15.00, family plan unlimited (if you have family unlimited texting): $10.00. Is it possible to use one of those plans with the Captivate?
Edit: Nevermind. I'm assuming it will be classified as a smart phone. Ah well.
Edit: Nevermind. I'm assuming it will be classified as a smart phone. Ah well.
Husker86 said:
The issue is they don't have any HSPA+ phones yet, so current phones are inherently capped at 7.2mbps max. That said, all these numbers are theoretical.
However, there are PC cards out, and that's what they compared.
http://www.techautos.com/2010/06/12/t-mobile-hspa-beats-sprint-4g-wimax-in-speed-test/
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=376
Jamesfrom818
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Is it just me or is it incredibly strange to see the back button anywhere else other than the far left? That seems like the most natural place to put it.
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