goldenpp72
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Android Hardware Thread - 2010 Edition
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Alright guys, this is sort of Android related, I'm going to switch to Wind tomorrow and there are 3 phones I'm looking at, one of which is an android phone. I'm probably going to get an ipod touch when the new line comes out so I can use that for apps/games etc. Might go for the one in the middle, although there is a touch screen one for the same price. And the Android is tempting but it's an extra $90.
http://www2.windmobile.ca/en/Pages/rebates.aspx
http://www2.windmobile.ca/en/Pages/rebates.aspx
Naw, that costs close to $500, I'm not willing to spend that much on a phone. I think I may spring for one of the $50 ones. They play MP3s and support a MicroSD slot so that's good. The Android is tempting but apparently it's the shittiest Android phone to date.SRG01 said:
edit: wait, your posting from the Nokia 5230? Does it have a full HTML browser? That's appealing.
prodystopian
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According to the Android Dev blog, the Nexus One is too awesome.
Also, HTC, where is:
1. My Froyo
2. Where is it.
Also, HTC, where is:
1. My Froyo
2. Where is it.
Jazzy Network
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Droid 1Futureman said:
whitehawk said:
The on-board browser on the 5230 is full HTML and s60 has Flash Lite. You could always download Opera 10, like I did. However, Opera 10 experiences occasional freezing on s60 platforms at the moment and we've been waiting for a fix since forever.
Personally, I would get the Huawei U8100 if you're not going to be watching videos. I thought the lack of WiFi on the 5230 really hurts. That, and tethering really sucks on the 5230, requiring both Ovi Suite and drivers. AFAIK, even the low-end Huawei phone doesn't require special software to tether; it installs the necessary drivers from first hot-plug.
Manmademan
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Jazzy Network said:
The samsung moment does also. Note that this made no difference in terms of how fast it got updates versus non-stock handsets on the same network.
Jazzy Network
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I've had better service with Tmobile than I haf with AT&T. I don't mind them. Wish I could get this phone.
J Tourettes
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SimleuqiR said:
G2 looks like a Nexus One with a slide out keyboard.
I think the phone is with Google. Hopefully that means stock Android.
I miss my android case that came with the N1. I lost it when I was drunk
Jamesfrom818
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J Tourettes said:I miss my android case that came with the N1. I lost it when I was drunk
I lost mine somewhere in my room and its nowhere to be found. I've cleaned it several times since losing it and it never turned up. I didn't really use it though since the N1 fits into the little pocket just above the right pocket on all of my jeans.
Jamesfrom818
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I read that you can just contact HTC and they'll send one over to you.
JonathanEx
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That case reminds me that the Android mascot is awesome and I want more random merch with him on it.
Randy Lanzarote
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Hello Galaxy S owners, updates for you all:
-Someone asked why a phone with 512mb only had around 350mb that was useable. At first it was thought that HIMEM had not been enabled on the SGS, so the phone couldn't 'see' the whole 512mb. Well that isn't true, HIMEM is enabled but the reason for the 130mb~ of inactive memory is because Samsung have set aside that portion of memory to be used as a ram disk.
-Another reason for the lag is that Samsung are using the internal SD, as opposed to the NAND, for data storage. With a decent file system this might not be too much of a problem on its own, the internal sd is pretty quick on the read/writes, but coupled with the file system issues it only makes matters worse.
-The reason for the lag on the phones is the file system, as previously mentioned. The file system they are using (RFS) does not allow reads from the memory whilst it is writing, hence why you'll find that much of the lag occurs when opening/closing/installing apps. When an app is shutdown in the background by the task manager that takes priority over everything else in the system, and you have to wait for the program to write its data to disk and close before you can do anything else. For some reason, despite Google recommeding YAFFS2 for Android file systems to developers, Samsung decided to go and use their own file system.....
It should be noted the lag issues are not as prevalent in the Epic, they're using the NAND for data storage on that phone, and although the file system is still RFS, the speed increase gained from using the faster NAND is overcoming the lag (well, mostly)
Someone over at XDA is working on an app that will reformat the internal NAND to EXT4 as opposed to RFS which should improve things a lot. Course, I'd prefer it if Samsung addressed these issues in one of their own firmware updates, as opposed to the modding community fixing their problems.
-Someone asked why a phone with 512mb only had around 350mb that was useable. At first it was thought that HIMEM had not been enabled on the SGS, so the phone couldn't 'see' the whole 512mb. Well that isn't true, HIMEM is enabled but the reason for the 130mb~ of inactive memory is because Samsung have set aside that portion of memory to be used as a ram disk.
-Another reason for the lag is that Samsung are using the internal SD, as opposed to the NAND, for data storage. With a decent file system this might not be too much of a problem on its own, the internal sd is pretty quick on the read/writes, but coupled with the file system issues it only makes matters worse.
-The reason for the lag on the phones is the file system, as previously mentioned. The file system they are using (RFS) does not allow reads from the memory whilst it is writing, hence why you'll find that much of the lag occurs when opening/closing/installing apps. When an app is shutdown in the background by the task manager that takes priority over everything else in the system, and you have to wait for the program to write its data to disk and close before you can do anything else. For some reason, despite Google recommeding YAFFS2 for Android file systems to developers, Samsung decided to go and use their own file system.....
It should be noted the lag issues are not as prevalent in the Epic, they're using the NAND for data storage on that phone, and although the file system is still RFS, the speed increase gained from using the faster NAND is overcoming the lag (well, mostly)
Someone over at XDA is working on an app that will reformat the internal NAND to EXT4 as opposed to RFS which should improve things a lot. Course, I'd prefer it if Samsung addressed these issues in one of their own firmware updates, as opposed to the modding community fixing their problems.
Galaxy Tab teser video
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/24/samsung-galaxy-tab-gets-official-teaser-video/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/24/samsung-galaxy-tab-gets-official-teaser-video/
J Tourettes
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SimleuqiR said:
Adamm said:Mine is gradually falling apart, the foam is seperating from the material (if that makes sense)
I need a new case
I bought the official HTC leather pouch as a replacement but managed to lose that after a week as well. What a prick :lol
MarkMclovin
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SimleuqiR said:
Could really do with a case like that for the Hero.
brotkasten
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ana said:
It's too small for me and has the wrong format. 16:9/16:10 is not a good aspect ratio for tablets. At least it's not 800x480.
Miggytronz
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MarkMclovin said:
shit what case is that. Id love one for my EVO.
wind_steaker
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so do we think Android is a good platform for tablets like the Galaxy Tab, or should we wait for Chrome OS tablets?
wind_steaker said:
gingerbread will be better, not sure how 2.2 is running it considering it isn't supposed to scale to the higher res.
I'd still like to see ChromeOS running on something, its actually shaping up to be interesting. Android is best if they want to launch now to try to take some mind share away from ipad since it has a flushed out market and support
crazy monkey
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whitehawk said:
you mean 15 right? for 100 minutes? I have 5230 love it
jonnybryce
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I think Android will be great for tablets as it's powerful, versatile and we know it as an OS. You know you're getting cloud sync, Google functions like no other, multitasking, etc. I think it will do great on a tablet and Samsung has clearly made changes to the apps from mail to everything else they've shown to take advantage of the screen real estate but it still comes off as clearly Apple copying.
I'm more excited for official Android-for-tablets or what serious manufacturers and devices like the Adam or Moto/HTC will whip up. A unique UI for tablets and not just what we know and see from stock or the Galaxy's Touch Wiz made big for a tablet.
The Tab looks nice and the UI seems good but Samsung is playing a "me-too" game and I'm not sure they'll be the best bet when it comes to Android tablets. The front cam doesn't hurt though. If it's priced cheaper than the Adam then I'm listening.
edit: fuck it, you're right. That top right corner of icons, my god. They're embarrassing.
I'm more excited for official Android-for-tablets or what serious manufacturers and devices like the Adam or Moto/HTC will whip up. A unique UI for tablets and not just what we know and see from stock or the Galaxy's Touch Wiz made big for a tablet.
The Tab looks nice and the UI seems good but Samsung is playing a "me-too" game and I'm not sure they'll be the best bet when it comes to Android tablets. The front cam doesn't hurt though. If it's priced cheaper than the Adam then I'm listening.
giga said:
edit: fuck it, you're right. That top right corner of icons, my god. They're embarrassing.
wandering goat
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For any Canadians in this thread: I'm planning on getting my first smartphone sometime soon to use as my main phone (was with Rogers pay-as-you-go up 'til now). From reading up, Android sounds like what I want. I'm all about customization and some of the stuff you can do with them sounds great. Now, I'm really liking what the HTC Desire from Telus offers, but I'm kind of iffy on whether Telus' reception is up-to-notch and I could probably get my pay-as-you-go balance as a credit with Rogers (have about $60 on it now). So, I have two questions:
- Any comparable Androids with Rogers, or coming in the near future? I'm not too hot about the upcoming Galaxy S from them based on reviews in comparison to the Desire (in terms of some small issues, no flash, and their skin).
- (Kind of OT) but can anyone comment on Telus' quality as a carrier (mostly reception since I hear it bad mouthed a lot)? I'm in Woodstock ON but going to move to who-knows-where after my company wraps up in November, so I don't have any particular locations to research.
- I like their Student 55 plan (which I would otherwise want Rogers to match), does this sound like a good plan for a first time buyer without any access to retention deals or can I score better? Is 1GB enough for a phone like this if I don't get too crazy with it (damned 3 year contracts).
Sorry if there are any dedicated carrier/plan threads, but I couldn't find them.
- Any comparable Androids with Rogers, or coming in the near future? I'm not too hot about the upcoming Galaxy S from them based on reviews in comparison to the Desire (in terms of some small issues, no flash, and their skin).
- (Kind of OT) but can anyone comment on Telus' quality as a carrier (mostly reception since I hear it bad mouthed a lot)? I'm in Woodstock ON but going to move to who-knows-where after my company wraps up in November, so I don't have any particular locations to research.
- I like their Student 55 plan (which I would otherwise want Rogers to match), does this sound like a good plan for a first time buyer without any access to retention deals or can I score better? Is 1GB enough for a phone like this if I don't get too crazy with it (damned 3 year contracts).
Sorry if there are any dedicated carrier/plan threads, but I couldn't find them.
Kurashima said:
Why not Bell? The Galaxy S Vibrant is the better version between the two current Galaxy S phones. HTC Sense may be better than TouchWiz, although thats debatable, you can install a new launcher either way. However, the internals of the Galaxy S are quite a bit more powerful than the Desire. Not to mention the 4 inch super amoled screen is freaking gorgeous. The multitouch is true multitouch. Check out some youtube videos of the broken multitouch on the Desire/Nexus one. If you can get over no flash I guess. Coming from a Nexus one where the most use the flash got was to show off an flash light app, I don't miss it.
I still think the Desire is a very nice phone, its great to see these higher end Android phones here now.
nolookjones
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@Kurashima what part of canada are you in? rogers is good everywhere but atlantic canada and the prairies
im using an unlocked (virgin) htc legend on fido and really like the phone...its not ultra high end but very nice mid range model...
it is very amazing to see such new android phones coming out in canada...
im using an unlocked (virgin) htc legend on fido and really like the phone...its not ultra high end but very nice mid range model...
it is very amazing to see such new android phones coming out in canada...
PhoncipleBone
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Ugh, the desire to buy a phone is building stronger. I want to wait and see how much the R2 Droid 2 is though. And I am still on the fence between a Droid x and the Droid 2. The X has the screen of doom and the better camera, but the Droid 2 has a smaller form (but thicker) and a physical keyboard.
Mr Nightman
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That case that comes with the n1, anybody know one thats similar and would fit an htc incredible?
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