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Anime is stupid now. (Please don't kill me)

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Great Rumbler said:
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Awesome list of recommendations. Out of all of those you listed what would you consider is most like Ghost in the Shell? That was the last anime I really enjoyed and I am never sure what anime series to add to my Netflix queue. The ones I always get I never get into after the first episode and never end up watching the rest of the seasons.
 
permutated said:
Oh man, talk about quality!

Hyper violence AND titties, doesn't get any better.
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LOL, ok you're just bullshitting around, but I've still gotta recommend it.

Re: Cutey Honey (2004)

Original concept by Go Nagai (Cutey Honey, Mazinger Z)
Directed by Hideaki Anno (Evangelion, Gunbuster)
Animation by Toei (DragonBall, One Piece)

Lots of violence and titties, and it's only 3 episodes so you won't get bored!
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Last Exile
Wolf's Rain
Abenobashi
Tenchi Muyo
Tehcnolixe(or something)
Better Man

all of these are kind of dated so not sure about current animes.
 
If you have to watch one episode of Cowboy Bebop, watch Ballad of Fallen Angels (episode 5). I think Asteroid Blues (the first episode) is good, but it starts the series off a little slow.
 
neoism said:
<--------- Champloo is my favorite, I'm not a really big anime fan. But, their was something about it that I just loved. The only box set I own(anime). Not to mention it has some of the best music ever. Nujabes FTW
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Hear him,hear him well.
 
I'm not into anime either, but if you haven't watched Cowboy Bebop in it's entirety and digested the meaning behind each character driven episode, your opinion isn't valid. Period.
 
It's important to note that most cartoons are shit. And most movies are shit (helped in part by the sheer volume being put out by the sci-fi channel) and it's important to note that most Anime is for kids. Do the math. American adults and young people (not little kids) consuming culturally alien children's cartoons and finding a lot of it isn't very good? Dur.

Some of it is astounding though and beautiful to behold. I am a huge anime hater (when I think about it in terms of volume) and yet my top twenty films probably contains about five "big" anime, including Ghost in the Shell, Akira* and Totoro.

Imagine what a Japanese teen would think if he had to watch Thundercats.

Actually, his mind would probably be blown and he would evolve into a god, Akira-style.


*Pre-Whitta version (lol Gaz sorry I keed)
 
knkng said:
LOL

I also love all the burning hate for Eva in this thread. It's a great show, if you don't like it why do you have to scream about it so much? :lol

Also, just so people stop talking about DragonBall like it's something new.
Manga = Jump #51, 1984
Anime = February 26, 1986
Let the damn series rest in peace and stop mentioning it in the same sentences as Naruto, etc.
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It isn't mentioned for being new, but because of the upcoming live-action movie.

DragonBall (1986) ~ Yes, watch the damn show, it's actually very good.
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Aside from the filler, it was a fun and enjoyable ride.

knkng said:
LOL, ok you're just bullshitting around, but I've still gotta recommend it.

Re: Cutey Honey (2004)

Original concept by Go Nagai (Cutey Honey, Mazinger Z)
Directed by Hideaki Anno (Evangelion, Gunbuster)
Animation by Toei (DragonBall, One Piece)

Lots of violence and titties, and it's only 3 episodes so you won't get bored!
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Actually it was mainly handled by Gainax.
 
Topher said:
I'm not into anime either, but if you haven't watched Cowboy Bebop in it's entirety and digested the meaning behind each character driven episode, your opinion isn't valid. Period.
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No need to be rude, but in all honesty you have your own standard of opinions when it comes to anime and I respect that, regardless I could still give less of a crap of what you think considering I've never met you.

To me your opinion is just as useless as the next guy's.
 
permutated said:
Excuse you?
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So back in the day, we had Ninja Scroll(1993), Perfect Blue(1997), Akira(1988), Evangelion(1995), just to name a few.

These were FANTASTIC.

Now, no, now we have new Dragon Ball(1986-1989, Z: 1989-1996, GT: 1996-1997)...we have Naruto(2002-present)...we have...ugh just let this stupid fad die already. It's overstayed it's welcome.
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Intentional or not, this kind of post fuels needless antagonism.
 
permutated said:
No need to be rude, but in all honesty you have your own standard of opinions when it comes to anime and I respect that, regardless I could still give less of a crap of what you think considering I've never met you.

To me your opinion is just as useless as the next guy's.
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Objectively, no. His opinion is an informed one.

Hitokage said:
Intentional or not, this kind of post fuels needless antagonism.
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A lot of people seem to be missing that he was evidently referring to the new DB live-action movie.
 
cartman414 said:
Objectively, no. His opinion is an informed one.

A lot of people seem to be missing that he was evidently referring to the new DB live-action movie.
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A) I'd rather not be informed than waste time watching stupid, useless anime in search of decent series...

B) No I was actually referring to the run that DBZ/GT had in the states.
 
cartman414 said:
A lot of people seem to be missing that he was evidently referring to the new DB live-action movie.
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That's just part of hollywood's recent attempt to cash in on japanese properties just as they've mined the comic book world, and not really something to do with anime per se.
 
Never got the love for eva, I watch it all and so damn annoying. How can you not love Cowboy Bebop, Spike is a badass, so sad though :(. I don't get the whole anime has gotten bad thing. Just like movies or tv shows, there are bad ones and there are good ones. Just cause you seen a couple doesn't make the rest bad.
 
permutated said:
No need to be rude, but in all honesty you have your own standard of opinions when it comes to anime and I respect that, regardless I could still give less of a crap of what you think considering I've never met you.

To me your opinion is just as useless as the next guy's.
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I apologize if that came off rude, but I was just being blunt. Don't take it personally, Cowboy Bebop just brings out that side of people. You just don't say bad things about it. We just don't go there. :D Still, your reasoning is kind of shallow, I mean...you watch one episode than say it's not all it's cracked up to be? Really?
 
Superman00 said:
I don't get the whole anime has gotten bad thing. Just like movies or tv shows, there are bad ones and there are good ones. Just cause you seen a couple doesn't make the rest bad.
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I think what has changed is that the kind of bad anime has become more insufferable over the years, pandering more to otaku interests rather than simply being cheesy or inept.
 
Hitokage said:
I think what has changed is that the kind of bad anime has become more insufferable over the years, pandering more to otaku interests rather than simply being cheesy or inept.
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Also it's more popular, so they export more shit. Like foreign beer.
 
Topher said:
I apologize if that came off rude, but I was just being blunt. Don't take it personally, Cowboy Bebop just brings out that side of people. You just don't say bad things about it. We just don't go there. :D Still, you're reasoning is kind of shallow, I mean...you watch one episode than say it's not all it's cracked up to be? Really?
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I meant that episode was disappointing, considering he said it was "the best episode of the show" my logic jumped to the conclusion that the rest of the show must have been not that great considering how much I disliked that episode.

Ballad Of Fallen Angels. That was the episode...
 
Hitokage said:
I think what has changed is that the kind of bad anime has become more insufferable over the years, pandering more to otaku interests rather than simply being cheesy or inept.
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I don't really think that is a bad thing. I seen so many, and I can say that most are good as long as you don't try to look too much into it. Sure there are the occasional gem, where it makes you think and wonder. But if you expect every anime to be like that then it's just gonna be a disappointment.
 
permutated said:
A) I'd rather not be informed than waste time watching stupid, useless anime in search of decent series...
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"Stupid, useless anime" is not a term that by no means matches with Cowboy Bebop.

Besides, Cowboy Bebop is one of those series that needs multiple episodes to be watched. It has a unique way of coalescing.
 
permutated said:
I meant that episode was disappointing, considering he said it was "the best episode of the show" my logic jumped to the conclusion that the rest of the show must have been not that great considering how much I disliked that episode.

Ballad Of Fallen Angels. That was the episode...
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My 2cents:

Cowboy Bebop is something that has to be taken in, whole. Not fragments. You have to let yourself become attached to the characters. Some will tell you that it contains a few filler episodes, but they're really not if you don't look at it from the traditional story telling that anime shows follow. There is no beginning or end to the story to speak of. The first episode starts off in medias res, and the last one ends as such. You will find that at the end of the series some of the characters arcs continue, we'll just never see it. Additionally, each and every episode has a underlying message. Each one fleshing out the background story of a specific character and allowing for some subtle but deep character development. It's something you have to experience for yourself in order to get the full picture.
 
I only watched Evangelion out of the four you listed (need to get around to Perfect Blue sometime) and I can say that Dennou Coil is infinitely better.

Millennium Actress, however, is the best.
 
Topher said:
My 2cents:

Cowboy Bebop is something that has to be taken in, whole. Not fragments. You have to let yourself become attached to the characters. Some will tell you that it contains a few filler episodes, but they're really not if you don't look at it from the traditional story telling that anime shows follow. There is no beginning or end to the story to speak of. The first episode starts off in medias res, and ends as such. You will find that at the end of the series some of the characters arcs continue, we'll just never see it. Additionally, each and every episode has a underlying message. Each one fleshing out the background story of a specific character and allowing for some subtle but deep character development. It's something you have to experience for yourself in order to get the full picture.
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Heard & understood.

You've convinced me to watch it in it's entirety, hope that was your point :D

I'll be adding it to Netflix...

Thanks to everyone who participated in this thread, can't wait to watch all the recommendations, I'm out (for a while) before it turns into a flame war...

I'll report back or contact you personally to say thanks, I really do appreciate it.
 
permutated said:
I meant that episode was disappointing, considering he said it was "the best episode of the show" my logic jumped to the conclusion that the rest of the show must have been not that great considering how much I disliked that episode.

Ballad Of Fallen Angels. That was the episode...
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The issue with Cowboy Bebop is that it is very difficult to judge it appropriately based on a few episodes. It is (generally speaking) episodic, but there is also an overarching storyline, and a large part of the appeal of the show is getting to see the cast's past. It isn't like, say, Planetes in terms of realistic character and cast development, but it is still worth watching.

Ballad of Fallen Angels is a lot of people's favorite partly because of those elements, and you aren't going to get that if you simply choose an episode because you heard it was the best. That said, you didn't like it at all, so perhaps it might not be for you.

As for me, I've made a list of recommendations. =)

Edit: Topher said it wonderfully. So much for that. :lol
 
permutated said:
Heard & understood.

You've convinced me to watch it in it's entirety, hope that was your point :D

I'll be adding it to Netflix...[/U]
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You won't be disspointed. Can pretty much guarentee you that. A few more things:

1.) You can get the complete box set for 40 bucks at Amazon w/ free shipping.
2.) The visuals and story are only half of what makes it compelling. The soundtrack is something that just un matched to this day (based on my experence) for an anime show. Jazz, metal, blues, and a pinch of classical. The director really has a sound taste in music and it shows.
3.) Watch the movie too.
 
BlueTsunami said:
Just watch Berserk and be done with it
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It must be said because it is indeed factual:

All Tom + Jerry episodes (except the Gene Deitch ones) > pretty much any anime title ever.
 
cartman414 said:
Aside from the filler, it was a fun and enjoyable ride.
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Well, yeah, but that's not exactly Toriyama's fault. Of course I'd recommend the manga over the anime, but that's not what this thread is about.

Actually it was mainly handled by Gainax.
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To me Gainax is implied in Anno's name. Toei still got top billing, though. From the ending credits:

Animation Production: Toei Animation
Animation Production in cooperation with: Gainax

bjork said:
All Tom + Jerry episodes (except the Gene Deitch ones) > pretty much any anime title ever.
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This is an odd comparison that can't even be defended, though. From my point of view, 1920-1960 belonged to the US, 1963-1990 belonged to Japan, and 1990+ is a mixed bag. But you can't really say that Steam Boat Willie is better than Grave of the Fireflies for example. Both have their place in the world of animation.
 
knkng said:
This is an odd comparison that can't even be defended, though. From my point of view, 1920-1960 belonged to the US, 1963-1990 belonged to Japan, and 1990+ is a mixed bag. But you can't really say that Steam Boat Willie is better than Grave of the Fireflies for example. Both have their place in the world of animation.
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I suppose this is true, but I was speaking for myself from a standpoint of personal enjoyment. :p
 
bjork said:
It must be said because it is indeed factual:

All Tom + Jerry episodes (except the Gene Deitch ones) > pretty much any anime title ever.
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Tom and Jerry kicks ass. Reruns on my friend's TV cured me of a hangover once. True story. :D
 
If there is one series that does it right with the animation style of today's anime series and actually has an amazing and original story, it's Baccano.
 
Koshiba said:
Tom and Jerry kicks ass. Reruns on my friend's TV cured me of a hangover once. True story. :D
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So, I pretty much hate Tom and Jerry :lol But not nearly as much as I hated Bugs Bunny

Actually, I hated most of those cartoons as a kid, except teh Wile E Coyote ones, I guess.
 
These days I only watch Kon's stuff and Studio Ghibli's output. I don't trust anime fans opinions, for they are anime nerds 1st and movie buffs 32nd. Generally, it seems all an anime has to have is flashy fights and some blood for it to get the seal of approval.
 
etiolate said:
These days I only watch Kon's stuff and Studio Ghibli's output. I don't trust anime fans opinions, for they are anime nerds 1st and movie buffs 32nd. Generally, it seems all an anime has to have is flashy fights and some blood for it to get the seal of approval.
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What about those who are movie nerds 1st and anime nerds 2nd?
 
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