Dreams-Visions
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it really doesn't look that big. It's bigger than the iPhone 5, but all of these flagship smartphones are bigger than the iPhone 5. It looks to be about the same size as the SGS3, but I haven't compared the exact measurements.
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it really doesn't look that big. It's bigger than the iPhone 5, but all of these flagship smartphones are bigger than the iPhone 5. It looks to be about the same size as the SGS3, but I haven't compared the exact measurements.
Psychotext
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Not really going to do you any good on a mountain bike trail or when climbing. I mean you could take it... but fuck that.
I've got three cameras which cover pretty much everything.
Phone = Everywhere
Compact = Active trips
DSLR = Photo trips (I only take it to places like castles, wildlife parks etc where I know I'll take a ton of pictures)
So for me, I want every single device I use to take pictures that are as good as they can possibly be. I don't see why I should be limited to shit photos just because I can only fit my phone in my pack.
The 920 is big but not gigantic. It's 1-2mm wider and taller than the 900, and it's 1-2mm thinner than the 900. The 900 isn't gigantic, it's pretty comfortable to hold and use.
Are you saying that Windows Phone 8 as an OS is a "big question"? Because Windows Phone 7.5 as an OS is already pretty great, and everything we know about 8 so far seems to be addressing most of the biggest issues and adding a lot of new features too.
Dreams-Visions
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remember, most of the discussion about camera phone quality has been about night/low-light shooting. They're all pretty good during the day or with good lighting situations. It's for high ISO shots that they end up pretty shitty.
if you're mountain biking or climbing in the dark...well...I don't have any thoughts for you in the first place.
CrunchinJelly
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The Faceless Master
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iPhone 5 does surprisingly well vs .50 cal
pretty great according to reviewers, but not consumers or salespeople. when you've got phone sellers saying they wish Nokia phones ran Android so they could sell them, you have to wonder about what reviewers are thinking...
Gonna have to say IOS all the way. Yesterday i was taking a shit in the upstairs bathroom while using my ipad, turns out that there was no toilet paper and I started panicking. I was looking around frantically for anything that can be used as a substitute but there was nothing. I tried yelling but turns out my GF was outside. I sat there with my ipad and looking through the apps I saw it, my savior facetime. Facetimed my gf and had her bring me up some TP and everthing was right in the world, thank you ios.
Psychotext
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I do both of those things in the dark. Night riding especially is AWESOME.
The Faceless Master
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i did the same thing before. except i sent a SMS. and i didn't have an iPad.
Anton Sugar
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To anyone guffawing at taking pictures of friends while out at night, I can assure you that you're in the minority. Then again...
Why would this not be possible with any other competitor's devices?
Why would this not be possible with any other competitor's devices?
Kiraly
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It looks gigantic to me, probably due to the rectangular shape and the enormous coloured bezel.
The Faceless Master
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but we can already take late night pics with friends, they just won't be as good.To anyone guffawing at taking pictures of friends while out at night, I can assure you that you're in the minority. Then again...
but if we all had a Samsung Galaxy S® III with Share Shot™, we wouldn't even have to worry about sharing them later.
competitors don't have Facetime.
of course, if you and your SO have Fring, Tango, Google+, Qik, Skype, Google Talk, Voxer, WhatsApp... ok, fuck it, not gonna list a million things...
les papillons sexuels
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you couldn't send a text or phone her, you decided to let her stare at you on the shitter instead?
Thats kind of the point, i didn't have to put any effort into it since facetime is a native app and i don't have to install a additional program or set up an account, it was convienant and worked out great. I was being sarcastic that this is why IOS is superior but people really do take this phone war a little too seriously.
I had an ipad so no.
The Faceless Master
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pretty sure that some of the stuff i listed were also native apps.
Talkatone!
Anton Sugar
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It is shorter than the GS3, Note II, Note II, One X, and Nexus, but a bit wider than them all (Note II excluded). It is thicker than them all, though.
It's similar to a 900, which I use now and think is a great size. iPhone feels small to me, but everyone's different.
People who use Windows Phone, love Windows Phone. That's all that needs to be said about the quality of the actual OS. The OS isn't a "big question", it's the marketing and pervasiveness of that OS.
My last android phone didn't have those programs, and i would at least have to setup those accounts.
The Faceless Master
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people who use Web OS love Web OS
Do you mean for transit? Because the android gmaps app lets you choose to have fewer connections or less walking as well as the default.
Android has gtalk built in. Really good integration, actually.
Psychotext
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...and yet most people who use Android know it's sort of shit. Well, at least until Jelly Bean anyway.
No, I mean if you can't connect to the internet, you can't get a route between where you are now, and where you want to be. A pretty major problem if you want to use your phone as a satnav in rural areas.
les papillons sexuels
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I've yet to hear anyone complain about WP, anyone.
Instead of making illogical comparisons like this how about you just explain why you think Windows Phone as an OS is lacking?
Ah, fair enough.
Anton Sugar
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Google talk is native.
Dreams-Visions
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no, that's not all that needs to be said. it is good to know, however.
People that have bought into an OS/device tend to apologize for it, only being truly objective and honest months/years later. They often won't know what they're missing because they've never experienced anything else. In this same way, many Nintendo owners apologized for Nintendo's online services...but many hadn't experienced better to get used to a different level of expectation.
In reality, people who've bought Windows Phone to date have had a decidedly inferior 3rd party software (apps) and hardware (cases, car and receiver compatibility, sound docks, etc.) experience. The OS and core apps have been decidedly different and enjoyable in their own right, but neither computers nor smartphones experiences stop where the default apps end. The average iPhone owners has over 100 apps installed last I checked. The app stores matter.
What matters for many of us is what kind of experience those of us coming from solutions that may have had more diversity and support can expect if we come to WP8. What things will feel like steps up? What things will feel like clear steps down...and when will there be parity in those weaker areas (like 3rd party software)?
Also, what kind of OS update support can we expect for the 920? Or, how many iterations of WP can we expect? I know the 900 owners are being left in the dust IIRC with WP8. Will the 920 be able to run next year's WP OS update? Because the iPhone 5 will probably be up to date until late 2015 at least...and flagship Android phones get updates sooner or later.
So no, it's not just enough for owners to love what they have.
Do i have to set up an account?
No, It's just your google account.
Thickness and weight are the issues I have. But thickness is worth it for the camera sensor, weight they really need to work on though.
Are you one of the five people on the planet without a gmail account?
No. Its the same as your Google account.
Wait for the next Nexus phone.
Why wouldn't you have a Google account with android?
I have one but never saw an icon for gtalk.
It's almost as if brand perception and recognition matter more than the actual capabilities of the OS when it comes to sales!
The Faceless Master
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it's not that it has NO IRC, it's just that it doesn't have properly functioning IRC.
WM6 did it, i could pull out my old HTC phone and do it right now if i charge the battery.
If you had an older version of android it might not have been on there natively, it's really changed since I started using it in 2.1. Jelly bean does a good job at creating a more unified Google infrastructure without overwhelming the OS with it.
I used to think this way, but at this point, Samsung's unique new TouchWiz software features make it easily worthwhile imo. People who haven't used the phone often call them "gimmicky", but honestly, some of them are super useful.
The Faceless Master
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no, you can skip setting up a Google Account, unlike the iPad, where you're forced to set it up on first boot. so basically, on both you have to set it up, just one is by choice. well, i dunno, maybe that's changed in the latest iOS and you don't actually have to set it up?
Wait...IRC?
You really use IRC on your phone? Interesting. What do you do with it, exactly? I'm genuinely curious here.
IMO its very easy to make a phone with better spec than the Note 2. Note 2's spec is not "future proof" enough.
The Faceless Master
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it happens! i remember there was someone ... i think in the previous Android thread ... who wanted to know how to share their contacts with exchange but without using a Google account... or something like that...
Share shot might actually be useful for me since my whole family has S3s now.
It should be noted that NFC is a standard that is cross manufacturer and cross OS, though. It's up to the apps to support it. I use it all the time to move a web page or YouTube link from my phone to my Nexus 7 (I'd use Chrome but I usually use the default browser on my phone for the Flash support...YouTube works really well, even keeps your spot in the video when you beam it over.)
That means nothing. There's still people that swear by the Palm Pre and think WebOS is the best thing ever.
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The Faceless Master
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you're really asking what i use Internet Relay Chat to do? well, i can 100% assure you it's for the purposes of Chat. i've been using IRC since 1996, and some of the people i know who use it have been using it before me.
I completely get that, and see my post here to understand that I agree with you on the app story: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42394699&postcount=9888
The app story and accessory story is still unknown to a degree. But it'll likely be a lot better thanks to support for native app development, and the accessory story for the Lumia 900 is already pretty good.
Software updates will finally be distributed right from Microsoft to all phones, without carrier intervention, since Microsoft owns the support costs for at least a year and a half.
Your comparison to Android is just a joke though. The Lumia 900 has received a ton of software updates already, and my 2-year-old Samsung Focus has received more significant updates than most 2-year-old Android phones. Not to mention the fact that my 2-year-old Samsung Focus is still 100% compatible with literally every single one of the 100,000+ apps on the marketplace. No matter how old my phone is, there is absolutely 0 fragmentation in what I can run, and what my phone can do. Same goes with literally every other Windows Phone on the market.
But I was merely talking about the OS anyway, taken on its own, since that's specifically what the person I was replying to was talking about:
So...you know....I was asking him about what was lacking in the OS itself, not the obvious stuff you mentioned (alongside some bad comparisons)
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