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Android Thread - 2011 Edition | Stuffed on Gingerbread, Hungry for Honeycomb!

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Brettison said:
Who says either look great?
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The dude with bald black guy in his avatar.


Great, I can rely on other people to fix Google's mess! Like Sense, Blur, TouchWiz...
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....huh? Maybe im just missing something here, but I thought that being able to do exactly that was android's strength? Don't like what you see? Change it however you like.
 
Bboy AJ said:
God, Android is still fucking hideous. I'll stick with my iPad for a tablet.
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kinggroin said:
....huh? Maybe im just missing something here, but I thought that being able to do exactly that was android's strength? Don't like what you see? Change it however you like.
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A change for preference is good. I agree. But what Android puts out isn't good. You're changing because of a subpar effort rather than changing based on preference.

There's no way to change some UI inconsistencies either, like copy and paste. At least to my knowledge. Guaranteed Honeycomb will have several such UI inconsistencies. I'll eat my hat if it doesn't.

iPad iOS has work to do, too. Apple doesn't put the screen to use, like for widgets.
 
Brettison said:
Who says either look great?
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I'm not saying that either looks great, but I am saying that stock iphone looks good and stock android looks fairly bad. I don't own either, but I've used them both a fair bit. I'll repeat that android needs a visual update.
 
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:
Gaf i got a HTC Legend, whats some good shit i should put on it?
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I'm in CES mode right now, so I won't go into detail, but you might want to check out these apps:

Lookout
Swype
VPlayer
Pandora
RadioTime
 
I've noticed no phones with NFC. I thought Google really wanted to push this. Did I miss something?
 
Seems like this thread has turned into CES 2011..

Anyway, im new to android, i bought an HTC legend, with canada's Virgin mobile provider. Now..

How come i cant use live wallpapers on legend? Seems it has to be rooted but i wont want to fuck up the warranty after just a few weeks with it.

Also all those android versions, do all phones get the software upgrade or when its 2.1 its always 2.1?

I downloaded a few apps thanks to the android software thread, like layar, colordict, geobeagle, movies, mixzing, slacker radio, tunewiki, google sky map, shopsavvy, metal detector, gpu status, wikitude.. and a few more

I remember someone showing me his android and he had google maps where he had 3d skyscrappers in new-york, but i cant for the life of me get this to work, is it even possible on HTC legend?
Any mind blowing stuffs i should get while at it?
 
Bboy AJ said:
I've noticed no phones with NFC. I thought Google really wanted to push this. Did I miss something?
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No you didn't. I'm assuming all other manufacturers found out about NFC just last month too. Many of the devices announced today are still at 2.2 froyo anyway so a nfc chip was never on the agenda for them.

P.S.
Bboy AJ said:
]There's no way to change some UI inconsistencies either, like copy and paste. At least to my knowledge. Guaranteed Honeycomb will have several such UI inconsistencies. I'll eat my hat if it doesn't.
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before any iOS fans start gloating:
Chris Clark said:
Joshua Topolsky said:
In the browser, you long press on text to bring up your anchors, then drag and tap the center of your selection -- boom, copied text. In text editing fields, however, in order to select a word you must long press on the word, wait for a contextual menu to pop up, and then select "select word" -- a completely counterintuitive process. In the message app you can long press to select only the entire message, and in Google Reader?
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The quote is from Engadget’s review of the latest device in Android land. John Gruber pulls it from a mostly positive review as a small example of what’s wrong with Android: lots of tiny inconsistencies stacked high enough to be infuriating. I can’t pass much comment because I don’t have an Android phone: the iPhone is the only smartphone I’ve ever owned and used day to day, so my opinion is pretty worthless in comparing platforms, but this segment of the quote, as cherry-picked by me from John’s larger cherry-picking, applies just as much to iOS as Android.

On iOS, text selection is largely up to the app developer. There’s a lot of text you simply can’t select in apps; try selecting a song name in the iPod app, for example… no dice. Sometimes long-holding an element of the UI lets you copy the entire text of the held element, such as in Messages and Calculator, with no fine-selection mechanism. In Safari and other “web views” you long-hold and it selects the nearest word (or contents of the nearest DOM node, it depends on your zoom level) and then you can fine-tune your selection by dragging handles before hitting the Copy button. In text fields, long-hold doesn’t give you any selection, but gives you a menu to select the nearest word, or select all text, then you can copy. Still on text fields, if you double-tap-and-drag in one motion you get a selection over the dragged area, and you can then hit Copy.

iOS is probably a better mobile operating system for most people, the same way (to borrow an example from Steve Jobs) a Prius is probably a better vehicle than a pickup truck for most people. Be that as it may, consistency of text selection—or just lack of small infuriating inconsistencies—isn’t something it can brag about.
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Makes me mad, but happy to see how fast phone tech is moving. I got my Droid X in July, and now am wishing I could upgrade this year.
 
Bboy AJ said:
I've noticed no phones with NFC. I thought Google really wanted to push this. Did I miss something?
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Not enough time to implement it into these devices I am guessing. Since Google only showed NFC a month or so ago
 
So if you haven’t noticed yet, 3.0 always has this bar on the bottom of UI. I assume this is to compensate for the demise of physical search/back/home buttons? Not sure if killing all physical buttons is prudent.

nge1n
 
kinggroin said:
http://androidforums.com/htc-legend/

Knock yourself out.

I suggest trying out different home launchers:

Launcher Pro
ADW EX
GO Launcher
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i find xda forums are better for htc legend...

with those launchers do they completely remove htc sense?

@buggy loop you can wait for official virgin 2.2 for legend or flash the ruu*.exe while in usb fastboot mode to get it now...3d is possible even on the legend
 
Bboy AJ said:
Elegance, polish, finish, consistency. Android has none of these. It was supposed to be coming for a long time and we haven't seen much of it at all.


Great, I can rely on other people to fix Google's mess! Like Sense, Blur, TouchWiz...
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According to gkryhewy, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do when fixing Apple's "mess"....

Charred Greyface said:
So screen ratios:
iPad - 4:3
Xoom - 16:10

yay or nay for Xoom?
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Ugh, that's a nay for me.

I really wish more Android tablets would be 4:3.

I really want a 4:3 tablet with widgets. Is that too much to ask for?
 
giga said:
So if you haven’t noticed yet, 3.0 always has this bar on the bottom of UI. I assume this is to compensate for the demise of physical search/back/home buttons? Not sure if killing all physical buttons is prudent.

nge1n
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And the bar is ugly as balls. Frankly I'm not fond of 3.0 at all so far. Gingerbread was going places with the green, and honeycomb just feels totally separate...and not in a good way.
 
Anyone remember what the turnaround time for phones announced at CES 2010 to come out was?

They're saying Q1 for the Atrix.. but that could be as late as April. And I don't want to wait that long. :(
 
giga said:
So if you haven’t noticed yet, 3.0 always has this bar on the bottom of UI. I assume this is to compensate for the demise of physical search/back/home buttons? Not sure if killing all physical buttons is prudent.
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I guess the buttons on the bottom bar are Back, Home and Menu?

Many of the Android phones don't really have physical buttons anyway, so I think this is kind of a push. Models with the capacitive touch buttons really aren't accessible until you pull the phone out of standby, this wouldn't be any different.

It looks like they permanently anchored search/voice actions in the top left of the screen, and some kind of apps drawer replacement on the right.
 
sorry if this is out of place...

My friend has a Droid X and it seems to be slower than it should be. Is there anything I could do to it to make it snappier and just an overall better experience for her? She is updated with the new software, but should she be Rooted or whatever?

Thanks
 
Malleymal said:
sorry if this is out of place...

My friend has a Droid X and it seems to be slower than it should be. Is there anything I could do to it to make it snappier and just an overall better experience for her? She is updated with the new software, but should she be Rooted or whatever?

Thanks
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Switch from MotoBlur (the base UI/launcher that comes with it) to Launcher Pro, ADW, or GO Launcher.

I suggest Launcher Pro the most, and if you like it buy the Pro version. It sped up my X.
 
peppermints said:
Anyone remember what the turnaround time for phones announced at CES 2010 to come out was?

They're saying Q1 for the Atrix.. but that could be as late as April. And I don't want to wait that long. :(
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Q1 would be latest March.

I'm not too impressed with the bionic. Besides dual core, it's pretty much a similar phone to the HTC thunderbolt which looks like it'll be released this month. Also there are conflicting reports on whether it's 1gb ram or 512meg ram. Maybe if it was slated for an earlier release I'd be a bit more intrigued but at Q2 I'm less inclined.

I really really like the look of the Optimus 2x. 4" is perfect for me, but no announcement date makes me sad. Well, there's always tomorrow for Verizon's keynote
 
Deadly Cyclone said:
Switch from MotoBlur (the base UI/launcher that comes with it) to Launcher Pro, ADW, or GO Launcher.

I suggest Launcher Pro the most, and if you like it buy the Pro version. It sped up my X.
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Thanks man.. is that the main Launcher pro app on the app store? I saw a bunch of different stuff, and didnt know which one was the legit one. thanks again man
 
pxleyes said:
And the bar is ugly as balls. Frankly I'm not fond of 3.0 at all so far. Gingerbread was going places with the green, and honeycomb just feels totally separate...and not in a good way.
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Blech, I agree.
 
giga said:
So if you haven’t noticed yet, 3.0 always has this bar on the bottom of UI. I assume this is to compensate for the demise of physical search/back/home buttons? Not sure if killing all physical buttons is prudent.

nge1n
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what's the third button? is it for multitasking (i.e. app switcher) ?
 
Malleymal said:
Thanks man.. is that the main Launcher pro app on the app store? I saw a bunch of different stuff, and didnt know which one was the legit one. thanks again man
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Yep, called Launcher Pro. It will replace the whole UI with a new one, also adds a bottom app bar to which you can add shortcuts (can scroll through it 3 times).
 
I'm really loving "Go Launcher" and the "Go SMS" apps. it seems smoother and the sms app seems as quick as handcent SMS used to be. :D
 
I just watched the LG Optimus ad, wow way to make a terrible ad.

Anyway, the Optimus looks good in terms of whats under the case but does it looks ugly! Any news on other dual core phones?
 
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Looks sweet.


Not interested in tablets until there's some real handwriting functionality. The Atrix on the other hand, is pretty interesting.
 
giga said:
So if you haven’t noticed yet, 3.0 always has this bar on the bottom of UI. I assume this is to compensate for the demise of physical search/back/home buttons? Not sure if killing all physical buttons is prudent.

nge1n
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I think the physical buttons we've been seeing on Froyo tablets will be disappearing. Those four buttons don't make too much sense on a tablet 7 inches or bigger.
 
giga said:
So if you haven’t noticed yet, 3.0 always has this bar on the bottom of UI. I assume this is to compensate for the demise of physical search/back/home buttons? Not sure if killing all physical buttons is prudent.

nge1n
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the buttons in the bar are also contextual:

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(back button changed to dismiss keyboard button)

Where is the search button anyway? Yeah, I'll have to wait to try it before drawing further conclusions. To be honest, I'd take the Notion Ink Adam over anything Google has shown so far. I'm not a fan of the Chrome style tabs in the Honeycomb browser though. On the 10" and 7" tablets I've used, tabs on top just don't work imo. Either put the tabs at the side or at the bottom.
 
i was meh about webtop with the atrix, but i'm all over it now, its basically a netbook. How is att going to monetize this? cause you know this shit aint going to be free
 
Marty Chinn said:
According to gkryhewy, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do when fixing Apple's "mess"....



Ugh, that's a nay for me.

I really wish more Android tablets would be 4:3.

I really want a 4:3 tablet with widgets. Is that too much to ask for?
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why is 16:10 so bad compared to 4:3?
 
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