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Android Thread - 2011 Edition | Stuffed on Gingerbread, Hungry for Honeycomb!
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gcubed said:
Google goes "Look how open we are, we want to include everyone!"
Then Google goes "psssst.....come here....yea...you...come here...look at all this cool shit we want to do but have no way of doing it"
"We're working closely with our partners."
Then they start giving away all the stolen software code, and that frees up the money bags to be filled from the assemblers (samnsung/htc/etc).
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I've always wondered how that works.
BackwardsSuggestions
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Quick question: Can you update Android manually?
I'm not going to lie, I stupidly tried to root my Xperia Play, bricked it and now I can't re-lock the bootloader to update officially.
Just says "This device has been modified" and bricks it.
So my software is stuck on 2. something. Whatever the play shipped with.
I'm not going to lie, I stupidly tried to root my Xperia Play, bricked it and now I can't re-lock the bootloader to update officially.
Just says "This device has been modified" and bricks it.So my software is stuck on 2. something. Whatever the play shipped with.
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Copernicus said:
Why exactly are you spending so much time in this thread?
TouchMyBox said:
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer and all that jazz.
MasterShotgun said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=444443
That should give you a direction.
MasterShotgun
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Time for a question that I'm sure is asked here often.
I just got my Droid 3 last night. First smartphone ever, and it's pretty damn awesome. I went ahead and rooted it with no problem. I was surprised at how easy it was. I used Titanium Backup to freeze some apps, and once my MicroSD card gets here, I'll get the bloatware off my phone for good.
So now that that's taken care of, I'm looking for apps. What are the best apps I should go for? I have Flashlight, JuiceDefender, Weather Channel, and Dolphin Browser HD, but not much else. If there are any good threads on this, links would be appreciated.
I just got my Droid 3 last night. First smartphone ever, and it's pretty damn awesome. I went ahead and rooted it with no problem. I was surprised at how easy it was. I used Titanium Backup to freeze some apps, and once my MicroSD card gets here, I'll get the bloatware off my phone for good.
So now that that's taken care of, I'm looking for apps. What are the best apps I should go for? I have Flashlight, JuiceDefender, Weather Channel, and Dolphin Browser HD, but not much else. If there are any good threads on this, links would be appreciated.
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Dude are you high? I mean, I am too.. but relatively speaking nobody can even get 4G coverage. People can be so myopic/ethnocentric when it comes to technology. Get some perspective. 4G is a non-factor right now.SUPREME1 said:
BackwardsSuggestions said:Quick question: Can you update Android manually?
I'm not going to lie, I stupidly tried to root my Xperia Play, bricked it and now I can't re-lock the bootloader to update officially.
So my software is stuck on 2. something. Whatever the play shipped with.
i can't see why not, have you checked xda-developers.com?
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I don't know, no. I don't care about 4G at all yet.AndyD said:
Just something about "these guys are seriously trying to get excited for a non 4G phone" seemed like lunacy. Considering LTE is only available in a handful of places. Did LTE suddenly blanket the world while I was asleep or something? In my opinion, right now, 4G is only something I'd consider for a WiFi hotspot. I don't see that changing for another 18 months or so.
Agreed. 3G is perfectly fine for almost any application except for high quality video streaming and downloading massive files. I have turned 4G on maybe 4 times in the past 2 months since I got my 3VO, and it was for tasks I could have just waited to do when I get home to wifi.Jtwo said:
Plus, if you don't live in a major city, you don't have 4G.
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If I lived in a city with 4G coverage I might be singing a different tune, but for refreshing my RSS feed and streaming audio 3G is more or less completely perfect. If it could get a little more stable and reduce the latency a little touch it'd be even better. Right now I'm honestly kind of confused about what you'd even use 4G for.. other than tethering to your laptop. Innovation and progress is a good thing, but it rarely makes its way into super mainstream products until after its fully baked.
Cudder said:
Dude, you're on a nexus one with stock firmware?
http://android.modaco.com/topic/298782-08mar-superboot-erd79-gri40-rooting-the-nexus-one/
A lot of peoples smartpones are their wifi hotspots. 4G isn't a non-factor right now, plus a lot of people do keep their phones for 2 years (though I don't) so it should be a consideration. That said, people that want an iPhone don't really have any other choice so it isn't weird that they would be excited about the next one even with its absence of 4G.Jtwo said:
And of course you'd be singing a different tune if it was in your area. CDMA 3G is nothing special and I noticed a huge difference when LTE went live, even with general browsing.
Jtwo said:
Are you serious? My dad got a Bionic and I'm extremely jealous of how much faster his phone is on the Internet than mine. I have a G2 with T-Mobile's "4G" and it's nice, but it gets stomped by my dad's Bionic. I consistently beat my friends on their iPhone 4s, and if they don't get any major improvement with the iPhone 5, they'd be right to be pissed.
And I don't live in a major city. I'm in a suburb of Salt Lake City, and the 4G coverage is everywhere here.
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Damn. Phone automatically updated and bricked itself again.
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SUPREME1 said:
See, I am looking into the next iPhone to replace my Droid X and 4G is not even on the table. I don't forsee my area getting 4G for a while anyways, and 3G has never issued a problem for day-to-day out of my home browsing.
Not a big deal.
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Hmmph, well I guess everyone is looking for something different. I just am going off my experience and the way I use internet on my phone I don't even notice a vast difference between 3G and WiFi. There is obviously a difference, of course. But its like the difference of having a webpage load in 4 seconds instead of 6 or 7. Though now that I think about it maybe my Droid's rendering speed is the bottleneck.
But yes, I'm completely and totally serious when I say that for me 4G is a complete nonfactor. I consider myself to be a fairly bleeding edge technology consumer as well. I do agree about the wifi tethering for sure. Thats the only point I'm willing to concede. Even if my city had it, just knowing that I'd be kicked down to 3G when I leave it's boundaries when I'm paying for LTE would be enough to make me throw my phone out the window of my nonexistent car.
My first smartphone was on GPRS or whatever was Pre-EDGE. Now that shit was ghetto.
But yes, I'm completely and totally serious when I say that for me 4G is a complete nonfactor. I consider myself to be a fairly bleeding edge technology consumer as well. I do agree about the wifi tethering for sure. Thats the only point I'm willing to concede. Even if my city had it, just knowing that I'd be kicked down to 3G when I leave it's boundaries when I'm paying for LTE would be enough to make me throw my phone out the window of my nonexistent car.
My first smartphone was on GPRS or whatever was Pre-EDGE. Now that shit was ghetto.
Husker86 said:
Being on 3G and going to 3G is not going back. This in reference to the iPhone 4 and iPhone 5. Now, if an iPhone 4 user got a taste of 4G, that's a different story.
Now I'm sure when the original iPhone was release some users went from 3G to EDGE just to have that phone.
SimleuqiR said:
Oh, sticking to the iPhone only point then I agree. I was talking more general smartphones. Like I said, if you want an iPhone you're gonna get an iPhone. I am interested in what the iPhone5 will bring but it would be hard for me to choose now that I've had 4G speeds. Unless of course, you're on AT&T where the 3G speeds are pretty damn good themselves.
And Jtwo, what do you mean paying for 4G? It costs the same plan-wise, unless you're talking about Verizon's absurd new smartphone pricing.
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Isn't that what I'd have to pay if I were to get a 4G plan?Husker86 said:
I don't know whatever, the price point wasn't my main point. The point was that until 4G is literally everywhere like 3G is, its just not really something thats make or break for me. I'm way more interested in software, having the fastest of fast connections is not at the top of my priority list. When I move to 4G it will probably be because there literally aren't any 3G phones on the market.
Absolutely, thats my main rhetoric I always repeat here. But I just don't anticipate going 4G this year. Hey, if the Nexus Prime/Droid whatever comes out on Verizon with ICS and 4G, I'll probably get it. I'm not against 4G, its just not a selling point for me yet. At all. Its absolutely not something that I'd not purchase the phone I want over.Jeff-DSA said:
If I got a 4G phone this year you can bet that 85% of the time it would be on 3G anyway. Like I said, nonfactor. By the time it is a factor it will be time for a new phone anyway.
Jeff-DSA said:
He doesn't care about new technology, he just wants Google to explain to him how to use their Gmail and Gallery apps
*Hugs*
Jtwo said:
I paid less than the magic $200 price point for my Thunderbolt at launch. I think it had to do with having a corporate discount set on my plan, but with all the discounts out there I have to think the majority of customers could have a discount applied to their plan. Also only signed a 1-year contract but that's obviously not an option anymore.
edit: Sorry, I lied. I remember now it was $175 for a 2-year contract, $225 for a 1-year, I chose the 1 year so I did actually pay more than $200.
I've tried a handful of guides, they all assume the user knows certain shit means like "flash this" or whatever. I need a LITERAL step by step guide on how to do this shit. Doesnt help that almost all guides are for PC not MAC (Which I'm on), and my N1 is on 2.3.4, is that even rootable yet?malyce said:
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Wait I thought we were talking about the monthly service plans. Hmm, had no idea there was no price premium. Thats cool as shit. Still, doesn't really change my perception of 4G right now.Husker86 said:
Cudder said:
I'll have a look around later, but I think it's just a case of most people with N1 aren't really running stock anymore.
Try some of these links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705460
It's been so long I've forgotten what was actually involved.
If you're going to Cyanogenmod any ways, don't even bother about rooting 2.3.4 first. The Cyanogenmod rom comes rooted.
Unlock Bootloader
Load up custom recovery
Load up CyanogenMod Rom(or any other rom)
http://android.modaco.com/topic/299078-how-to-unlock-the-bootloader-on-your-nexus-one/
edit: You're on mac, I posted some different directions like 20 pages back for someone else that was trying to do the same on a mac. Maybe they'll chime in since I forget who it was and when it was.
Husker86 said:
There is no price premium on phones or data. And I can see his point of not caring since he is in a non 4G area, but having had a Thunderbolt with 4G for almost 6 months now, I could not imagine not having a 4G phone if I was in a 4G area. Its so much faster its a no brainer.
And that goes for non LTE 4G as well, ATT, TMobile and Sprint's 4G are also quite good and better than 3G. There really is no reason for a modern phone not to have some sort of 4G.
Epic 4G Touch review is up: http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/15/samsung-epic-4g-touch-review/
Speaking of 4G, Verizon just sent me an email about just adding 28 more cities/areas (not including the batch of 17 or so when they added my city in the middle of August). They are really pushing this out fast, while Sprint has pretty much stagnated for a year while deciding which standard to go with.
Sony announced at TGS that they will be releasing the PlayStation Suite SDK in November. Cross platform development for (PS certified)Android units and PlayStation Vita. Distribution of the content will start next Spring but the PS Store will become available this October (starting with 25 PSOne games).
Most surprisingly is that it's a C# based environment and apparently standalone development kit.
There exists already a good thread for it in gaming:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=445005
Most surprisingly is that it's a C# based environment and apparently standalone development kit.
There exists already a good thread for it in gaming:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=445005
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what do you mean by speed?Pkaz01 said:
bigger screen = bigger device = more space for battery
and some people would argue it has a better screen due to higher PPI!
most likely for better battery life.Pkaz01 said:
speed is determined by software/hardware integration.
thats why even though Apple's A4 processor is running at 800MHz, its still quick as hell on iOS.
but imo yeah, i would say processor is most important in relation to speed, as well as RAM, when it comes to paging/caching issues, like loading up a graphic intensive webpage.
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So after having the htc hero for so long and playing with my brothers evo 3d I am so happy my upgrade comes next week because I am getting that epic 4g touch asap, cant wait, my phone is so damn slow.
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