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Android Thread - 2011 Edition | Stuffed on Gingerbread, Hungry for Honeycomb!

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Totakeke said:
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Looks sweet.


Not interested in tablets until there's some real handwriting functionality. The Atrix on the other hand, is pretty interesting.


I may be getting this phone.
 
Arc, the Atrix, and Samsung's Infuse look pretty sweet. ATT is cleaning up with Android right now. Wonder what we'll see from Verizon...perhaps an iPhone announcement already with the way ATT is going with Android right now.
 
XMonkey said:
Arc, the Atrix, and Samsung's Infuse look pretty sweet. ATT is cleaning up with Android right now. Wonder what we'll see from Verizon...perhaps an iPhone announcement already with the way ATT is going with Android right now.
Verizon has their own keynote this morning, natch.
 
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Nice...I don't even have 2.3 on my phone and it's up to 2.4.

After some poking around on the device, they concluded that the update was likely a small update for Gingerbread in the vein of Android 2.0 and 2.1, both of which were named Eclair. The biggest feature seems to be an uncompleted Google Talk app that would allow video calling

T-mobile shares longer videos of Honeycomb:

Overview:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5LNJ9rjTlY

Books:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66u7lzve1e8

Browser: First Look:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU1Y62IP-b4

GTalk:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHZWAE1kKzY

Maps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk3wGXmtQBU
 
So, as a reminder, today is the first official day of the show.

11:30 AM EST

Gary Shapiro, CEA President and CEO, will give the keynote address kicking off the show talking about the state of the consumer electronics industry (expect shit tons of stats about smartphone penetration).

Immediately following him will be Gary Shapiro, Verizon CEO, who will probably tout LTE and then move into a lineup of phones to match or blowout whatever AT&T showed off yesterday.
 
So are we all in agreement that the Atrix is the best phone shown as of now? Very slick. I doubt I'd use the dock at all but the fact that it has the horsepower to do that is nice. I wonder what the battery life will be like.
 
Bboy AJ said:
So are we all in agreement that the Atrix is the best phone shown as of now? Very slick. I doubt I'd use the dock at all but the fact that it has the horsepower to do that is nice. I wonder what the battery life will be like.

Yep. Atrix definitely the most impressive so far and the main event hasn't even started yet.
 
Talon- said:
I'm sure AT&T 3G was a couple times faster before a couple million smartphones (or however many/X square miles) were on it.

the fact that one exists is the big news here, seriously
 
Atrix certainly has me wondering why we need tablets now. Just upgrade the thing to Honeycomb and produce a Tablet dock accessory. Tablets can become shells for our smartphones that just add a bigger screen and extra battery reserves, why not?
 
kaching said:
Atrix certainly has me wondering why we need tablets now. Just upgrade the thing to Honeycomb and produce a Tablet dock accessory. Tablets can become shells for our smartphones that just add a bigger screen and extra battery reserves, why not?
Option A: Sell smartphones and tablets.
Option B: Sell smartphones and docks.
 
Tablets still need huge batteries for one, but sure. It also provides a good reason for the ever increasing processing power inside every generation of phones that seem to be getting excessive into diminishing returns for what we can do with them.
 
kaching said:
Option C: All of the above
Why cannibalize your own product?

The Atrix is totally a innovative way for Motorola to hedge their bet. That said, how much is that dock/laptop going to cost? Genuinely curious.
 
Talon- said:
Why cannibalize your own product?

The Atrix is totally a innovative way for Motorola to hedge their bet. That said, how much is that dock/laptop going to cost? Genuinely curious.
The "we" in my question above was referencing the consumer, not the manufacturer. Even so, not every manufacturer would necessarily want to compete on all these fronts. Every device running its own distinct OS implementation is going to require ongoing maintenance, updates, its own separate development track, essentially. Producing fewer core computing devices that can be used in conjunction with a number of dumb terminals in different formfactors could be an attractive alternative.
 
Now, admittedly, we're looking at a very nascent form factor in tablets that's largely been targeted at consumers insofar.

That laptop dock is going to make more sense for enterprise use. The fact that Windows 8 will support ARM speaks to how much more versatile smartphones are going to become in the future.

I guarantee folks at Dell, HP, [insert manufacturer here] have already put work into workstation docks for smartphones. Think of it as the next generation of laptop docks except with a much larger berth.

There's a reason Goldman Sachs put out that report estimating that PC sales will be cut by between 30-50% by 2015.
 
DrFunk said:
the fact that one exists is the big news here, seriously
Is it though? I mean we already know At&t is moving to LTE they just are behind the curve in terms of getting it up and running compared to their competition is Verizon. Obviously though since the LTE network was gonna go live later this year we'd be getting phones. It's just say 6 months in phone time is an eternity so most companies wouldn't bother right now.

PS: I was more hyped about LTE and 4g in theory than actuality. Most of my phone time is already spent on WiFi anyways.
 
Atrix with a Google OS when docking it should be interesting..

Perhaps some phone in the future does that..
 
kaching said:
Producing fewer core computing devices that can be used in conjunction with a number of dumb terminals in different formfactors could be an attractive alternative.
This would be great for the end consumer, but we know how much these manufacturers like to pull an Apple and work with proprietary standards. It's why these smartphone manufacturers put skins over Android - they need to differentiate their product.

Can't say I blame them.

I mean, hell, it took until last year for micro USB to become the standard for chargers in Europe.

Maybe Google can save us nerds. Make a Cr-48 frame for a Nexus 5 or whenever. :lol
 
They can still build proprietary. What's stopping the docking terminals from being proprietary after all? Not that I'm advocating that, at all.
 
so i think its pretty clear that all this worry over dual core needs for honeycomb on phones was for naught. Its pretty clear its a tablet only build and that updates will continue to come to single core phones. How many updates has the Nexus 1 gotten (if you include the upcoming gingerbread?), i'm assuming that the nexus s will go through a few updates as well. The dual core Moto phone appears to be made that way in order to handle webtop.
 
Brettison said:
Is it though? I mean we already know At&t is moving to LTE they just are behind the curve in terms of getting it up and running compared to their competition is Verizon. Obviously though since the LTE network was gonna go live later this year we'd be getting phones. It's just say 6 months in phone time is an eternity so most companies wouldn't bother right now.

PS: I was more hyped about LTE and 4g in theory than actuality. Most of my phone time is already spent on WiFi anyways.

Yeah, the prototype aspect is what fascinates me, I guess
 
gcubed said:
so i think its pretty clear that all this worry over dual core needs for honeycomb on phones was for naught. Its pretty clear its a tablet only build and that updates will continue to come to single core phones. How many updates has the Nexus 1 gotten (if you include the upcoming gingerbread?), i'm assuming that the nexus s will go through a few updates as well. The dual core Moto phone appears to be made that way in order to handle webtop.
Confirmation from Google's Dan Morrill

Random note: there's no hard minimum processor requirement for Honeycomb. Trust me, if there were I'd know.

Link
 
Love the 3.0 features, but the UI on XOOM is iffy. Can't wait to theme the fuck out of it though.

Hopefully it comes before the end of march.
 
Is anyone else worried/confused about the Motorola XOOM being glanced over at the Motorola conference?

The rumor is that the XOOM will be Google's flagship tablet, but Andy Rubin was nowhere to be seen. Google is always at the unveiling of their Android flagship devices (Droid, G1, etc.), but they were nowhere to be seen yesterday, which is very strange.

To make matters weirder, T-Mobile and LG have shown more of Honeycomb and their tablet (G-Slate), and they haven't even had their conference yet.

Maybe Google and Motorola will host a "coming out" party as it nears release -- or maybe, the first Honeycomb tablets--LG and Motorola--will be collectively the flagship devices?
 
Vyse, seems like it's just too early to show Honeycomb devices - the builds are still early. Motorola barely wants anyone to touch the Xoom at the show, it's just running video loops.
 
Vyse The Legend said:
Is anyone else worried/confused about the Motorola XOOM being glanced over at the Motorola conference?

The rumor is that the XOOM will be Google's flagship tablet, but Andy Rubin was nowhere to be seen. Google is always at the unveiling of their Android flagship devices (Droid, G1, etc.), but they were nowhere to be seen yesterday, which is very strange.

To make matters weirder, T-Mobile and LG have shown more of Honeycomb and their tablet (G-Slate), and they haven't even had their conference yet.

Maybe Google and Motorola will host a "coming out" party as it nears release -- or maybe, the first Honeycomb tablets--LG and Motorola--will be collectively the flagship devices?

it was pretty clear that honeycomb wasn't ready to be shown off... the fact that motorola was the only one to have it was evidence enough that it is google flagship tablet product. It made an honorary appearance but i expect a much better either MWC announcement (When is it this year?) or a google conference. Google can have a pretty decent size conference with Google publications, google music, google voice with SIP built in, gingerbread (and gingerbread 2) and honeycomb with Xoom.

Talon- said:
Confirmation from Google's Dan Morrill

Random note: there's no hard minimum processor requirement for Honeycomb. Trust me, if there were I'd know.

Link
yup, just saw that, right on cue :lol
 
T-Mobile presser at 11am PST. I doubt there's gonna be anything on par with the Atrix to show (aside from the dual-core LG phone I suppose). Here's to hoping the G-slate doesn't suck... *



* Anything less than Tegra 2, 512MB Ram, hdmi + card reader at around $400 is uncivilized and dead to me.
 
Vyse The Legend said:
Is anyone else worried/confused about the Motorola XOOM being glanced over at the Motorola conference?

The rumor is that the XOOM will be Google's flagship tablet, but Andy Rubin was nowhere to be seen. Google is always at the unveiling of their Android flagship devices (Droid, G1, etc.), but they were nowhere to be seen yesterday, which is very strange.

To make matters weirder, T-Mobile and LG have shown more of Honeycomb and their tablet (G-Slate), and they haven't even had their conference yet.

Maybe Google and Motorola will host a "coming out" party as it nears release -- or maybe, the first Honeycomb tablets--LG and Motorola--will be collectively the flagship devices?

doesn't verizon still have their conference today? it is a verizon device after all

and :lol @

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So, the Xperia Arc looks nice, huh? Too bad I'll never buy a SE Android phone. I don't like shit like this that much.

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In before: Root your phone!
 
gcubed said:
when is verizons? i'm at the end of my contract so i can make an informed choice. I just hate CDMA
Talon- said:
So, as a reminder, today is the first official day of the show.

11:30 AM EST

Gary Shapiro, CEA President and CEO, will give the keynote address kicking off the show talking about the state of the consumer electronics industry (expect shit tons of stats about smartphone penetration).

Immediately following him will be Gary Shapiro, Verizon CEO, who will probably tout LTE and then move into a lineup of phones to match or blowout whatever AT&T showed off yesterday.
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looks like verizon is up next. anyone know if there's live video anywhere? doesn't seem to be anything on cnet
 
It feels like some timelines have slipped on Google's side, as far as the release of Gingerbread. I wonder what happened. Oracle/Java lawsuit related? They seem so quiet right now.

It is crazy to see all of these companies fawning over Android, and Google not being ready with Gingerbread or a solid showing of Honeycomb.

Also, where is the web market and music streaming service? I wonder if the media/content cock blocking that Google TV is getting, is also happening with their other planned services.
 
tfur said:
It feels like some timelines have slipped on Google's side, as far as the release of Gingerbread. I wonder what happened. Oracle/Java lawsuit related? They seem so quiet right now.

It is crazy to see all of these companies fawning over Android, and Google not being ready with Gingerbread or a solid showing of Honeycomb.

Also, where is the web market and music streaming service? I wonder if the media/content cock blocking that Google TV is getting, is also happening with their other planned services.

they pulled google tv from CES, honeycomb is behind schedule and it looks like they may have rushed out 2.3 gingerbread for the nexus S with 2.4 already on a phone at CES. A bit of a rough patch. If they delayed the full gingerbread release and 2.4 came with SIP calling through voice and gtalk video calling along with full hardware acceleration i'd be happy to forgive.
 
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