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Any wireless 360 users?

TigerKnee

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So the only way for me to get wireless is through the $99 adapter? I can't get any other kind?

RIP OFF!

I have no choice ;_;

How is the connection? Any drops?

Thanks in advanced!
 
You can use any wireless bridge you want.

Currently, I have 2 WAPs. One upstairs in my computer room and one in the basement with the 360. The one in the basement is connected to a hub, and the 360 is connected to that. You aren't restricted to using the MS hardware.
 
Dr_Cogent said:
You can use any wireless bridge you want.

Currently, I have 2 WAPs. One upstairs in my computer room and one in the basement with the 360. The one in the basement is connected to a hub, and the 360 is connected to that. You aren't restricted to using the MS hardware.

Can you provide me with a link of one that you prefer?
 
DenogginizerOS said:
D-Link Gamefuel Router and Wireless Gaming Adapter with Gamefuel.

So you're telling me to buy two things? Won't that be just as much as getting an MS wireless adapter?
 
TigerKnee said:
So you're telling me to buy two things? Won't that be just as much as getting an MS wireless adapter?

If you already have a wireless router, yes it will be more expensive.
 
I am assuming you already have a wireless router or WAP somewhere. Basically, it doesn't matter which bridge you get, as long as its compatible with your existing router/wap. If your WAP is 802.11g, get an 802.11g bridge.

How about you give me a little more information on what your network config looks like. What WAP/router do you currently own?

Please give me model numbers.
 
Dr_Cogent said:
I am assuming you already have a wireless router or WAP somewhere. Basically, it doesn't matter which bridge you get, as long as its compatible with your existing router/wap. If your WAP is 802.11g, get an 802.11g bridge.

How about you give me a little more information on what your network config looks like. What WAP/router do you currently own?

Please give me model numbers.

I have a Linksys WRT54G 4-port Wireless Router.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833124010
 
I highly recommend that Linksys game adapter. I've had mine for about 4 months now and I've never had any problems with it. It works so good that when I switched over to my 360 there was absolutely nothing I had to change. I just plugged it in and it worked.
 
Don't forget wireless users! Secure your network! Don't leave it wide open for your neighbors or passers by to hop on and steal your bandwidth!!!
 
I just recently went wireless with my new basement setup. So far so good. No problems or drops.

Then again, my wireless router is sitting about 10 feet away from the 360. :lol


I've also got the WRT54G Linksys model router and it's great. I even get a perfect signal on my lap top 2 floors up from the router which is located in my basement.
 
Tigerriot said:
I just recently went wireless with my new basement setup. So far so good. No problems or drops.

Then again, my wireless router is sitting about 10 feet away from the 360. :lol

So why go wireless? You plan to move the 360?
 
Dr_Cogent said:
So why go wireless? You plan to move the 360?



I am such a cord freak that I just didn't want to have a cord visible from my router to my 360. I literally do everything I can to avoid cords from being seen. I'm a bit of a perfectionist like that. :/


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The router is located in the far right in this picture. Underneath the cabinet you see in the corner.
 
TigerKnee said:
That's probably what I'll get then.

Thanks for your help bud.

No problemo. Glad to be of service.

Tigerriot said:
I am such a cord freak that I just didn't want to have a cord visible from my router to my 360. I literally do everything I can to avoid cords from being seen. I'm a bit of a perfectionist like that. :/


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The router is located in the far right in this picture. Underneath the cabinet you see in the corner.

Totally cool. I can understand that.

I also would like to point out, be careful what other wireless products you buy with a wireless network. For instance, I would suggest you buy a cordless phone on a different frequency than 2.4 GHz because they have been known to interfere with wireless networks (since they are on the same frequency). Apparently this isn't always the case though, because the wireless controllers for the 360 are indeed 2.4 GHz.

My cousins have a problem with their wireless network everytime the phone rings though, it cuts them off completely. :lol
 
Dr_Cogent said:
My cousins have a problem with their wireless network everytime the phone rings though, it cuts them off completely. :lol

I hate when that shit happens. It's only when the phone is close to my laptop though :lol
 
Dr_Cogent said:
No problemo. Glad to be of service.



Totally cool. I can understand that.

I also would like to point out, be careful what other wireless products you buy with a wireless network. For instance, I would suggest you buy a cordless phone on a different frequency than 2.4 GHz because they have been known to interfere with wireless networks (since they are on the same frequency). Apparently this isn't always the case though, because the wireless controllers for the 360 are indeed 2.4 GHz.

My cousins have a problem with their wireless network everytime the phone rings though, it cuts them off completely. :lol



I don't even have a cordless phone in my house. Me and the wife each have a cell phone. I also figured that locating the wireless router in the basement would actually insolate it to some degree from outside interference. So, i'm sure my 360 connection is gonna be rock solid all the time. I'm not as concerned about the laptap which roams all over the house.
 
I appreciate the advice since Im likely going the same route pretty quickly. I stopped renting out my upstairs room and want to turn it into an office with my PC.. but dont want a wire running from my bedroom to my loft. The shame is I actually pulled a Cat 6 cord through my wall for my 360.. but it wound up taking me nearly an entire day to do... and I wasnt even changing floors, so I dont think I'll be doing that again.

My uncle the electrician who knows what he is doing refuses to drive the 20 minutes to my house to help me with it :( GRRR.
 
StoOgE said:
The shame is I actually pulled a Cat 6 cord through my wall for my 360.. but it wound up taking me nearly an entire day to do... and I wasnt even changing floors, so I dont think I'll be doing that again.



Wow. The things people will go through to avoid going wireless. :lol
 
Tigerriot said:
Wow. The things people will go through to avoid going wireless. :lol

To be fair I didnt know it would take an entire day, my uncle described it as an easy process.. plus, I live in a PUD, so there are alot of townhomes all very near to each other, so Ive allways been worried about interference.
 
StoOgE said:
To be fair I didnt know it would take an entire day, my uncle described it as an easy process.. plus, I live in a PUD, so there are alot of townhomes all very near to each other, so Ive allways been worried about interference.



Forgive my ignorrance. What is a PUD? I live in a townhouse too. :)
 
Dr_Cogent said:
I also would like to point out, be careful what other wireless products you buy with a wireless network. For instance, I would suggest you buy a cordless phone on a different frequency than 2.4 GHz because they have been known to interfere with wireless networks (since they are on the same frequency). Apparently this isn't always the case though, because the wireless controllers for the 360 are indeed 2.4 GHz.

My cousins have a problem with their wireless network everytime the phone rings though, it cuts them off completely. :lol

2.4Ghz is used for a ton of wireless crap... on a phone system, you should have the ability to change the channel it uses. 2.4Ghz really refers to a band of signals. When you change a channel, it changes the frequency by a little bit. IIRC, MS used the upper side of the band for the controllers and then made a proprietary protocol so interference is minimal. That's why the range is shorter (30') compared to other wireless devices, but you have better stability. Wireless routers, microwaves, and phone systems are all competing for the middle of that band. The middle provides the best attenuation for antennas and 2.4Ghz is the resonant frequency of water... which is how a microwave cooks food.

Tell your cousin to change the channel on the phone and don't put a microwave in the path between your 360 and your router.
 
Tigerriot said:
Forgive my ignorrance. What is a PUD? I live in a townhouse too. :)

Planned Unit Development. Its similar to a HOA, but its still controlled by the developer instead of the owners. Ours is this way because the townhomes are visible from the 10th fairway of the golfcourse and the developer wants to make sure we dont get together and decide to paint our houses hot pink. Also, they can force us to pay club membership dues and marina dues even if you dont use either of them, ever (me).
 
jedimike said:
2.4Ghz is used for a ton of wireless crap... on a phone system, you should have the ability to change the channel it uses. 2.4Ghz really refers to a band of signals. When you change a channel, it changes the frequency by a little bit. IIRC, MS used the upper side of the band for the controllers and then made a proprietary protocol so interference is minimal. That's why the range is shorter (30') compared to other wireless devices, but you have better stability. Wireless routers, microwaves, and phone systems are all competing for the middle of that band. The middle provides the best attenuation for antennas and 2.4Ghz is the resonant frequency of water... which is how a microwave cooks food.

So basically... change the channel on the phone and don't put a microwave in the path between your 360 and your router.



Wow, I didn't realize you were still alive.


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jedimike said:
2.4Ghz is used for a ton of wireless crap... on a phone system, you should have the ability to change the channel it uses. 2.4Ghz really refers to a band of signals. When you change a channel, it changes the frequency by a little bit. IIRC, MS used the upper side of the band for the controllers and then made a proprietary protocol so interference is minimal. That's why the range is shorter (30') compared to other wireless devices, but you have better stability. Wireless routers, microwaves, and phone systems are all competing for the middle of that band. The middle provides the best attenuation for antennas and 2.4Ghz is the resonant frequency of water... which is how a microwave cooks food.

Tell your cousin to change the channel on the phone and don't put a microwave in the path between your 360 and your router.

Already knew all that jedimike.

I've already told them to do such a thing. It's much easier to just not even bother and try to buy products that work on a completely different frequency since it's a lot easier to deal with.
 
I'm planning on getting the Microsoft wireless adapter with my 360.

It's not that much more expensive than the Linksys Game adapter (here in the UK at least - both are about ÂŁ55), and it's easier to use. It doesn't need a power supply, and should be easier to move around with my 360. The 360 is the only thing in my house that doesn't have wireless as standard, and the Rev and PS3 are wireless as standard too.
 
Dr_Cogent said:
Already knew all that jedimike.

I've already told them to do such a thing. It's much easier to just not even bother and try to buy products that work on a completely different frequency since it's a lot easier to deal with.


I agree... I actually had to use my old 900Mhz phone because my 2.4Ghz phone is a piece of shit and only had 3 channels, none of which was completely interference free. I wasn't trying to be condensending... I know you know what your talking about. I was just trying to fill in some blanks for others reading.
 
jedimike said:
I agree... I actually had to use my old 900Mhz phone because my 2.4Ghz phone is a piece of shit and only had 3 channels, none of which was completely interference free. I wasn't trying to be condensending... I know you know what your talking about. I was just trying to fill in some blanks for others reading.

Thats cool. BTW, we bought this phone for home and I friggin love it. There is another model with just one phone and another with 3. Actually, we have the one with 3 phones. Still the same technology though.

I highly recommend Panasonic phones. At least the ones I have experienced, they have always been good to me.
 
Dr_Cogent said:
Don't forget wireless users! Secure your network! Don't leave it wide open for your neighbors or passers by to hop on and steal your bandwidth!!!

I went wireless when I bought the X-Box 360... I also hated a wire going 8 feet to the old router. Neat freak!

I bought the Microsoft X-Box 360 adapter because I also didn't want an additional power cord.

I bought the Linksys WRT54GS router... my PC is hard wired to it and the X-Box 360 is the olny thing using the wireless signal...

How do I set it up to only allow internet access from the PC and X-Box 360?

Thanks!
 
Im a wireless user. But it looses contact with the router alot which is abit annoying.
I just connect it up with a wire when Im downloading huge files.
 
Those that have problems with cordless phones need to go into their router setups and change the broadcast channel. I know that Linksys ships on the default channel of 6. I'm not sure about other manufacturer's. I had problems with my phones until I played around with the different broadcast channels in the router setup. Mine is now on channel 11 and I don't have any problems with the phones. The only problem I have now is that the microwave causes interference no matter which channel I've got it on. My wife is not allowed to make popcorn while I'm playing an online game.
 
BojTrek said:
How do I set it up to only allow internet access from the PC and X-Box 360?

Thanks!
Well, I'm not sure exactly the steps with your particular router/setup. But for me I would enable WAP, MAC filter to only allow your PC and XBOX hardware on the router, and then I would not brodcast the SSID.

I know in my apartment building at times I can see about 4 maybe 5 routers in range that are still brodcasting and unsecure.

Remember these setups are "never" 100% secure but you should be able to keep 100% of the people that aren't intersted in breaking in, from taking your bandwidth.

Sorry that wasn't much help.

DAVEW49
 
Davew49 said:
Well, I'm not sure exactly the steps with your particular router/setup. But for me I would enable WAP, MAC filter to only allow your PC and XBOX hardware on the router, and then I would not brodcast the SSID.

I know in my apartment building at times I can see about 4 maybe 5 routers in range that are still brodcasting and unsecure.

Remember these setups are "never" 100% secure but you should be able to keep 100% of the people that aren't intersted in breaking in, from taking your bandwidth.

Sorry that wasn't much help.

DAVEW49

Has WPA been broken? I know WEP has been, but I'm not sure about WPA.
 
BojTrek said:
I went wireless when I bought the X-Box 360... I also hated a wire going 8 feet to the old router. Neat freak!

I bought the Microsoft X-Box 360 adapter because I also didn't want an additional power cord.

I bought the Linksys WRT54GS router... my PC is hard wired to it and the X-Box 360 is the olny thing using the wireless signal...

How do I set it up to only allow internet access from the PC and X-Box 360?

Thanks!

They both should be able to access the internet at the same time. They can't right now?
 
No... both are working fine at the same time... I just do not want neighbors to have access to my band-width...

I really doubt anyone could... but you never know...

Can you tell the router, only accept requests from X-Box 360 and my PC and reject all others unless I say yes?
 
I had a similar problem when I realized that all I had was wireless access in my bedroom, as I live in a house over 100 years old and there's literally no way to get the ethernet cable to my room short of running a hundred feet of it up along the stairs. So I had to set up a network bridge without spending any more money on retarded cash-in devices. All I needed was an old (wired) router.

Stuff:
-Wireless network
-iBook
-HDTV
-A few game consoles with broadband adapters.
-Cheap extra router (wireless or not)

What I did:
-Set up Internet sharing from the iBook's wireless connection to the ethernet port, and use that as the router's uplink.
-Connect game consoles to the router
-Have all four devices online simultaneously, leeching bandwidth from the iBook's connection

I thought it'd be laggy as fuck, but the truth is that even when the iBook's CPU is 90% locked up, it can still route more quickly than a $30 can.
 
BojTrek said:
No... both are working fine at the same time... I just do not want neighbors to have access to my band-width...

I really doubt anyone could... but you never know...

Can you tell the router, only accept requests from X-Box 360 and my PC and reject all others unless I say yes?

I do the following to secure my network.

I don't broadcast my SSID
I use MAC filtering
I have WEP enabled (I don't have WAP available on my old 802.11b hardware)

That should be good enough to keep casual scammers out.
 
Just out of curiosity, how many things can that 4-port wireless router from Linksys support?

I have my CPU hardwired to it, but its conceivable that I could be running four things wirelessly at the same time (360, laptop, DS, Tivo). So, that's 5 things running off that one router.
 
siamesedreamer said:
Just out of curiosity, how many things can that 4-port wireless router from Linksys support?

I have my CPU hardwired to it, but its conceivable that I could be running four things wirelessly at the same time (360, laptop, DS, Tivo). So, that's 5 things running off that one router.

I don't know what the physical limitation of wireless devices is, but the more you add to it, the slower it will run for all involved.

Also, the moment you introduce a 802.11b device to a 802.11g network, everything is pulled down to 11mbits. There may be certain hardware that gets around this limitation, but I can't remember what it is at the moment if it exists.
 
TigerKnee said:
So the only way for me to get wireless is through the $99 adapter? I can't get any other kind?

RIP OFF!

I have no choice ;_;

How is the connection? Any drops?

Thanks in advanced!
i got the adapter for 8000Y in japan.. works great :D
 
Dr_Cogent said:
I don't know what the physical limitation of wireless devices is, but the more you add to it, the slower it will run for all involved.

Also, the moment you introduce a 802.11b device to a 802.11g network, everything is pulled down to 11mbits. There may be certain hardware that gets around this limitation, but I can't remember what it is at the moment if it exists.

OK, so they all share bandwidth in the same way bandwidth is shared by high speed cable internet users.

So, are you saying that the DS uses 802.11b? I know everything else in my network is 802.11g.
 
siamesedreamer said:
OK, so they all share bandwidth in the same way bandwidth is shared by high speed cable internet users.

So, are you saying that the DS uses 802.11b? I know everything else in my network is 802.11g.

Oh, I have no idea what the DS uses. But if it is 802.11b, once it's logged on to the network - it drags the whole network down to its level.

I was just stating a general fact for 802.11g wireless networks is all.
 
Dr_Cogent said:
Oh, I have no idea what the DS uses. But if it is 802.11b, once it's logged on to the network - it drags the whole network down to its level.

I was just stating a general fact for 802.11g wireless networks is all.

Doesn't this defeat the purpose of mixed mode b/g or are you just making stuff up? :p

PS: DS is 802.11b
 
Personally, i'd go with the wireless adaptor from MS. Bascially i hate extra AC adaptors as much as i hate wires running through the unit. So the fact that it is powered by the 360 is a real plus for me.
teamxbox reviewed it as well and pretty much said it was as good as anything else out there.
 
siamesedreamer said:
Well, I guess my router is B and G then......

Heheheh. Of course it is. I believe the G spec specifically includes support for B ;)

Spencerr said:
Doesn't this defeat the purpose of mixed mode b/g or are you just making stuff up? :p

PS: DS is 802.11b

No, I am not making this stuff up. The 802.11b device pulls the network down in bandwidth once it joins the mix. That's just the way it is. There may be hardware that gets around this limitation somehow, but I am not familiar with it. In general though, what I said is true.
 
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