DevilWillcry
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They're going to spend 3-5 years silently making their next game in a vacuum, but then instead of actually releasing it when it's done, they'll hide it away and continue accumulating interest and building debt in order to spend another 3-5 years releasing phony "in progress" screenshots that paint SK in a perfect light, until they finally decide to release what has become a technologically obsolete game on a console that may have died as many as ten years previously.
Nintendo made up the term "second party" when they bought a stake in Rare and gave them DKC.UraMallas said:
Second party is meaningless and actually refers to the user.
"Affiliated company with equity method applied" is Nintendo's legal-ish way to describe what they see as a second party, which is to say that they hooked them up with an exclusivity contract, and they bought a (non-controlling) chunk of the company's stock. If Nintendo bought 51% control over the company, they'd be a "consolidated subsidiary".
Affiliated company = exclusive
Equity method applied = part owner
Consolidated subsidiary = full owner
SK stopped being a second party a long time ago, because Nintendo released them from the exclusivity contract. They're not an "affiliated company" anymore. But Nintendo didn't ditch their stock, so they still have the "equity method applied". Unless SK signed a new exclusivity contract with Nintendo.
U K Narayan said:
They were at 185 employees on August 8, 2008 (~ 3:40 in this video) and now they're down to 120 according to their website. That's 1/3rd of the studio, seems like a significant downsizing to me.
Dyack decided to go head to head with GAF and we were the ones to emerge victorious.
Which begs the question....what did we win? There must be some spoils of war.
Dyack is loaded, I bet he's got loads of nice stuff just lying around.
Somone find out where he lives on Google Maps and we'll go and ransack the place.
At worst we'll get some really nice books and loads and loads of unused artwork for Too Human 2.
Which begs the question....what did we win? There must be some spoils of war.
Dyack is loaded, I bet he's got loads of nice stuff just lying around.
Somone find out where he lives on Google Maps and we'll go and ransack the place.
At worst we'll get some really nice books and loads and loads of unused artwork for Too Human 2.
Prime Blue
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I wish they'd finally do their Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Redemption for the Wii, I want to see the yellow Ancient.
akachan ningen
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I hope they make TH2, for the lulz.
Yeah, you're right. SK clearly broke away from Nintendo in 2004, but Nintendo's reports for 2005, 2006, (2007 doesn't seem to list the same kinds of stuff), and 2008 all show no change at all in SK's status compared to the years before, even though other companies have updated and shifted from one column to another.Shiggy said:
Maybe Nintendo just plain forgot that SK ever existed? They never got the memo when SK left, so they didn't update their files? :lol
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
i'll always love them for ETERNAL DARKNESS.
Mr. Pointy
Member
I'm hoping SK go back to their developing roots. And by that, I mean more Make My Video games.
Skiptastic
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beelzebozo said:
Same here. <3
would anyone care about SK if Matt from IGN hadn't hyped every interview with them to hell. It was like IGN finally had a credible relationship with a developer and they never shut up about it. Matt acted like a retard with a candy bar. If only I could re-post his blog post "WHAT I LOVE ABOUT TOO HUMAN"...#1 ROBOT TREES!!
OH SHIT...I Found it..
http://blogs.ign.com/Matt-IGN/p37
Five Reasons I Will Buy Too Human
I present to you today five reasons why I will absolutely buy Too Human when it is released on Xbox 360 later this year
LOL this was written in April of 2006!!!
1. Trees Made Out of Electrical Wires
2. Giant Enviroments
3. Dinosaur Bones in Water
4. Menacing Evil Guys
5. Forest That I want to Live in.
I think this may be the worst thing written on IGN...it's stuck with me for all these years.
http://blogs.ign.com/Matt-IGN/p37
Five Reasons I Will Buy Too Human
I present to you today five reasons why I will absolutely buy Too Human when it is released on Xbox 360 later this year
LOL this was written in April of 2006!!!
1. Trees Made Out of Electrical Wires
2. Giant Enviroments
3. Dinosaur Bones in Water
4. Menacing Evil Guys
5. Forest That I want to Live in.
I think this may be the worst thing written on IGN...it's stuck with me for all these years.
rhino4evr said:
Probably, because I don't think most people get excited about stuff because of.... IGN of all places.
I was a huge fan of SK because of Dark Legions, Legacy of Kain and Eternal Darkness. Twin Snakes was a pretty lazy-ass port-up and Too Human is just hilarious. Can't say I'm a fan anymore, especially not after all the drama that Dyack intentionally brought here while trying to drum up hype for his underwhelming game.
In last weekend's Globe & Mail there was a FULL PAGE head shot of Dennis Dyack (literally the entire page) split with a character face from Too Human. It was an advertisement for Brock University.
Edit: found it (obviously it was much, much bigger in the advertisement).
Edit: found it (obviously it was much, much bigger in the advertisement).
rhino4evr said:
It's funny though, because Too Human as it was originally conceived, is such a fucking appealing concept to me. Too bad they dropped that and went in the direction of a mediocre Cyber-Norse "trilogy" action RPG which turned into a poor poor man's Diablo.
Originally Too Human was announced as a 4 CD PS1 adventure game set in a Blade Runner-ish futuristic city. You would play the role of a special agent doing missions and stuff in third person ala MGS, while the main character would narrate monologues as you played similar to Legacy of Kain. The idea for "Too Human" as a title came from how the main character would have the option of adding cybernetic implants to aid his abilities throughout the game, and in the process while making the game easier he would lose parts of his humanity. Sad that they never got to complete and release that game.
EatChildren
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Eh, fuck the haters. Twin Snakes was more than worth the price of admission besides its flaws, and Eternal Darkness was fantastic. Two out of three is more than enough for me to want to see what they have next, especially since Too Human wasn't the "OMGZ WORST GAME EVA!" bullshit anti-hype that GAF loves to conjure.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
legend166 said:
like playing chess
i mean, where's the action?
U K Narayan said:
Actually, not true.
First of all, the new cutscenes were over the top, laughably bad, shit.
Secondly, the new cutscenes were something that Kojima wanted to put into the remake. The original set of cutscenes were pretty much like the original set, but Kojima wanted something different (bad).
Eternal Darkness really should get top billing whenever Silicon Knights is mentioned. And Too Human is one of the few games that I will label as utter shit... probably because unlike other games that are shit, this one has had 10 years of development time and is pretentious as hell.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
legend166 said:
:lol
this retort was so perfect i'm not going to argue with you. well played.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
rhino4evr said:
Matt was a huge mark for SK and Too Human, but that article is clearly tongue-in-cheek.
Xenon
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I don't think we'll hear anything from SK. If the did manage to get a company to help fund their next game I'm sure a gag order was written into the agreement.
This was still being used as a selling point for Too Human 360. The problem lies in that this deep concept was nothing more than a simple menu with a one time choice of Human or Cyber path in the game. It had no impact on the story, for the first game at least. The only difference was the alignment tree. Had they actually touched upon this more in TH people might actually have cared for Baldr.
duckroll said:It's funny though, because Too Human as it was originally conceived, is such a fucking appealing concept to me. Too bad they dropped that and went in the direction of a mediocre Cyber-Norse "trilogy" action RPG which turned into a poor poor man's Diablo.
Originally Too Human was announced as a 4 CD PS1 adventure game set in a Blade Runner-ish futuristic city. You would play the role of a special agent doing missions and stuff in third person ala MGS, while the main character would narrate monologues as you played similar to Legacy of Kain. The idea for "Too Human" as a title came from how the main character would have the option of adding cybernetic implants to aid his abilities throughout the game, and in the process while making the game easier he would lose parts of his humanity. Sad that they never got to complete and release that game.
This was still being used as a selling point for Too Human 360. The problem lies in that this deep concept was nothing more than a simple menu with a one time choice of Human or Cyber path in the game. It had no impact on the story, for the first game at least. The only difference was the alignment tree. Had they actually touched upon this more in TH people might actually have cared for Baldr.
By that you mean a company that Nintendo took from obscurity, made great, and then which left Nintendo to create HD games that were more ambitious than they were capable of developing, and now are potentially not in business any longer?nightez said:
I loved the games these companies made last gen, and I was disappointed to see them fail to deliver the same quality on the HD systems. I hope that SK doesn't go the way of F5, and I similarly hope that F5 actually has some development capabilities left.
Nintendo: These companies are/were a big lure for core gamers. Your 2nd party strategy was a good idea in the N64/GC eras, and it's THE answer to your problem attracting core gamers!
element
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I can confirm that Henry Sterchi ( Director of Design at SK) left and landed at Microsoft.Sean said:
As far as the Sega project, I'm sure it is canned. It has gone way too long, Sega hasn't said a word about it, and Sega isn't in the greatest of shapes with outside development (Aliens games...)