Audioboxer
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Why For? said:
Pamela Anderson or bust.
This is also a dick move.
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Anonymous hacking group to target Sony? [PlayStation.com Goes Down]
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Pamela Anderson or bust.
This is also a dick move.
Chinese Electric Batman
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slopeslider said:
The hell?
Acquiescence
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pickle said:
I think if anything they were probably beaten up too much. And now the rest of the world is suffering for it.
Commanche Raisin Toast
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it's obviously okay that the U.S. and other forces have killed huge numbers of civilians in the middle east that were in the way of them gettin' the bad guyz. since you know, us innocent PSN users could get fucked over by hackers that are just trying to get the bad guy, right?
i've already seen so called anon postings about how they don't fuck with innocent people, so if they were to take down PSN, wouldn't that go against their tenants? passing the blame on to a different person/entity doesn't make it right.
i've already seen so called anon postings about how they don't fuck with innocent people, so if they were to take down PSN, wouldn't that go against their tenants? passing the blame on to a different person/entity doesn't make it right.
phosphor112
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It's like "=/="Chinese Electric Batman said:
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!= means "not equal" in many programming languages.
zomgbbqftw
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Chinese Electric Batman said:
It's a super doesn't equal. != and =/= turns into =!=
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daviyoung said:
This should be on a god damned t-shirt.
nincompoop
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DDOS equals doesn't equal hacking.Chinese Electric Batman said:
HiroProtagonist
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slopeslider said:
This x 1000
Downloading, or using the Java script LOIC does not a hacker make. It has a GUI. You put in a url/ip and press a button. They are like monkeys throwing their poop at the zoo keepers face so he cant see. GeoHot and Graf_Chokolo are hackers, these guys are not.
If the MIT hackers of the 50s, 60s, and 70s were annoyed at the term being devalued when applied to the hackers of the 80s and 90s, they must be horrified now (or they are dead).
I suggest reading Steven Levy's book on the subject. Its dry, but very good and very detailed.
Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution by Steven Levy
Jim E. Rossler
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Chinese Electric Batman
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Zerokku said:
phosphor112 said:
Oh, I've seen and used != before, just not =!=.
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Commanche Raisin Toast said:
Taking down PSN is not equivalent to taking someone's life.
With that said they are hurting consumers currently but they are consumers that support Sony's draconian practices.
NullPointer
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How do you figure that? Am I now an accomplice to Sony's court cases because I didn't sell off my PS3 when they patched out OtherOS?UltimaPooh said:
UltimaPooh
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NullPointer said:
I didn't say you had to sell your PS3, it's yours you own it and hopefully that will still be the same through out the rest of history.
Perhaps I might have been harsh that people are actively supporting Sony's business practices by using PSN. The problem is that losing PSN is not a big deal especially if such actions by Anon assists in you keeping your consumer rights.
That is if you care about your consumer rights.
phosphor112
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UltimaPooh said:
I see no logic here.
NullPointer said:
Yes, you're an accomplice, a wanted criminal, a hypocrite. You're also a greedy greedy person and evil. EVIL~! =p
As amusing as I think Anonymous/4chan's actions are, they're not helping at all. At least we'll get some entertainment out of this.
UltimaPooh said:
Holy shit, and I thought I was illogical...
man Anonymous is so cool and sweet and they're doing such a good thing for HUMANITY by their efforts to break the law because they're mad that a company is taking legal action against someone who also broke the law and, by a simple coincidence, is also a huge tardface.
*salute*
Alt: Gamers these days have some FUCKED up priorities.
*salute*
Alt: Gamers these days have some FUCKED up priorities.
phosphor112
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Protect consumers from what? Using a service they agreed and want to use?Billychu said:
Hell, personally, I believe alcohol is a poison that people shouldn't drink, but I'm not going to deprive anyone or take away anyones fucking right to binge on the shit or even drink it casually.
These assholes aren't helping anyone. And to think they are is just stupid.
badcrumble
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I'm sure they'll wreck Sony just like they completely took down Scientol - oh.Amir0x said:
badcrumble said:
I know! But it's the principle of the thing, don't you see? They're setting a golden standard so the PEOPLE WILL RISE UP against the tyranny, of, um, companies who... um... make sure people aren't breaking the law while using their services while also potentially damaging their business. And also helping people destroy the relative stability of online gaming by allowing in a new horde of cheating fuckfaces who complete annihilate competitive play
UltimaPooh
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MrPliskin said:
Nope.
I would be miffed though if Anon made things worse. Right now I don't think getting pissed that PSN was down temporarily. From reading this thread it's back up correct?
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This is obviously fake, they have waaaaay better presentation than that.
faceless007
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Not everyone agrees just because something is against the law it's wrong. Especially if said law was only passed due to lobbying by media companies.Amir0x said:
legacyzero
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So I'm trying to enter my Socom Beta key and it's not working. That's because PSN is having trouble today right?
phosphor112
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UltimaPooh said:
...what? Please, enlighten everyone in this thread about your last post...
Doesn't look like it.
UltimaPooh
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phosphor112 said:
Which one?
NullPointer
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Hey buddy, its my consumer right to have cheating fuckfaces annihilate my online games. Because, seriously, consider the draconian alternatives. Don't tread on me man.Amir0x said:
Commanche Raisin Toast
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UltimaPooh said:
the point. you missed it.
affecting legit/innocent people in order to attack someone that is being considered bad or evil. if people think that taking down a service millions of people enjoy is okay because they don't agree with a company's legal actions then why not just reverse what you seem to think all legit users do, by stop "supporting sony's practices."
if you're going to take the angle of "punish all evil doers and the people that unknowingly support such people" you might as well nuke the entire planet.
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NullPointer said:
Microsoft is capable of keeping people off of their service that abuse it. Why couldn't Sony? I'm not saying people don't have a case for keeping hackers and homebrewers off of PSN because they clearly do. What I don't think should ever be allowed is the inability to modify your own hardware since you OWN it as opposed to not owing software.
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No, all of them didn't. I said I wasn't going to buy MW2 because it didn't have dedicated servers, and I didn't, and I also didn't join that public Steam group.
I like how you think a picture of one page of a Steam group (that anyone could join) showing that half, not all, of the people who happened to be on that particular page were playing MW2 is proof "that all of them bought it".
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Commanche Raisin Toast said:
My over arching point aside from a tangent that I had is that you can't equivocate what Anon is doing to killing thousands. There is definitely a gray scale when it comes to colateral damage and whether or not it is acceptable.
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