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Anonymous hacking group to target Sony? [PlayStation.com Goes Down]
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Dr.Palutena
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ShockingAlberto said:
I know it's like there are "illegal laws " or something :S . also -reads through thread- sigh "I don't want to live on this planet anymore"
phosphor112
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ShockingAlberto said:
I meant legal rights. Was too angry at the stupidity to pay attention to what I was writing. =D
Chrange said:
Roughly zero?
So, Geohot trying to use a RAM exploit in Linux wasn't one? People using a jig jailbreak by using 3rd party controllers/devices wasn't an issue as well?
perineumlick
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Chrange said:Sony modified his quote to make it appear he had targeted them, when in reality he made an open offer to any of the three manufacturers to help them make their next generation more secure.
Thankfully there's no laws against modifying someone's words in legal documents
How much of Sony's problems this gen are a result of making their hardware more open? I'd guess roughly zero. If they make it a more closed-off platform next gen, it's not because it hurt them this gen at all.
Is there any proof of that happening? Or is it internet urban legend?
Uno Venova
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Logged into PSN, and PS.com just fine, thread title should change.
perineumlick said:
Proof of which? His offer was on his twitter account I believe. Sony's modifying of it was bolded in another thread about groklaw coverage I think. They cut off the 'any of you three' part without indicating it wasn't the full quote.
Edit - it was one his website I guess. An early note about the breaking: "if you want your next console to be secure, get in touch with me. any of you 3.
itd be fun to be on the other side.
and this is a real self, hello world"
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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upJTboogie said:
Do note the fact that PSN is a worldwide service and they all don't use the same servers. For most it's up. For some, it's down.
perineumlick
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Chrange said:
So that was his pitch huh? Lol.
Such a bad-ass!
Uno Venova
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This is true, the title does make it seem like it's completely down for all though.shagg_187 said:
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
You can hardly call these people hackers. For the DDOS attacks Anon does, you basically just download a program, input some information, and let it run on your computer. Maybe I just watch too many movies but I've always perceived hacking as involving at least a little programming, worms, spyware, or illegal hardware.
NullPointer
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Reverse psychology DDOS attack. Its genius!dork said:
Its only down for Sony collaborators. You know who you are.shagg_187 said:
RustyNails
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I think its called the Black Swan EffectNullPointer said:
phosphor112 said:
Yeah, because until last year Sony was riding high on a wave of multi-million selling titles ensured by the lack of piracy on their system. Their open platform concept also enabled them to outsell the competition hardware-wise by a good chunk every month as consumers, almost to a man, rejected the notion of closed platforms!
Oh right, that shit didn't happen. Their struggles this gen came down to an absolutely horrible launch price and the loss of mindshare that being late to market brought with it. They won with BluRay though, so that's something right?
https://secure.eu.playstation.com/psn/mypsn/friends/
"This Connection is Untrusted"
strange, I always use that link.
"This Connection is Untrusted"
strange, I always use that link.
phosphor112
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Chrange said:
What is your point? You said zero of their problems came from their open platform, I proved you wrong, and you spout this irrelevant shit.
alr1ghtstart said:
Link doesn't work. lol
phosphor112 said:
GeoHot's approach went nowhere and resulted in nothing. It wasn't until the Jailbreak that he found a way in.
The jailbreak was a result of what again? Oh right, Sony screwing up encryption on a basic level. Must have decided their encryption should be "open" too.
phosphor112
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Chrange said:
IIRC no one made headway on hacking until the SDK leaked, but that is a whole nother topic.
Chrange said:
Actually, the PS3 has sold slightly more units per month on average than the 360 worldwide (48 million in 4 years versus 50 million in 5 years). I don't think it had much to do with the PS3 being a more open platform than the 360, though.
And, of course, the Wii was released at the same time as the PS3 and has sold much better.
perineumlick
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It's all in the name of freedom, dude.user_nat said:
reptilescorpio
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Australian site works fine? Not sure if Anonymous would really bother hacking Sony because of Geohot, seems a little counter-productive to the helping the little guy (ie the people who use the system, us). I'm sure there are one or two hackers who are peeved at the whole deal though.
faceless007 said:
oh right, certainly this is a law worth breaking. Truly this hacking and damaging of Sony's business and their partners (and, in this case, their consumers too) is an act on par with the civil disobedience of the 60s. Geohot is the technology age's Martin Luther King Jr.
The Pope has given his blessing:
phosphor112
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ReBurn said:
It's not exactly "open" it's just they give you the choice in certain aspects of the console, as opposed to Nintendo or Microsoft giving you no choice at all.
It is. They're law breaking douchebags, and have also worked to hurt consumers now. Sue the shit out of them until they can afford no quarter. Destroy their lives. End of line.
Nobody is impressing anyone with third grade idealism based on the testicular end of retardation. You purchased a system, you broke the law, you hurt consumers, you hurt the online environment. This is neither noble nor a cause worth fighting for. Only one worth relentlessly mocking the kiddies over
Nobody is impressing anyone with third grade idealism based on the testicular end of retardation. You purchased a system, you broke the law, you hurt consumers, you hurt the online environment. This is neither noble nor a cause worth fighting for. Only one worth relentlessly mocking the kiddies over
Kagari said:
I always have a simple creed. If you break the law, be man enough to accept the consequences when you are caught. That is the way you play it. When I break the law, I fully accept I may get in trouble for doing so. I am not going to start a petty appeal to the all simpleminded folk to come to my aid for doing so. This is not exactly a law that you need a e-sit in over in order to provide social commentary on the injustice of it.
In reality, there are reasons these protections are in place. Something was done Sony perceived (rightfully, as is now clear) was going to damage their business, and they went after someone who broke the law and advertised the fact they were doing so. This individual is also a tardface. And now we have a second row of fucking retards baying like fucking sheep hurting - tangibly, mind you, unlike the concept this whole bullshit started over - the very consumers they claim to be trying to help. A parade of mouthbreathing piglets.
I hope Sony eviscerates them.
reptilescorpio
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Just tried and us.playstation.com works for me. Maybe it is blocked overseas?Kagari said:
I can guarantee you that if the x360 was hacked with the same level of complete access to everything, Microsoft would go to war and legally trash the shit of anyone behind this; and they would be way harsher than Sony.
The difference here is that the 360 requires extra hardware, firmware flashing and etc, which is harder for the average joe to do; the only thing the ps3 requires is a usb key with the right files on it, and you just press 'next next next'. Also, the access given by the exploit is way wider than the dvd drives firmwares business on the 360.
Ask around; my younger cousin is 13, hardcore gamer as you could get, his ps3 isnt modded but pretty much everybody he knows from highschool shared the same usb key and they are all running custom firmwares; he counted at least 20-30 people he knows of. They swap with each other usb drives stuffed with games and they are building up huge collections. Most of those kids have 360s too, but they dont want to risk losing XBL over this.
THIS is the kind of stuff Sony is trying to prevent and thats why they are going all out. You can't really blame them; let's be honest
The difference here is that the 360 requires extra hardware, firmware flashing and etc, which is harder for the average joe to do; the only thing the ps3 requires is a usb key with the right files on it, and you just press 'next next next'. Also, the access given by the exploit is way wider than the dvd drives firmwares business on the 360.
Ask around; my younger cousin is 13, hardcore gamer as you could get, his ps3 isnt modded but pretty much everybody he knows from highschool shared the same usb key and they are all running custom firmwares; he counted at least 20-30 people he knows of. They swap with each other usb drives stuffed with games and they are building up huge collections. Most of those kids have 360s too, but they dont want to risk losing XBL over this.
THIS is the kind of stuff Sony is trying to prevent and thats why they are going all out. You can't really blame them; let's be honest
phosphor112
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Amir0x said:
I spit out my juice. Luckily my trash can was near by.
H_Prestige
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ReBurn said:
PS3 was never "open". PC's are open. PS3 has always been a closed off machine like any other console. Sony just allowed a lot of nonproprietary peripherals to be hooked up, but that doesn't make the console open.
Amir0x said:
I bet you'd be surprised if Bacardi went after your ass for doing illegal drugs. Should this not be a police matter if laws were broken? Or is the lesson you are trying to impart here "don't cross a big corporation, they will fuck you up - and all the mouthbreathers will happily cheer them on"
jorma said:
If I go to a police station and yell "I AM DOING ILLEGAL DRUGS" and then shockingly get tackled by police men who are going to make sure I am prosecuted, I am not going to whine like a little bitch because that's what happens.
Geohot broke the law, knowingly harmed Sony's business, and then advertised it. And now he simpers like a little child when a business rightfully pursues their interests. We see now also what Anonymous thinks helping "us" means - it really means self-promotion while simultaneously damaging innocent consumers access to Sony's online community. For the, *ahem*, "lulz." Seriously these guys are made up of three year olds.
We are living in a world of seriously warped, idealistic kiddies who genuinely believe these individuals warrant sympathy. It is among the most hilarious gaming news events of the past five years.
shinobi602
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playstation.com also down for me.
Damn, Anonymous know their shit.
Damn, Anonymous know their shit.
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